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1. 05:26 PM - Performance take off and landings. (SIDESLIP)
2. 06:08 PM - Re: Performance take off and landings. (Paul Mulwitz)
3. 07:03 PM - Re: Performance take off and landings. (SIDESLIP)
4. 07:44 PM - Re: Re: Performance take off and landings. (Paul Mulwitz)
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| Subject: | Performance take off and landings. |
Anyone on here with a Rotax powered 601XL-B? What is the shortest runway you've
used, and how did it work out? Grass of course. I want to attempt a 1800' runway
with 75' obstacles at Either end. I KNOW i CAN land, but th take off has me
concerned.
Feedback?
Thanks!
Chad
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C-GYXQ. 912ULS. 601XL-B
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| Subject: | Re: Performance take off and landings. |
Hi Chad,
I was thinking of just saying "Don't worry", but I decided that was an
irresponsible answer to your question.
A better answer is to suggest you take a look at the FAA manual on
flight test - AC90-89A. It has lots of information you need for flying
your new experimental airplane. One of the first things it covers is
the runway requirements based on specifics of your plane design.
Good luck,
Paul
Camas, WA
Zodiac XL - signed out of phase I last year.
On 8/15/2013 5:24 PM, SIDESLIP wrote:
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> Anyone on here with a Rotax powered 601XL-B? What is the shortest runway you've
used, and how did it work out? Grass of course. I want to attempt a 1800' runway
with 75' obstacles at Either end. I KNOW i CAN land, but th take off has
me concerned.
>
> Feedback?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chad
>
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> C-GYXQ. 912ULS. 601XL-B
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406813#406813
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Performance take off and landings. |
Paul;
Thanks for the reply. It's not the first flight. I've got 30 plus hours on type,
some on grass and some on long paved runways. A friend of mine has a 1800' strip
I want to go into on the weekend. I know I can get it in, just not sure if
I can "get it up"..... Lol.
I'm going to try to head to a grass field that is 2200' long and try some short/soft
field stuff there. See what the best I can get out of it with full fuel
would be. I find that the traditional back elevator on the roll slows it down,
from induced drag. If I lower the nose on the roll, it accelerates better. Ill
test and report back. I want to know 110% for CERTAIN I can get back out safely.
That's all.
Chad
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C-GYXQ. 912ULS. 601XL-B
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| Subject: | Re: Performance take off and landings. |
Hi Chad,
I have a Jabiru 3300, so I have considerably more power than your
Rotax. Still, my Zodiac gets airborne very quickly. I've never
measured the actual ground roll, but i would guess it is 300 or 400 feet.
I use 1/2 flaps for takeoff as a normal routine. That gets the plane
airborne quickly without getting it flying before the controls work well
- the result if I take off with full flaps. The Zodiac will take off
with no flaps but requires considerably more runway in that configuration.
Your 1800 foot runway should be enough to take off and land a couple of
times before reaching the end. That assumes the grass is dry. If it is
wet I would worry about the take off distance.
Good luck,
Paul
On 8/15/2013 7:02 PM, SIDESLIP wrote:
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> Paul;
>
> Thanks for the reply. It's not the first flight. I've got 30 plus hours on type,
some on grass and some on long paved runways. A friend of mine has a 1800'
strip I want to go into on the weekend. I know I can get it in, just not sure
if I can "get it up"..... Lol.
>
> I'm going to try to head to a grass field that is 2200' long and try some short/soft
field stuff there. See what the best I can get out of it with full fuel
would be. I find that the traditional back elevator on the roll slows it down,
from induced drag. If I lower the nose on the roll, it accelerates better.
Ill test and report back. I want to know 110% for CERTAIN I can get back out safely.
That's all.
>
> Chad
>
> --------
> C-GYXQ. 912ULS. 601XL-B
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406823#406823
>
>
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