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| Subject: | Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 10/02/13 |
I see more traffic on www. zenith.aero/group/ch601
- Rich
On Oct 3, 2013, at 2:01 AM, Zenith601-List Digest Server <zenith601-list@matronics.com>
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> 1. 09:37 AM - Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/01/13 (pms)
> 2. 09:54 AM - Re: Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/01/13 (Carlos Sa)
> 3. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/01/13 ()
> 4. 04:39 PM - Re: Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/01/13 (Carlos Sa)
> 5. 06:59 PM - Climb question.... URGENT. HOPING FOR ANSWER BY 1200 Zulu!
(SIDESLIP)
> 6. 07:18 PM - Re: Climb question.... URGENT. HOPING FOR ANSWER BY 1200 Zulu!
(Paul Mulwitz)
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> Time: 09:37:24 AM PST US
> From: pms <ps24244@charter.net>
> Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/01/13
>
>
> I for one do not know who to reply to - how to reply using any of the
> links listed below. It is no wonder that there are not messages. Day
> after day I get an email saying 'o' message. I am not interested in
> reading the lengthy message below with all it's instruction [s]. I was
> looking for a forum to share 601 / Subaru info. I MIGHT poke around a
> little more to see if I can make head or tail out of this - - but I
> think it is way confusing. pete I don't even know if this is going
> to get tru to anyone.
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>> Time: 11:08:43 PM PST US
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>> Subject: Zenith601-List: Official Zenith601-List Usage Guidelines
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> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:54:32 AM PST US
> From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/01/13
>
> Yes, it is going through
>
> Given that the traffic on the Zenith lists is very light these days, I
> suggest you change your subscription to regular email.
> The digest is good when there's a lot of traffic.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Carlos
> CH601-HD, plans
>
>
> On 2 October 2013 12:36, pms <ps24244@charter.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I for one do not know who to reply to - how to reply using any of the
>> links listed below. It is no wonder that there are not messages. Day after
>> day I get an email saying 'o' message. I am not interested in reading the
>> lengthy message below with all it's instruction [s]. I was looking for a
>> forum to share 601 / Subaru info. I MIGHT poke around a little more to
>> see if I can make head or tail out of this - - but I think it is way
>> confusing. pete I don't even know if this is going to get tru to anyone.
>>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:33:09 PM PST US
> From: <paulrod36@msn.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/01/13
>
> I have also noticed the traffic seemed to be very light. Everybody got
> it built already?
>
> Paul R
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carlos Sa<mailto:carlossa52@gmail.com>
> To: zenith601-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith601-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs -
> 10/01/13
>
>
> Yes, it is going through
>
>
> Given that the traffic on the Zenith lists is very light these days, I
> suggest you change your subscription to regular email.
>
> The digest is good when there's a lot of traffic.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Carlos
>
> CH601-HD, plans
>
>
> On 2 October 2013 12:36, pms
> <ps24244@charter.net<mailto:ps24244@charter.net>> wrote:
>
> <ps24244@charter.net<mailto:ps24244@charter.net>>
>
> I for one do not know who to reply to - how to reply using any of
> the links listed below. It is no wonder that there are not messages.
> Day after day I get an email saying 'o' message. I am not interested in
> reading the lengthy message below with all it's instruction [s]. I was
> looking for a forum to share 601 / Subaru info. I MIGHT poke around a
> little more to see if I can make head or tail out of this - - but I
> think it is way confusing. pete I don't even know if this is going
> to get tru to anyone.
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List<http://www.matronics.co
> m/Navigator?Zenith601-List>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi
> on>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:39:28 PM PST US
> From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/01/13
>
> Almost. Another 5 years or so... ;-)
>
> http://www.zenith.aero/profile/CarlosSa
>
>
> On 2 October 2013 18:32, <paulrod36@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>> I have also noticed the traffic seemed to be very light. Everybody got
>> it built already?
>>
>> Paul R
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com>
>> *To:* zenith601-list@matronics.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:53 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs -
>> 10/01/13
>>
>> Yes, it is going through
>>
>> Given that the traffic on the Zenith lists is very light these days, I
>> suggest you change your subscription to regular email.
>> The digest is good when there's a lot of traffic.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Carlos
>> CH601-HD, plans
>>
>>
>> On 2 October 2013 12:36, pms <ps24244@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I for one do not know who to reply to - how to reply using any of the
>>> links listed below. It is no wonder that there are not messages. Day after
>>> day I get an email saying 'o' message. I am not interested in reading the
>>> lengthy message below with all it's instruction [s]. I was looking for a
>>> forum to share 601 / Subaru info. I MIGHT poke around a little more to
>>> see if I can make head or tail out of this - - but I think it is way
>>> confusing. pete I don't even know if this is going to get tru to anyone.
>>>
>> *
>>
>> title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c*
>>
>> *
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:59:23 PM PST US
> Subject: Zenith601-List: Climb question.... URGENT. HOPING FOR ANSWER BY 1200
Zulu!
> From: "SIDESLIP" <Chad2007@rogers.com>
>
>
> Hello all. Quick question....
>
> I changed the pitch of my prop for a cruise setting, so I lost about 200-300'
min
> doing so at 1100lbs. At 1100lbs, (1300 is gross) I saw 1200-1300'/min at 1100lbs.
> With the pitch change i see between 600-1100'/min depending on the day.
> What impact would adding 200lbs to bring it to gross do you think? My concern
> is whether it will climb or not. It's a ROTAX 912ULS.
>
> IM flying gross tomorrow am from a 4000' runway. I'd LOVE some feedback on this.
> Hope I'm not getting myself in over my head at gross. Guess the only way to
> find out is try.
>
> ALL COMMENTS APPRECIATED!!!!!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chad Scriver
>
> ZODIAC 601XL-B
> Rotax 912ULS
> WARPDDRIVE 3 blade
>
> --------
> C-GYXQ. 912ULS. 601XL-B
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409732#409732
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:18:58 PM PST US
> From: Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net>
> Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Climb question.... URGENT. HOPING FOR ANSWER BY
1200
> Zulu!
>
>
> Hi Chad,
>
> Of course you already know adding weight will reduce your climb rate.
> It will also increase your takeoff roll.
>
> I don't know how much the reduction in climb rate will be. Remember that
> lots of spam cans only climb at a few hundred feet per minute when fully
> loaded.
>
> My only suggestion is that you carefully pick a point on the runway
> where you will abort the takeoff if not yet airborne. This should be
> around half way to the far end of the runway. Once you are airborne you
> can do a similar check while flying the pattern before departing for
> your destination. If you can't make it to pattern altitude before
> getting half way downwind then it might be prudent to land and adjust
> your propeller for more effective climb.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Paul
> Camas, WA
> Zodiac XL, Jab 3300
>
> On 10/2/2013 6:59 PM, SIDESLIP wrote:
>>
>> Hello all. Quick question....
>>
>> I changed the pitch of my prop for a cruise setting, so I lost about 200-300'
> min doing so at 1100lbs. At 1100lbs, (1300 is gross) I saw 1200-1300'/min at
> 1100lbs. With the pitch change i see between 600-1100'/min depending on the day.
> What impact would adding 200lbs to bring it to gross do you think? My concern
> is whether it will climb or not. It's a ROTAX 912ULS.
>>
>> IM flying gross tomorrow am from a 4000' runway. I'd LOVE some feedback on this.
> Hope I'm not getting myself in over my head at gross. Guess the only way to
> find out is try.
>>
>> ALL COMMENTS APPRECIATED!!!!!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Chad Scriver
>>
>> ZODIAC 601XL-B
>> Rotax 912ULS
>> WARPDDRIVE 3 blade
>>
>> --------
>> C-GYXQ. 912ULS. 601XL-B
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409732#409732
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Have never seen such a confusing way to communicate . . . today I see,,
"6 messages" but where are they? How do I read them?
1. 09:37 AM - Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/01/13 (pms)
2. 09:54 AM - Re: Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/01/13 (Carlos Sa)
3. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/01/13 ()
4. 04:39 PM - Re: Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/01/13 (Carlos Sa)
5. 06:59 PM - Climb question.... URGENT. HOPING FOR ANSWER BY 1200 Zulu!
(SIDESLIP)
6. 07:18 PM - Re: Climb question.... URGENT. HOPING FOR ANSWER BY 1200 Zulu!
(Paul Mulwitz)
I click on -
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter
and that goes no where. Says, "*Invalid Request"*
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Zulu!
Update*******
Flew the plane 10lbs under gross. DA was 675'. 17 degrees Celsius.
Climbed at 700-850'/min. Even did some climbs from 3000' and saw almost 1000'/min
up there at 18 degrees. So, all in all, seemed to climb fine at gross. I'm
happy with it.
Chad
--------
C-GYXQ. 912ULS. 601XL-B
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