---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/07/14: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:35 PM - Canopy choice (LNelson) 2. 02:46 PM - Re: Canopy choice (Carlos Sa) 3. 03:43 PM - Re: Canopy choice (Damien Graham) 4. 03:52 PM - Re: Canopy choice (Jeff Davidson) 5. 04:32 PM - Re: Canopy choice (GERALD A. APPLEFELD) 6. 07:02 PM - Re: Canopy choice (Larry McFarland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:35:37 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Canopy choice From: "LNelson" I am in the process of finishing up the fuselage on my HDS. So question of the day, Side Hinge canopy, or convert to the XL front hinge design? How much trouble is the change? Is it worth the additional cost? Any I put is appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419946#419946 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:20 PM PST US From: Carlos Sa Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Canopy choice Hello, I am building an HD with the CH650 canopy. I didn't even consider the side opening canopy: I think it is operation isn't very convenient, and also heard about canopies departing the aircraft. Not cool. I am building from plans, so I don't think it makes much of a difference. But I did buy the canopy kit. If you are interested, search my name in zenith.aero, I posted some pictures there. Carlos On 7 March 2014 17:35, LNelson wrote: > > I am in the process of finishing up the fuselage on my HDS. So question > of the day, Side Hinge canopy, or convert to the XL front hinge design? > > How much trouble is the change? > > Is it worth the additional cost? > > Any I put is appreciated. > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Canopy choice From: Damien Graham I have a 601 HDS that was built in 2000. I bought it in 2009. My HDS has the side opening canopy and it was damaged during the annual last year. It was replaced but it was not a good job so I am going to replace it again and I am also debating whether I should use the side opening, 601XL or the 650. The side opening would be easiest and would not require as much modification. The XL canopy would require mods and the 650 canopy even more mods. For simplicity I am leaning toward the side opening again, with a good, solid locking system. I sat in the 650 at Oshkosh and the headroom was great but it pains me to peel away that much of the fuselage. I am concerned that it would change the look of the plane too much. Regards, Damien N48TK Sent from my iPad > On Mar 7, 2014, at 5:35 PM, "LNelson" wrote: > > > I am in the process of finishing up the fuselage on my HDS. So question of the day, Side Hinge canopy, or convert to the XL front hinge design? > > How much trouble is the change? > > Is it worth the additional cost? > > Any I put is appreciated. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419946#419946 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:52:48 PM PST US From: Jeff Davidson Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Canopy choice It has been a while since I did mine, but I used the XL front hinged canopy on my HD model which is the same fuselage as the HDS. Much better than the side-to-side. I captured the bolts that hold it on physically so that even if the nuts come completely off, the canopy can't fly away by itself. Removing the canopy requires drilling out some rivets. I bought the XL canopy kit from Zenith and, as I remember, the two extra "skins" on either side of the top skin where the canopy hinge rests in the channel when closed. I got the XL canopy plans with the kit to make it easy to see the differences. I do pay close attention to the latching mechanism to make sure that the canopy is closed on both side every time I fly. I did have one side come open early on, but I noticed it in the pattern and simply landed with no problem except the extra wind noise. Jeff Davidson N601T (videos on youtube) do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: LNelson >Sent: Mar 7, 2014 5:35 PM >To: zenith601-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith601-List: Canopy choice > > >I am in the process of finishing up the fuselage on my HDS. So question of the day, Side Hinge canopy, or convert to the XL front hinge design? > >How much trouble is the change? > >Is it worth the additional cost? > >Any I put is appreciated. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419946#419946 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:19 PM PST US From: "GERALD A. APPLEFELD" Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Canopy choice I am one of the people that had the original sise-to-side on my HD AND I had it separate on take-off on the way to Oskhosh. Thankfully my wife and I were OK. I elected to rebuild using the forward hinge from the Zenith kit(I think it was for an HDS or XL). It really didn't take that much work - I had scratch built anyway. I agree with Jeff Davidson, it is worth the effort and not much different in cost. Jerry On 3/7/2014 5:35 PM, LNelson wrote: > > I am in the process of finishing up the fuselage on my HDS. So question of the day, Side Hinge canopy, or convert to the XL front hinge design? > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:04 PM PST US From: "Larry McFarland" Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Canopy choice Hi L Nelson, I'd recommend the forward hinged canopy by far, for safety, ease of use, access to the cockpit, etc. I think the symmetry is also much easier on the plastic, stress wise. I've had the canopy open twice and had no difficulty landing for a re-latch. The side hinged ones, don't have so much survivability. I've a site with a page of pics on the canopy as it was built and installed. (see canopy on the menu) Reference: www.macsmachine.com Go easy, Larry McFarland -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LNelson Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 4:35 PM Subject: Zenith601-List: Canopy choice I am in the process of finishing up the fuselage on my HDS. So question of the day, Side Hinge canopy, or convert to the XL front hinge design? How much trouble is the change? Is it worth the additional cost? Any I put is appreciated. 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