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Tue 06/20/17


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     1. 10:20 AM - Re: Any 601 builders in the Fort Worth, TX AND Austin, TX areas? (Paul Rodriguez)
     2. 12:39 PM - Re: Any 601 builders in the Fort Worth, TX AND Austin, TX areas? (Barry Benson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:20:13 AM PST US
    From: Paul Rodriguez <paulrod36@msn.com>
    Subject: Any 601 builders in the Fort Worth, TX AND Austin,
    TX areas? John, was it me, I=92d sell the 601 kit, it=92s just not intended as a bush plane. I would argue with Mark, however, in that the 601 HAS a building ma nual, which, when I was building a 601, I found to be pretty good. As you got further into it, it assumed you knew stuff that, maybe, you didn=92t kn ow, but it wasn=92t too difficult. On the whole, Zenith does build a pretty simple plane, though, and you migh t want to look at their 701, 750 STOL, and 750 Cruzer. All of those have bu sh capability, in varying degrees. Be aware, though that the 750, in which I=92m now involved, leaves a lot to be desired in the way of instructions. There is no manual per se; (or maybe I just missed it) you get pretty good blueprints, and are referred to videos on their site (some of which are fo r the 701) to figure it out. Most helpful would at least be a suggested lis t of sequential operations. Their customer service is real good, though, an d they will answer any question you have. It=92s just that I really hate d e-riveting something. But, that=92s just part of the game. Call it tuition. What you learn, and t he fun of building and flying it make the journey as much fun as the destin ation. Paul Rodriguez 750 Cruzer Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Window s 10 From: Mark Grieve<mailto:mark@macomb.com> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:39 PM Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Any 601 builders in the Fort Worth, TX AND Aus tin, TX areas? John, Being a quick build, I'm not sure of the status of the spars and wings. Our wings were finished and taking it all apart really set us back. The center section will have to be drilled out and re-riveted. That might mean removing it from the fuselage. Find a buddy that has experience with drilling out and bucking large rivets if you've never done it. There is a learning curve to this riveting business. You'll need a 4x gun and hefty bucking bar. The mod kit came with extra rivets and we used every one! I'm a non-practicing A&P and have been involved in 3 build projects and a restoration. I'm in Illinois so I can't help by showing an example. Mexico, MO is about 100 miles away. The 601 is a neat plane but the build instructions leave a lot to be desired. My suggestion is to build the plane you want to fly. Mark On 06/19/2017 10:05 PM, Bubblehead wrote: > > I am buying a hanger west of Austin, TX. It is an estate sale and includ es an un-started 2008 bought 601XL quickbuild kit with all options. I have read up on the wing and main spar modification. I want to build a plane bu t a bush plane not a 601-type plane, and with the added work of the modific ation it does not make sense to me to build the kit. I would be better off selling the kit and putting the money and my energy into the bush plane I r eally want. > > I currently own and fly an RV-8 that I bought already licensed and flying but want to build the bush plane for retirement planned for 4 years from n ow. > > If there is someone who has built or is building a 601XL I'd like to come see your 601XL to learn more about the kit and modification and to help me decide to either sell the kit or build it. > > Thanks, > > John Dalman 512-850-8339 North Richland Hills, TX > > -------- > John > Keller, TX > RV-8 N247TD > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470252#470252 > >


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    Time: 12:39:31 PM PST US
    From: Barry Benson <benson.barry@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Any 601 builders in the Fort Worth, TX AND Austin,
    TX areas? I have a SLSA 601XLB built by AMD. I have no experience with building, but I can tell you that the 601XLB is an excellent airplane. The mod has corrected the problems with earlier airplanes.The airplane handles well and is well equipped with a parachute, Garmin 430 W, Garmin SL 40, Garmin 340 audio panel, and Tru Trac auto pilot. A King KLR 10 angle of attack system is being installed next week. A fine airplane with everything needed. However, it is not a bush plane. BB On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Paul Rodriguez <paulrod36@msn.com> wrote: > John, was it me, I=99d sell the 601 kit, it=99s just not inte nded as a bush > plane. I would argue with Mark, however, in that the 601 HAS a building > manual, which, when I was building a 601, I found to be pretty good. As > you got further into it, it assumed you knew stuff that, maybe, you didn =99t > know, but it wasn=99t too difficult. > > > On the whole, Zenith does build a pretty simple plane, though, and you > might want to look at their 701, 750 STOL, and 750 Cruzer. All of those > have bush capability, in varying degrees. Be aware, though that the 750, in > which I=99m now involved, leaves a lot to be desired in the way of > instructions. There is no manual per se; (or maybe I just missed it) you > get pretty good blueprints, and are referred to videos on their site (som e > of which are for the 701) to figure it out. Most helpful would at least b e > a suggested list of sequential operations. Their customer service is real > good, though, and they will answer any question you have. It=99s j ust that I > really hate de-riveting something. > > > But, that=99s just part of the game. Call it tuition. What you lear n, and > the fun of building and flying it make the journey as much fun as the > destination. > > > Paul Rodriguez > > 750 Cruzer > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > *From: *Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com> > *Sent: *Monday, June 19, 2017 10:39 PM > *To: *zenith601-list@matronics.com > *Subject: *Re: Zenith601-List: Any 601 builders in the Fort Worth, TX AND > Austin, TX areas? > > > > John, > > Being a quick build, I'm not sure of the status of the spars and wings. > Our wings were finished and taking it all apart really set us back. The > center section will have to be drilled out and re-riveted. That might > mean removing it from the fuselage. Find a buddy that has experience > with drilling out and bucking large rivets if you've never done it. > There is a learning curve to this riveting business. You'll need a 4x > gun and hefty bucking bar. The mod kit came with extra rivets and we > used every one! I'm a non-practicing A&P and have been involved in 3 > build projects and a restoration. > > I'm in Illinois so I can't help by showing an example. Mexico, MO is > about 100 miles away. The 601 is a neat plane but the build > instructions leave a lot to be desired. > > My suggestion is to build the plane you want to fly. > > Mark > > > On 06/19/2017 10:05 PM, Bubblehead wrote: > > > > > I am buying a hanger west of Austin, TX. It is an estate sale and > includes an un-started 2008 bought 601XL quickbuild kit with all options. > I have read up on the wing and main spar modification. I want to build a > plane but a bush plane not a 601-type plane, and with the added work of t he > modification it does not make sense to me to build the kit. I would be > better off selling the kit and putting the money and my energy into the > bush plane I really want. > > > > I currently own and fly an RV-8 that I bought already licensed and > flying but want to build the bush plane for retirement planned for 4 year s > from now. > > > > If there is someone who has built or is building a 601XL I'd like to > come see your 601XL to learn more about the kit and modification and to > help me decide to either sell the kit or build it. > > > > Thanks, > > > > John Dalman 512-850-8339 <(512)%20850-8339> North Richland Hills, TX > > > > -------- > > John > > Keller, TX > > RV-8 N247TD > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470252#470252 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > -List Email Forum - > th601-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith601-List > ========== > p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > ums.matronics.com > ========== > p; - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - > matronics.com > ========== > p; - List Contribution Web Site - > p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > >




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