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1. 07:51 AM - Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/24/17 (Joe)
2. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/24/17 (ashleysc@broadstripe.net)
3. 09:11 PM - Re: Zenith601-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 12/23/17 (Joe)
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| Subject: | RE: Zenith601-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/24/17 |
I would like to also offer my condolences and prayers to the family. It's
hard to comment on these things that happen, especially before the findings
from the NTSB.
But I would like to make one comment. I went on YouTube and looked at the
videos of the plane that are posted and I noticed that in the videos the
plane had no shoulder harnesses. A 45 degree angle as mentioned on this
thread is hard to survive, but in the stories printed on the accident, it
seems the pilot did not immediately pass on impact. Seeing the wings and
tail did not leave the plane, I am just wondering out loud: could shoulder
harnesses have saved his life? For me, after seeing this, I am installing 4
point harnesses in my plane.
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Zenith601-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/24/17 |
Hi Joe;
Hi All;
For whatever it's worth, I removed the three point harness supplied by the kit
manufacturer and installed a four point in my Zodiac 601-XLB.
Cheers! Stu.
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From: "Joe" <backstagelive@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 7:51:11 AM
Subject: Zenith601-List: RE: Zenith601-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/24/17
I would like to also offer my condolences and prayers to the family. It's
hard to comment on these things that happen, especially before the findings
from the NTSB.
But I would like to make one comment. I went on YouTube and looked at the
videos of the plane that are posted and I noticed that in the videos the
plane had no shoulder harnesses. A 45 degree angle as mentioned on this
thread is hard to survive, but in the stories printed on the accident, it
seems the pilot did not immediately pass on impact. Seeing the wings and
tail did not leave the plane, I am just wondering out loud: could shoulder
harnesses have saved his life? For me, after seeing this, I am installing 4
point harnesses in my plane.
Joe
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| Subject: | RE: Zenith601-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 12/23/17 |
Merry Christmas fellow builders!
Another builder and I are having a discussion about restraints for a
601-650. When I open videos sometimes i see pilots wearing just seat belts,
other times I see them wearing shoulder harnesses as well.
I am not an engineer, and I don't possess the skills of a designer, but I
have owned a wrecker service, and I have seen pictures of wrecked aircraft
that you would think you could walk away from, yet sometimes pilots aren't
that lucky. I know there are many forces at work including the G forces when
you hit the ground, yet engineers tell us that many of these accidents are
very survivable depending on what angle you hit the ground and the
deceleration force.
Here are some questions we would like to discuss.
How many of you just use the seat belt with no other restraints?
How many of you use a 4 point restraint and if you do, would you recommend
it to other builders?
Is there anyone using a 5 point restraint and if you are, where and how are
you attaching it to your spar?
Any help you can give would be most appreciated.
Joe in Oshkosh (and another fellow builder)
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