---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith640-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/21/09: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:30 AM - Re: Wing question (FlyGuyTililDie) 2. 02:57 AM - Re: new member, new project? (FlyGuyTililDie) 3. 03:18 AM - Re: new member, new project? (FlyGuyTililDie) 4. 03:28 AM - Anyone considering a Franklin to power their 640? (FlyGuyTililDie) 5. 04:47 AM - Re: Anyone considering a Franklin to power their 640? (pilot4pay) 6. 04:53 AM - Re: Dimensioning Question (pilot4pay) 7. 11:18 AM - Re: Dimensioning Question (Scott Stewart) 8. 08:13 PM - Re: Wing question (Ron Lendon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:30:48 AM PST US Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: Wing question From: "FlyGuyTililDie" Mark, I don't speak from experience yet because I keep ending up in OIF or OEF without having a chance to get started. What I have seen people do is use the metal 2x4s you see at places like Home Depot. This technique is used often in the Homebuilt Help videos. Hope this helps some. James s/n 086 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264085#264085 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:57:23 AM PST US Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: new member, new project? From: "FlyGuyTililDie" Doug, great job. It makes me so happy to start seeing some more 640s come to life. It seems like forever that we've only had the same 3 airframes in the US. (Zenith's N640Z, Jeff Paden's, and Steve Adams') If you need any help coming up with a paint scheme let me know. I enjoy helping people out for free. James s/n 086 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264086#264086 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:29 AM PST US Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: new member, new project? From: "FlyGuyTililDie" These are the 3 schemes I am considering for my project when it is finished... in about 7 years. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264087#264087 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ch_640_blue_white_171.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/ch_640_blue_gray_141.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/ch_640_black_cherry_845.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:28:10 AM PST US Subject: Zenith640-List: Anyone considering a Franklin to power their 640? From: "FlyGuyTililDie" I visited the Franklin booth at Sun-N-Fun last April. It seems they intend to make a come-back in the US and beat the prices of Lycomings and their clones by a significant amount. One of the challenges in building a 640 is that there aren't that many out there. I don't know of anyone who has put anything other than a Lyc on the front of their 640. There are several examples of 801s flying around with different powerplants from LOMs to Fords and Subarus. There are also companies that make the FWF kits for the Franklin on the 801. How different is the 640 firewall from that of the 801? I know Chris Heintz likes to keep as much commonality with his airframes as possible, i.e. the 750 shares the same FWF as the 601/650. Plus, take a look at the cowling used for the Franklin. It is just so much more attractive than the standard 640 cowl with the "blisters" bulging out to accommodate the O-360. Any thoughts? James s/n 086 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264088#264088 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/franklin220_2_513.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/franklin220_airlink_1_905.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:47:28 AM PST US Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: Anyone considering a Franklin to power their 640? From: "pilot4pay" I have been told that the 640 and 801 have identical FWF, with only one significant difference. The 801 has a mount attachment top center firewall that the CH-640 does not have. The purpose is to transfer loads up to the high wing. The thrust line drawing is strangely missing from the 640 plans package. I'm going Mazda 13b p-port rotary conversion. About half the cost of Lycoming. Much higher reliability. Just ordered the fuselage kit. -------- Craig Smith CH640 builder SN: 0078 "Just think how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider!" --George Carlin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264099#264099 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:21 AM PST US Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: Dimensioning Question From: "pilot4pay" You have computer generated plans?????? when did this happen? :o -------- Craig Smith CH640 builder SN: 0078 "Just think how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider!" --George Carlin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264100#264100 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:18:26 AM PST US Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: Dimensioning Question From: "Scott Stewart" Hi Craig, I took delivery of my plans in January 2008. Presumably to change to computer-generated plans happened some time in late 2007, because I don't know if anyone else on this list who has them. BTW, I sent my dimensioning question to the factory. They replied saying they checked their assembly fixture, confirmed that my numbers were correct, and that they have updated the F4 drawing. -------- Scott Stewart s/n: 0092 Building from plans Rudder and Stabilator complete. Wings at 65%. Fuselage at 40%. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264175#264175 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:17 PM PST US Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: Wing question From: "Ron Lendon" I used six 2" x 2" x 60" square steel tubes with wall thickness of about .090 to construct the base on top of my wooden table. You wings are bigger so you might need a couple more. I have some pictures around December 2006 in the Wings section of mykitlog -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Corvair Engine Prints: http://home.comcast.net/~rlendon/site/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264257#264257 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith640-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith640-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith640-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith640-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.