---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith640-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/03/11: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:39 AM - Re: A Newbie from Malaysia (super58d) 2. 08:44 AM - Re: A Newbie from Malaysia (pilot4pay) 3. 09:05 AM - cabin space compaired to early Cherokee 140s (mcjon77) 4. 11:41 AM - Re: Re: A Newbie from Malaysia (Christian Tremblay) 5. 04:44 PM - Re: A Newbie from Malaysia (stevetosh) 6. 06:21 PM - Re: Re: A Newbie from Malaysia (Christian Tremblay) 7. 08:36 PM - Re: A Newbie from Malaysia (stevetosh) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:22 AM PST US Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: A Newbie from Malaysia From: "super58d" Hey Steve Welcome! Building from plans is ambitious! Good luck. I am building from a kit, and am about 80% done with the right wing. I ask for help on the forum all the time and everyone is eager to offer advise and it's good advice too. Look back through the topics and I'll bet some of your questions you might be thinking of have already been asked. The CH-640 plans can be a bit vague and confusing at times. Don't hesitate to ask questions before building something if you are confused. I have had to go back and re-do several things because I didn't fully understand what the plans were telling me to do until AFTER I had already done it. See you around the forum, good luck! Mark -------- Mark s/n 094 My Build Site: http://www.mykitlog.com/stephen363/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335920#335920 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:17 AM PST US Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: A Newbie from Malaysia From: "pilot4pay" Welcome Steve! There was a fellow, Christian Trembly I believe, who was building from plans, but he has since abandoned his project in favor of a certified aircraft. I am building from a kit, and between Mark and myself, I think we are about the only two active 640 builders on here. There are a few others who have already completed their aircraft, who will pop in from time to time and help with questions though. There are some claims of errors in the drawings, as respect to some parts, so study the plans carefully. They can be a bit vague at times. We rarely get input here from Zenair. I think they have lost interest in the 640. Their big market effort now is in LSA and the models made in Missouri. Best of luck to you, we'll help when we can. I Still think the 640 is the most economical and easy to build for it's load class, although maybe not the fastest. -------- Craig Smith CH640 builder SN: 0078 "Just think how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider!" --George Carlin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335943#335943 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:05:06 AM PST US Subject: Zenith640-List: cabin space compaired to early Cherokee 140s From: "mcjon77" Hi guys, Having never seen a CH640 in person, I am trying to get an idea of how big the cabin is. The other 2+2 I am familiar with are the Piper Cherokee 140s. How would you compare the room in both the front and rear seats of the CH640 with the Cherokee 140? Thanks guys, Jon -------- Jon McDonald Building Sonex #1287 Next up CH 701 :D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335949#335949 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:41:04 AM PST US From: Christian Tremblay Subject: RE: Zenith640-List: Re: A Newbie from Malaysia Hello Steve and gang, Welcome Steve, to the group, if building from plan it's more chanlenging, it give you full control, and at any phases, you can buy any completed components from zenith. Rudder, Tail wing, Left wing completed at 100%. Right wing at 50% (wing spar, aileron and flap completed 100%) With extended tank buyed from Zenith. The projet is still on hold, because I buyed last year an Beechcraft B24R. I'am searching for a partner to complete the projet or for buy it as is. Question of curiosity, do you have facilities stores to buy pieces like Aircraft Spruce in USA and CND ? Good luck Christian T. -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith640-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith640-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilot4pay Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:42 Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: A Newbie from Malaysia Welcome Steve! There was a fellow, Christian Trembly I believe, who was building from plans, but he has since abandoned his project in favor of a certified aircraft. I am building from a kit, and between Mark and myself, I think we are about the only two active 640 builders on here. There are a few others who have already completed their aircraft, who will pop in from time to time and help with questions though. There are some claims of errors in the drawings, as respect to some parts, so study the plans carefully. They can be a bit vague at times. We rarely get input here from Zenair. I think they have lost interest in the 640. Their big market effort now is in LSA and the models made in Missouri. Best of luck to you, we'll help when we can. I Still think the 640 is the most economical and easy to build for it's load class, although maybe not the fastest. -------- Craig Smith CH640 builder SN: 0078 "Just think how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider!" --George Carlin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335943#335943 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:00 PM PST US Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: A Newbie from Malaysia From: "stevetosh" Thank you guys for the warm welcome, I do appreciate it alot and am happy to be part of the group. Well why am considering to build from plan is I totally want to know in details of building and in full control as Christian have said, moreover I would like to buy sub-kits from Zenair, but they never reply my mail once to know the shipping cost to Malaysia or perhaps i haven't buy plans from them yet that's why Christian am very happy with the questions you ask me about getting materials from a company like aircraft spruce, this is why am here for you friends to help me out by mentioning the core materials i will need and i can search it locally, though aircraft spruce have a representative here but i think they are more into composite. So please what are the core materials I will need to build from Plans. Thanks you all once again for the warm welcome and contribution. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335998#335998 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:14 PM PST US From: Christian Tremblay Subject: RE: Zenith640-List: Re: A Newbie from Malaysia I Steve, Like said Craig, Zenith don't realy support CH640 builders, may be, because in the 4 places market, we don't represent the mass of the builder's kit for Zenith. The 2 places and the LSA is a more lucrative market. Survive is the key in aircraft industries... But, from here in Canada, I ordered some pieces to Zenith, like Extented tank range, and I received all the parts in good condition and in short delay. I think the first step for you is ordered the plan. You will see. And with the plan, and some local expertise, you can build the aircraft alone. Secondo, If I will be at you place, I will try to evaluate support from any aircraft suppliers like Spruce Aircraft. I think the real problem is there, could you have all material that you will need ? To help you, I sent to you an excell file, that I build, in attachment of these email, of all pieces needed to build rudder, tail wing and wings are inventoried. Some of these pieces refers to aircraft ANS part number other refer to Zenith CH640 plans. Took a look, and try to find these materials from your local suppliers. See you Christian T. -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith640-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith640-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of stevetosh Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 19:42 Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: A Newbie from Malaysia Thank you guys for the warm welcome, I do appreciate it alot and am happy to be part of the group. Well why am considering to build from plan is I totally want to know in details of building and in full control as Christian have said, moreover I would like to buy sub-kits from Zenair, but they never reply my mail once to know the shipping cost to Malaysia or perhaps i haven't buy plans from them yet that's why Christian am very happy with the questions you ask me about getting materials from a company like aircraft spruce, this is why am here for you friends to help me out by mentioning the core materials i will need and i can search it locally, though aircraft spruce have a representative here but i think they are more into composite. So please what are the core materials I will need to build from Plans. Thanks you all once again for the warm welcome and contribution. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335998#335998 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:23 PM PST US Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: A Newbie from Malaysia From: "stevetosh" Christian thank you for the attachment i do appreciate it alot, I will try to see if i can get those materials locally or ask Aircraft spruce, but am sure if those materials are available at aircraft spruce it will be no problem for me. But I will like to ask did you order your materials from? Thanks once again for the file you sent to me Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336014#336014 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith640-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith640-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith640-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith640-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.