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1. 09:44 AM - Re: A Newbie from Malaysia (Scott Stewart)
2. 09:48 AM - Opening at Gruenhagen (Joe)
3. 12:18 PM - Re: A Newbie from Malaysia (stevetosh)
4. 02:55 PM - Re: A Newbie from Malaysia (Scott Stewart)
5. 03:16 PM - Re: A Newbie from Malaysia (super58d)
6. 03:44 PM - Re: A Newbie from Malaysia (stevetosh)
7. 03:46 PM - Re: A Newbie from Malaysia (pilot4pay)
8. 08:11 PM - Re: A Newbie from Malaysia (stevetosh)
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
Hi Steve,
Welcome to the list. Besides Christian, I am the only other person building the
CH-640 from plans on this list. I have developed a complete list of parts which
need to be fabricated and a layout plan for cutting the pieces from raw sheet
aluminum. I would be happy to share any of this with you once you decide
to jump into the project. I am over 80% done with the full airframe, so I am
further along than Christian at this point. (Thanks, Christian, for getting
me a really good head start a few years ago with your very detailed web site and
personal correspondence.)
I have found several errors with the set of plans I received in January 2008. I posted a list of these on the Matronics wiki site -- http://www.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/Complete_CH_640_Errata. All of these errors have been confirmed by Zenair, and they have told me they have updated their master files. When you order your plans, you should confirm if the dimensions have been fixed.
It's unfortunate that many people have found Zenair to be unresponsive. That has
not been my experience. Sometimes I have had to send a follow-up email after
not hearing from them for two days, but they always respond promptly after
that. For urgent issues, I have been able to call Mathieu Heintz directly and
talk through any problem. Michael Heintz is a member of my EAA chapter, so I
can also escalate issues through him.
Three years ago, like you, I was a complete newbie. I wasn't sure if I could build
a complete airplane from plans. So I purchased a half sheet of aluminum
and made two sets of wing ribs and two sets of stabilator ribs to practice. This
taught me a lot about the tools and techniques I would need without a big
investment. I recommend that you do something similar to this if you are new
to sheet metal fabrication.
Good luck with your build. The attached picture shows the status of my fuselage
last year. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy
to answer.
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Scott Stewart
s/n: 0092
Building from plans
Rudder and Stabilator complete. Wings at 85%. Fuselage at 70%.
Construction on hold while I help a friend build his RV-9A.
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| Subject: | Opening at Gruenhagen |
I have one room available at Gruenhagen Hall for the Oshkosh EAA convention.
This room is among the rooms reserved for Zenith Aircraft builders and
Enthusiasts. The room is available dur to a cancalation. If you are
intrested, please shoot me an E-mail at backstagelive@gmail.com and please
give me your phone number. I will call you right away and confirm the room.
Thanks.
Joe Scheibinger
"Zeniths to Oshkosh" project
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
Hi Scott,
Nice and very happy to read from you, this is a wonderful job and nice job am hoping
i could do something like this in few years after i started my project.
Not am only a newbie to metal but I never build anything before but I am too sure
I can get it done with you guys in shearing ideas with me.
I am going to order my plans from Zenith soon, as am now seeing a good response
from you guys. I must say you are all my inspirations towards this project as
here in Malaysia no one ever build from ever build any plane from plans before,
so its going to be wonderful mentioning the names of people who give me the
support and inspiration on completing the project.
I must say thank you Guys for the Inspiration. But Scott what are the tools and
going to need as I always wonder which tools are used in forming and shaping
some parts like the ribs and the likes. Could you please tell me so I can start
from there in setting up my workshop.
Thank you.
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
Hi Steve,
Make sure you read through the "getting started" packet at http://www.zenithair.com/kit-data/tools.htm. This shows the basic hand tools and work benches you will need. Also, since you are building from plans, you will need access to a bending brake and shear. I have access to a 1 meter wide shear and brake at my work place, and I have been able to use these to fabricate most of the metal pieces. All of the curved pieces, like wing ribs and bulkheads, are formed by hammering the metal around wood forms. The plans contain detailed dimensions for the forms.
For larger pieces, like the wing leading edge skin, you will need to fabricate
your own tooling jigs. There are many ways to make these, and the internet is
full of suggestions. Again, I would be happy to show you what I did when you
get to that point.
Many of the parts are fabricated from steel which need to be welded. If you don't
have welding experience, you will need to have someone weld them locally or
purchase these parts from Zenair. You will also need to decide whether to have
the aluminum fuel tanks welded locally or purchase them fully complete from
Zenair.
The main things you will need to get this project done are patience and determination.
You will encounter many highs and lows along your journey. Highs when
pieces come together into a beautiful assembly; lows when parts don't fit and
need to be remade. This is all normal, and thousands of builders go through
this same process as they build their dream.
Good luck. Let us know when you start.
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Scott Stewart
s/n: 0092
Building from plans
Rudder and Stabilator complete. Wings at 85%. Fuselage at 80%.
Construction slowed while I help a friend build his RV-9A.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336083#336083
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
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Hey Scott,
I went to your errate page and it said there was no text. Did i do something
wrong?
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Mark
s/n 094
My Build Site:
http://www.mykitlog.com/stephen363/
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
Thank you Scott, I really appreciate it.
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
Here is a link to Zenith construction FAQ: http://www.zenithair.com/images/kit-data/college.html
http://www.zenithair.com/images/kit-data/faq-gen.htm
here is a link to a website with a lot of how tos and scratch build tips.
http://www.ch601.org/
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
A big thanks to you Pilot4play for those links.
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