Zenith701801-List Digest Archive

Wed 04/30/08


Total Messages Posted: 19



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     1. 07:26 AM - 801 Battery/Ballast Box (n85ae)
     2. 07:54 AM - Finally a list that has more STOL that Zodiac (MacDonald Doug)
     3. 08:31 AM - Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Tony Bonsell)
     4. 08:58 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Randall J. Hebert)
     5. 09:10 AM - Re: Finally a list that has more STOL that Zodiac (John Bolding)
     6. 09:38 AM - 701 Nose gear stop (7F8-6) (Stanley Challgren)
     7. 10:44 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Keith Ashcraft)
     8. 10:53 AM - Re: [Probable Spam] 701 Nose gear stop (7F8-6) (LarryMcFarland)
     9. 10:59 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Mark Sherman)
    10. 11:17 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Keith Ashcraft)
    11. 11:25 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Randall J. Hebert)
    12. 11:31 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Mark Sherman)
    13. 11:46 AM - Re: 701 Nose gear stop (7F8-6) (nyterminat@aol.com)
    14. 11:55 AM - Wing Attach Bolts (Phil Owens)
    15. 12:01 PM - Regarding Ballast (Phil Owens)
    16. 12:09 PM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Mark Sherman)
    17. 12:22 PM - Re: Regarding Ballast (n85ae)
    18. 12:30 PM - Re: Regarding Ballast (n85ae)
    19. 01:16 PM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Keith Ashcraft)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:26:22 AM PST US
    Subject: 801 Battery/Ballast Box
    From: "n85ae" <n85ae@yahoo.com>
    Can any builder's with completed 801's tell me if they found a need to add ballast to the tail, or locate the battery aft for balance purposes? I built my Kitfox with a Continental IO-240B and ended up installing a ballast box in the tail, via the battery access panel, which was a real bear of a job. Just getting ready to rivet my fueslage skins on my 801, and trying to decide whether or not to build in a ballast box, or battery mount in the tail. I'll be using a Lycoming O-360 most likely. Regards, Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=180245#180245


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    Time: 07:54:00 AM PST US
    From: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Finally a list that has more STOL that Zodiac
    Hey guys, I suppose I'm a little slow catch up but finally got around to joining the new STOL list. I checked the seven day archive online and see a bunch of familiar names. Adding to a common theme, we should be very careful to remember to add the "Do Not Archive" to our posts. We are starting out with a clean Archive section so we should try to keep it that way. The main Zenith list has become so polluted that it is all but useless. Happy building. Doug MacDonald CH-701 Scratch Builder NW Ontario, Canada Do not archive Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ


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    Time: 08:31:45 AM PST US
    From: Tony Bonsell <tbonsell@luxuria.com>
    Subject: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
    Hi Guys! Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a reason it can't go on the inside? Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes... *************************************************** Tony Bonsell (tbonsell@luxuria.com) CI-FKF Luxuria + Apparatus Design Communications 535 Cragg Road, RR #3 Uxbridge, Ontario L9P 1R3 Voice: 905.852.3848 http://www.luxuria.com ***************************************************


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    Time: 08:58:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
    From: "Randall J. Hebert" <randy@rjhebertassoc.com>
    Tony If you run them inside they won't line up with the rudder horn I am not there yet but it seems that it would require some pulleys to make it work. Do Not Archive Randall J Hebert Hi Guys! Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a reason it can't go on the inside? Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes...


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    Time: 09:10:42 AM PST US
    From: "John Bolding" <jnbolding1@teleshare.net>
    Subject: Re: Finally a list that has more STOL that Zodiac
    Yeah and I'm about the worst offender, I REALLY wish Matt would put a big, DayGlo yellow, flashing "DO NOT ARCHIVE" at the heading of each post so we would easily see it and spur us to think about whether or not to archive. OR a little box to check either yes or no, message wouldn't send 'till one was selected. Come ON Matt , you don't have anything ELSE to do but play with this stuff ,right. LO&SLO John > <dougsnash@yahoo.com> > > Adding to a common theme, we should be very careful to > remember to add the "Do Not Archive" to our posts. We > are starting out with a clean Archive section so we > should try to keep it that way. The main Zenith list > has become so polluted that it is all but useless. >> >


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    Time: 09:38:42 AM PST US
    From: Stanley Challgren <challgren@mac.com>
    Subject: 701 Nose gear stop (7F8-6)
    Builders: I followed the measurements exactly when fabricating the Nose Gear Stop (7F8-6). The problem with that was that I was off about 1/8" somewhere else when doing the Nose Gear Strut Assembly (7L1-1J). The result is a gap of about 1/8" between the Nose Gear Stop and the steel tube to which the steering rods attach. Rather than ordering new Nose Gear Stops from Zenair I am considering adding some bearing material as that contained in the Lower Bearing (7F7-4C). The list has previously had pictures of such a fix and the material was named but I cannot locate either in my files. I can find nothing in Aircraft Spruce that resembles what I am looking for. Could someone help me out with the name and where the item can be purchased? Stan N701VG (Reserved) 3300 & FWF arrives in May


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    Time: 10:44:43 AM PST US
    From: Keith Ashcraft <keith.ashcraft@itt.com>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
    Tony, I have seen them both ways on flying planes. My plans also show inside, but there are planes flying that have them both ways. Randall has a good point, although I am not at that point either, to see if my set of plans will work with my rudder horn or not. (Wow some traffic on the new Zenith701801-List) Keith http://picasaweb.google.com/ch701builder/SN4765 CH701 -- scratch -- currently working on baggage area on rear fuselage N 38.9947 W 105.1305 Alt. 9,100' *************************************************************************** ********************************* Randall J. Hebert wrote: tassoc.com><mailto:randy@rjhebertassoc.com> Tony If you run them inside they won't line up with the rudder horn I am not there yet but it seems that it would require some pulleys to make it work. Do Not Archive Randall J Hebert Hi Guys! Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a reason it can't go on the inside? Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes... -- ************************************* Keith Ashcraft ITT Industries Advanced Engineering & Sciences 5009 Centennial Blvd. Colorado Springs, CO 80919 (719) 599-1787 -- work (719) 332-4364 -- cell keith.ashcraft@itt.com<mailto:keith.ashcraft@itt.com> keith.ashcraft1@us.army.mil<mailto:keith.ashcraft1@us.army.mil> ________________________________ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are in tended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addr essed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporati on. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the pres ence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any viru s transmitted by this e-mail.


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    Time: 10:53:49 AM PST US
    From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
    Subject: Re: 701 Nose gear stop (7F8-6)
    Hi Stanley, I'd recommend you add bearing nylon to the top edge of the stops similar to what's seen in this link. Straight surfaces are better than curved as I found out after and changed back to straight. Link below, http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/stratstops.gif Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com Stanley Challgren wrote: > <challgren@mac.com> > > Builders: > > I followed the measurements exactly when fabricating the Nose Gear > Stop (7F8-6). The problem with that was that I was off about 1/8" > somewhere else when doing the Nose Gear Strut Assembly (7L1-1J). The > result is a gap of about 1/8" between the Nose Gear Stop and the steel > tube to which the steering rods attach. Rather than ordering new Nose > Gear Stops from Zenair I am considering adding some bearing material > as that contained in the Lower Bearing (7F7-4C). > > The list has previously had pictures of such a fix and the material > was named but I cannot locate either in my files. I can find nothing > in Aircraft Spruce that resembles what I am looking for. Could > someone help me out with the name and where the item can be purchased? > > Stan > N701VG (Reserved) > 3300 & FWF arrives in May > >


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    Time: 10:59:36 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Sherman" <n752ms@softcom.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
    Tony. My nylon fairleads are on the inside and work just fine. I don't remember what my plans called out, but your right, look like crap on the outside. You may not be able to position them in the same spot as the plans call out, you may have to slide them a little forward to get it to line up with the hole in the side skin. It will be a bit more trouble to replace them in the future, unless you have an inspection hole to allow access. Mark Sherman 701/912ULS Painting ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bonsell" <tbonsell@luxuria.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? > <tbonsell@luxuria.com> > > Hi Guys! > > Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be > installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a > reason it can't go on the inside? > > Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes... > > *************************************************** > Tony Bonsell (tbonsell@luxuria.com) CI-FKF > Luxuria + Apparatus Design Communications > 535 Cragg Road, RR #3 > Uxbridge, Ontario L9P 1R3 > Voice: 905.852.3848 > http://www.luxuria.com > > *************************************************** > > > -- > Date: 4/29/2008 6:27 PM >


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    Time: 11:17:02 AM PST US
    From: Keith Ashcraft <keith.ashcraft@itt.com>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
    Mark, My plans don't have any dims for where to cut the hole. It just calls out " General area" for fairleads. What / How did you measure yours to find where to put them? Keith *************************************************************************** *** Mark Sherman wrote: ><mailto:n752ms@softcom.net> Tony. My nylon fairleads are on the inside and work just fine. I don't remember what my plans called out, but your right, look like crap on the outside. Yo u may not be able to position them in the same spot as the plans call out, you may have to slide them a little forward to get it to line up with the h ole in the side skin. It will be a bit more trouble to replace them in the future, unless you have an inspection hole to allow access. Mark Sherman 701/912ULS Painting ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bonsell" <tbonsell@luxuria.com><ma ilto:tbonsell@luxuria.com> m> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? ><mailto:tbonsell@luxuria.com> Hi Guys! Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be install ed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a reason it ca n't go on the inside? Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes... *************************************************** Tony Bonsell (tbonsell@luxuria.com<mailto:tbonsell@luxuria.com>) CI-FKF Luxuria + Apparatus Design Communications 535 Cragg Road, RR #3 Uxbridge, Ontario L9P 1R3 Voice: 905.852.3848 http://www.luxuria.com *************************************************** -- -- ************************************* Keith Ashcraft ITT Industries Advanced Engineering & Sciences 5009 Centennial Blvd. Colorado Springs, CO 80919 (719) 599-1787 -- work (719) 332-4364 -- cell keith.ashcraft@itt.com<mailto:keith.ashcraft@itt.com> keith.ashcraft1@us.army.mil<mailto:keith.ashcraft1@us.army.mil> ________________________________ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are in tended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addr essed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporati on. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the pres ence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any viru s transmitted by this e-mail.


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    Time: 11:25:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
    From: "Randall J. Hebert" <randy@rjhebertassoc.com>
    OK I missed the logic here I understand now what you are saying. The cables still go outside but the fairlead itself would be inside is that what you are saying? DO Not Archive Randall J Hebert - Hi Guys! Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a reason it can't go on the inside? Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes...


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    Time: 11:31:29 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Sherman" <n752ms@softcom.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
    Keith. Let me go out to the shop and look at my plans and the airplane. Give me a half hour. Mark Sherman 701/912ULS do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Ashcraft To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? Mark, My plans don't have any dims for where to cut the hole. It just calls out "General area" for fairleads. What / How did you measure yours to find where to put them? Keith ************************************************************************* ***** Mark Sherman wrote: <n752ms@softcom.net> Tony. My nylon fairleads are on the inside and work just fine. I don't remember what my plans called out, but your right, look like crap on the outside. You may not be able to position them in the same spot as the plans call out, you may have to slide them a little forward to get it to line up with the hole in the side skin. It will be a bit more trouble to replace them in the future, unless you have an inspection hole to allow access. Mark Sherman 701/912ULS Painting ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bonsell" <tbonsell@luxuria.com> To: <zenith701801-list@matronics.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? <tbonsell@luxuria.com> Hi Guys! Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a reason it can't go on the inside? Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes... *************************************************** Tony Bonsell (tbonsell@luxuria.com) CI-FKF Luxuria + Apparatus Design Communications 535 Cragg Road, RR #3 Uxbridge, Ontario L9P 1R3 Voice: 905.852.3848 http://www.luxuria.com *************************************************** -- Date: 4/29/2008 6:27 PM =========== 801-List Email Forum - www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List =========== p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com =========== p; - List Contribution Web Site - p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. www.matronics.com/contribution"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution =========== -- ************************************* Keith Ashcraft ITT Industries Advanced Engineering & Sciences 5009 Centennial Blvd. Colorado Springs, CO 80919 (719) 599-1787 -- work (719) 332-4364 -- cell keith.ashcraft@itt.com keith.ashcraft1@us.army.mil ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporation. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG. 4/29/2008 6:27 PM


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    Time: 11:46:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 701 Nose gear stop (7F8-6)
    From: nyterminat@aol.com
    Ultra high molecular something. Try UHM on the McMaster sight. I bought mine from them. Bob Spudis N701ZX with UHM material on the outside under the fairlead covers. Not very noticeable. The list has previously had pictures of such a fix and the material was named but I cannot locate either in my files. I can find nothing in Aircraft Spruce that resembles what I am looking for. Could someone help me out with the name and where the item can be purchased?? ? ? ? ?


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    Time: 11:55:52 AM PST US
    From: "Phil Owens" <powens@tds.net>
    Subject: Wing Attach Bolts
    Dear Dan, I am almost finished with my 801 and as I recall the bolts I used were undrilled. I used the locknuts that came with it and I also put on a touch of locktite as I don't have any plans in the near future to remove the wings and it is just a small additional safety feature. Hope this helps. Phil Owens CH-801 Beloit,WI


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    Time: 12:01:15 PM PST US
    From: "Phil Owens" <powens@tds.net>
    Subject: Regarding Ballast
    Dear Jeff, I might suggest the weight and balance you will need to do upon completion will determine if you need any additional weight either forward or aft, I am not aware of anyone I have worked with indicating the need to add any ballast. Remember the 801 has a 1000# useful load and if you have remained within the weight limits for the engine you will probably be in the ballpark to start with. Phil Owens CH-801 Beloit,WI


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    Time: 12:09:14 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Sherman" <n752ms@softcom.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
    Keith. OK I'm back. My plans 06/2001 edition 4 have the slot for the cable 5mm high and 20mm long, the center of that slot is located 40mm forward of the center line of 7F1-4, which is the front horizontal tail frame. The bottom of the slot is located 2mm up from the top edge of the bottom longeron. The slot in the nylon is some-what smaller so the cable doesn't rub on the aluminum. This information is on drawing 7-C-5. So is that clear as mud? Mark Sherman 701/912ULS ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Ashcraft To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? Mark, My plans don't have any dims for where to cut the hole. It just calls out "General area" for fairleads. What / How did you measure yours to find where to put them? Keith ************************************************************************* ***** Mark Sherman wrote: <n752ms@softcom.net> Tony. My nylon fairleads are on the inside and work just fine. I don't remember what my plans called out, but your right, look like crap on the outside. You may not be able to position them in the same spot as the plans call out, you may have to slide them a little forward to get it to line up with the hole in the side skin. It will be a bit more trouble to replace them in the future, unless you have an inspection hole to allow access. Mark Sherman 701/912ULS Painting ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bonsell" <tbonsell@luxuria.com> To: <zenith701801-list@matronics.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? <tbonsell@luxuria.com> Hi Guys! Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a reason it can't go on the inside? Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes... *************************************************** Tony Bonsell (tbonsell@luxuria.com) CI-FKF Luxuria + Apparatus Design Communications 535 Cragg Road, RR #3 Uxbridge, Ontario L9P 1R3 Voice: 905.852.3848 http://www.luxuria.com *************************************************** -- Date: 4/29/2008 6:27 PM =========== 801-List Email Forum - www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List =========== p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com =========== p; - List Contribution Web Site - p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. www.matronics.com/contribution"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution =========== -- ************************************* Keith Ashcraft ITT Industries Advanced Engineering & Sciences 5009 Centennial Blvd. Colorado Springs, CO 80919 (719) 599-1787 -- work (719) 332-4364 -- cell keith.ashcraft@itt.com keith.ashcraft1@us.army.mil ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporation. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG. 4/29/2008 6:27 PM


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    Time: 12:22:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Regarding Ballast
    From: "n85ae" <n85ae@yahoo.com>
    Haha. Well that's kind of a maybe you will, maybe you won't answer ... :) With my Kitfox I never heard anybody say, while I was building it, but every single builder I ever talked to after I finished mine who had the same engine I did - all admitted they were real close to edge balance wise, so at least if you are building an IO-240B based Kitfox, you "should" install a ballast box in the tail. Which is something I wish I had known before I closed in the tail. Which is what I'm trying to figure out with the 801. SO let me re-phrase that - If you have built an 801, with an O-360 did you find a need to add ballast to the tail when you finished to get an acceptable balance? If the answer is no, then I'll probably not add a ballast box. :) Regards, Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=180344#180344


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    Time: 12:30:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Regarding Ballast
    From: "n85ae" <n85ae@yahoo.com>
    Ok, maybe I mis-read your reply. It looks like you didn't have to. Anybody else have to add ballast in an 801? Thanks, Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=180347#180347


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    Time: 01:16:21 PM PST US
    From: Keith Ashcraft <keith.ashcraft@itt.com>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
    OK Thanks, I will keep these numbers and see where that leads me. I have also used 80mm gussets instead of the 50mm, and I am thinking about adding another fairlead part at the last gusset, instead of cutting it down to meet the "L" bracket along the bottom of the skin, to make room for the cable. Don't know yet. Thanks again, Keith ********************************************************************** Mark Sherman wrote: > Keith. > > OK I'm back. My plans 06/2001 edition 4 have the slot for the cable > 5mm high and 20mm long, the center of that slot is located 40mm > forward of the center line of 7F1-4, which is the front horizontal > tail frame. The bottom of the slot is located 2mm up from the top > edge of the bottom longeron. The slot in the nylon is some-what > smaller so the cable doesn't rub on the aluminum. > > This information is on drawing 7-C-5. > > So is that clear as mud? > > Mark Sherman > 701/912ULS > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Keith Ashcraft <mailto:keith.ashcraft@itt.com> > *To:* zenith701801-list@matronics.com > <mailto:zenith701801-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:16 AM > *Subject:* Re: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or > out? > > Mark, > My plans don't have any dims for where to cut the hole. It just > calls out "General area" for fairleads. What / How did you measure > yours to find where to put them? > > Keith > ****************************************************************************** > > Mark Sherman wrote: > >> <n752ms@softcom.net> >> >> Tony. >> >> My nylon fairleads are on the inside and work just fine. I don't >> remember what my plans called out, but your right, look like crap >> on the outside. You may not be able to position them in the same >> spot as the plans call out, you may have to slide them a little >> forward to get it to line up with the hole in the side skin. It >> will be a bit more trouble to replace them in the future, unless >> you have an inspection hole to allow access. >> >> Mark Sherman >> 701/912ULS >> Painting >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bonsell" >> <tbonsell@luxuria.com> >> To: <zenith701801-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:28 AM >> Subject: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? >> >> >>> <tbonsell@luxuria.com> >>> >>> Hi Guys! >>> >>> Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to >>> be installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody >>> know of a reason it can't go on the inside? >>> >>> Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes... >>> >>> *************************************************** >>> Tony Bonsell (tbonsell@luxuria.com) CI-FKF >>> Luxuria + Apparatus Design Communications >>> 535 Cragg Road, RR #3 >>> Uxbridge, Ontario L9P 1R3 >>> Voice: 905.852.3848 >>> http://www.luxuria.com >>> >>> *************************************************** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Date: 4/29/2008 6:27 PM >>> >> >> >> ========== >> 801-List Email Forum - >> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List >> ========== >> p; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> p; - List Contribution Web Site - >> p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> www.matronics.com/contribution"> >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > > -- > > *************************************** > > *Keith Ashcraft* > > ITT Industries > > Advanced Engineering & Sciences > > 5009 Centennial Blvd. > > Colorado Springs, CO > > 80919 > > (719) 599-1787 -- work > > (719) 332-4364 -- cell > > keith.ashcraft@itt.com <mailto:keith.ashcraft@itt.com> > > keith.ashcraft1@us.army.mil <mailto:keith.ashcraft1@us.army.mil> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary > and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to > whom they are addressed. 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