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1. 07:26 AM - 801 Battery/Ballast Box (n85ae)
2. 07:54 AM - Finally a list that has more STOL that Zodiac (MacDonald Doug)
3. 08:31 AM - Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Tony Bonsell)
4. 08:58 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Randall J. Hebert)
5. 09:10 AM - Re: Finally a list that has more STOL that Zodiac (John Bolding)
6. 09:38 AM - 701 Nose gear stop (7F8-6) (Stanley Challgren)
7. 10:44 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Keith Ashcraft)
8. 10:53 AM - Re: [Probable Spam] 701 Nose gear stop (7F8-6) (LarryMcFarland)
9. 10:59 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Mark Sherman)
10. 11:17 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Keith Ashcraft)
11. 11:25 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Randall J. Hebert)
12. 11:31 AM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Mark Sherman)
13. 11:46 AM - Re: 701 Nose gear stop (7F8-6) (nyterminat@aol.com)
14. 11:55 AM - Wing Attach Bolts (Phil Owens)
15. 12:01 PM - Regarding Ballast (Phil Owens)
16. 12:09 PM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Mark Sherman)
17. 12:22 PM - Re: Regarding Ballast (n85ae)
18. 12:30 PM - Re: Regarding Ballast (n85ae)
19. 01:16 PM - Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? (Keith Ashcraft)
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Subject: | 801 Battery/Ballast Box |
Can any builder's with completed 801's tell me if they found a need to add
ballast to the tail, or locate the battery aft for balance purposes?
I built my Kitfox with a Continental IO-240B and ended up installing a
ballast box in the tail, via the battery access panel, which was a real
bear of a job.
Just getting ready to rivet my fueslage skins on my 801, and trying to
decide whether or not to build in a ballast box, or battery mount in the
tail.
I'll be using a Lycoming O-360 most likely.
Regards,
Jeff
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Subject: | Finally a list that has more STOL that Zodiac |
Hey guys, I suppose I'm a little slow catch up but
finally got around to joining the new STOL list. I
checked the seven day archive online and see a bunch
of familiar names.
Adding to a common theme, we should be very careful to
remember to add the "Do Not Archive" to our posts. We
are starting out with a clean Archive section so we
should try to keep it that way. The main Zenith list
has become so polluted that it is all but useless.
Happy building.
Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada
Do not archive
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Subject: | Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? |
Hi Guys!
Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be
installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a
reason it can't go on the inside?
Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes...
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Luxuria + Apparatus Design Communications
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Uxbridge, Ontario L9P 1R3
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Subject: | Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? |
Tony
If you run them inside they won't line up with the rudder horn
I am not there yet but it seems that it would require some pulleys to
make it work.
Do Not Archive
Randall J Hebert
Hi Guys!
Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be
installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a
reason it can't go on the inside?
Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes...
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Subject: | Re: Finally a list that has more STOL that Zodiac |
Yeah and I'm about the worst offender, I REALLY wish Matt would put a big,
DayGlo yellow, flashing "DO NOT ARCHIVE" at the heading of each post so we
would easily see it and spur us to think about whether or not to archive.
OR a little box to check either yes or no, message wouldn't send 'till one
was selected. Come ON Matt , you don't have anything ELSE to do but play
with this stuff ,right. LO&SLO John
> <dougsnash@yahoo.com>
>
> Adding to a common theme, we should be very careful to
> remember to add the "Do Not Archive" to our posts. We
> are starting out with a clean Archive section so we
> should try to keep it that way. The main Zenith list
> has become so polluted that it is all but useless.
>>
>
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Subject: | 701 Nose gear stop (7F8-6) |
Builders:
I followed the measurements exactly when fabricating the Nose Gear
Stop (7F8-6). The problem with that was that I was off about 1/8"
somewhere else when doing the Nose Gear Strut Assembly (7L1-1J). The
result is a gap of about 1/8" between the Nose Gear Stop and the steel
tube to which the steering rods attach. Rather than ordering new Nose
Gear Stops from Zenair I am considering adding some bearing material
as that contained in the Lower Bearing (7F7-4C).
The list has previously had pictures of such a fix and the material
was named but I cannot locate either in my files. I can find nothing
in Aircraft Spruce that resembles what I am looking for. Could
someone help me out with the name and where the item can be purchased?
Stan
N701VG (Reserved)
3300 & FWF arrives in May
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Subject: | Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? |
Tony,
I have seen them both ways on flying planes. My plans also show inside, but
there are planes flying that have them both ways.
Randall has a good point, although I am not at that point either, to see if
my set of plans will work with my rudder horn or not.
(Wow some traffic on the new Zenith701801-List)
Keith
http://picasaweb.google.com/ch701builder/SN4765
CH701 -- scratch -- currently working on baggage area on rear fuselage
N 38.9947
W 105.1305
Alt. 9,100'
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Tony
If you run them inside they won't line up with the rudder horn
I am not there yet but it seems that it would require some pulleys to
make it work.
Do Not Archive
Randall J Hebert
Hi Guys!
Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be
installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a
reason it can't go on the inside?
Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes...
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ITT Industries
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5009 Centennial Blvd.
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Subject: | Re: 701 Nose gear stop (7F8-6) |
Hi Stanley,
I'd recommend you add bearing nylon to the top edge of the stops similar
to what's seen in this link.
Straight surfaces are better than curved as I found out after and
changed back to straight. Link below,
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/stratstops.gif
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Stanley Challgren wrote:
> <challgren@mac.com>
>
> Builders:
>
> I followed the measurements exactly when fabricating the Nose Gear
> Stop (7F8-6). The problem with that was that I was off about 1/8"
> somewhere else when doing the Nose Gear Strut Assembly (7L1-1J). The
> result is a gap of about 1/8" between the Nose Gear Stop and the steel
> tube to which the steering rods attach. Rather than ordering new Nose
> Gear Stops from Zenair I am considering adding some bearing material
> as that contained in the Lower Bearing (7F7-4C).
>
> The list has previously had pictures of such a fix and the material
> was named but I cannot locate either in my files. I can find nothing
> in Aircraft Spruce that resembles what I am looking for. Could
> someone help me out with the name and where the item can be purchased?
>
> Stan
> N701VG (Reserved)
> 3300 & FWF arrives in May
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? |
Tony.
My nylon fairleads are on the inside and work just fine. I don't remember
what my plans called out, but your right, look like crap on the outside.
You may not be able to position them in the same spot as the plans call out,
you may have to slide them a little forward to get it to line up with the
hole in the side skin. It will be a bit more trouble to replace them in the
future, unless you have an inspection hole to allow access.
Mark Sherman
701/912ULS
Painting
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From: "Tony Bonsell" <tbonsell@luxuria.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:28 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
> <tbonsell@luxuria.com>
>
> Hi Guys!
>
> Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be
> installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a
> reason it can't go on the inside?
>
> Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes...
>
> ***************************************************
> Tony Bonsell (tbonsell@luxuria.com) CI-FKF
> Luxuria + Apparatus Design Communications
> 535 Cragg Road, RR #3
> Uxbridge, Ontario L9P 1R3
> Voice: 905.852.3848
> http://www.luxuria.com
>
> ***************************************************
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>
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> Date: 4/29/2008 6:27 PM
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Subject: | Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? |
Mark,
My plans don't have any dims for where to cut the hole. It just calls out "
General area" for fairleads. What / How did you measure yours to find where
to put them?
Keith
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Mark Sherman wrote:
><mailto:n752ms@softcom.net>
Tony.
My nylon fairleads are on the inside and work just fine. I don't remember
what my plans called out, but your right, look like crap on the outside. Yo
u may not be able to position them in the same spot as the plans call out,
you may have to slide them a little forward to get it to line up with the h
ole in the side skin. It will be a bit more trouble to replace them in the
future, unless you have an inspection hole to allow access.
Mark Sherman
701/912ULS
Painting
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bonsell" <tbonsell@luxuria.com><ma
ilto:tbonsell@luxuria.com>
m>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:28 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
><mailto:tbonsell@luxuria.com>
Hi Guys!
Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be install
ed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a reason it ca
n't go on the inside?
Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes...
***************************************************
Tony Bonsell (tbonsell@luxuria.com<mailto:tbonsell@luxuria.com>) CI-FKF
Luxuria + Apparatus Design Communications
535 Cragg Road, RR #3
Uxbridge, Ontario L9P 1R3
Voice: 905.852.3848
http://www.luxuria.com
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Keith Ashcraft
ITT Industries
Advanced Engineering & Sciences
5009 Centennial Blvd.
Colorado Springs, CO
80919
(719) 599-1787 -- work
(719) 332-4364 -- cell
keith.ashcraft@itt.com<mailto:keith.ashcraft@itt.com>
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Subject: | Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? |
OK
I missed the logic here
I understand now what you are saying. The cables still go outside but
the fairlead itself would be inside is that what you are saying?
DO Not Archive
Randall J Hebert
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Hi Guys!
Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to be
installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a
reason it can't go on the inside?
Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes...
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Subject: | Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? |
Keith.
Let me go out to the shop and look at my plans and the airplane. Give
me a half hour.
Mark Sherman
701/912ULS
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Ashcraft
To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
Mark,
My plans don't have any dims for where to cut the hole. It just calls
out "General area" for fairleads. What / How did you measure yours to
find where to put them?
Keith
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Mark Sherman wrote:
<n752ms@softcom.net>
Tony.
My nylon fairleads are on the inside and work just fine. I don't
remember what my plans called out, but your right, look like crap on the
outside. You may not be able to position them in the same spot as the
plans call out, you may have to slide them a little forward to get it to
line up with the hole in the side skin. It will be a bit more trouble
to replace them in the future, unless you have an inspection hole to
allow access.
Mark Sherman
701/912ULS
Painting
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bonsell"
<tbonsell@luxuria.com>
To: <zenith701801-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:28 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
<tbonsell@luxuria.com>
Hi Guys!
Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to
be installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a
reason it can't go on the inside?
Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes...
***************************************************
Tony Bonsell (tbonsell@luxuria.com) CI-FKF
Luxuria + Apparatus Design Communications
535 Cragg Road, RR #3
Uxbridge, Ontario L9P 1R3
Voice: 905.852.3848
http://www.luxuria.com
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Subject: | Re: 701 Nose gear stop (7F8-6) |
Ultra high molecular something. Try UHM on the McMaster sight. I bought mine from
them.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX with UHM material on the outside under the fairlead covers. Not very noticeable.
The list has previously had pictures of such a fix and the material was named but
I cannot locate either in my files. I can find nothing in Aircraft Spruce that
resembles what I am looking for. Could someone help me out with the name and
where the item can be purchased??
?
?
?
?
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Subject: | Wing Attach Bolts |
Dear Dan,
I am almost finished with my 801 and as I recall the bolts I used were
undrilled. I used the locknuts that came with it and I also put on a
touch of locktite as I don't have any plans in the near future to remove
the wings and it is just a small additional safety feature. Hope this
helps.
Phil Owens
CH-801 Beloit,WI
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Subject: | Regarding Ballast |
Dear Jeff,
I might suggest the weight and balance you will need to do upon
completion will determine if you need any additional weight either
forward or aft, I am not aware of anyone I have worked with indicating
the need to add any ballast. Remember the 801 has a 1000# useful load
and if you have remained within the weight limits for the engine you
will probably be in the ballpark to start with.
Phil Owens
CH-801 Beloit,WI
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Subject: | Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? |
Keith.
OK I'm back. My plans 06/2001 edition 4 have the slot for the cable 5mm
high and 20mm long, the center of that slot is located 40mm forward of
the center line of 7F1-4, which is the front horizontal tail frame. The
bottom of the slot is located 2mm up from the top edge of the bottom
longeron. The slot in the nylon is some-what smaller so the cable
doesn't rub on the aluminum.
This information is on drawing 7-C-5.
So is that clear as mud?
Mark Sherman
701/912ULS
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From: Keith Ashcraft
To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
Mark,
My plans don't have any dims for where to cut the hole. It just calls
out "General area" for fairleads. What / How did you measure yours to
find where to put them?
Keith
*************************************************************************
*****
Mark Sherman wrote:
<n752ms@softcom.net>
Tony.
My nylon fairleads are on the inside and work just fine. I don't
remember what my plans called out, but your right, look like crap on the
outside. You may not be able to position them in the same spot as the
plans call out, you may have to slide them a little forward to get it to
line up with the hole in the side skin. It will be a bit more trouble
to replace them in the future, unless you have an inspection hole to
allow access.
Mark Sherman
701/912ULS
Painting
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bonsell"
<tbonsell@luxuria.com>
To: <zenith701801-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:28 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
<tbonsell@luxuria.com>
Hi Guys!
Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to
be installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody know of a
reason it can't go on the inside?
Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes...
***************************************************
Tony Bonsell (tbonsell@luxuria.com) CI-FKF
Luxuria + Apparatus Design Communications
535 Cragg Road, RR #3
Uxbridge, Ontario L9P 1R3
Voice: 905.852.3848
http://www.luxuria.com
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Subject: | Re: Regarding Ballast |
Haha. Well that's kind of a maybe you will, maybe you won't answer ... :)
With my Kitfox I never heard anybody say, while I was building it, but every single
builder I ever talked to after I finished mine who had the
same engine I did - all admitted they were real close to edge balance
wise, so at least if you are building an IO-240B based Kitfox, you
"should" install a ballast box in the tail. Which is something I wish I
had known before I closed in the tail.
Which is what I'm trying to figure out with the 801.
SO let me re-phrase that - If you have built an 801, with an O-360
did you find a need to add ballast to the tail when you finished to get
an acceptable balance?
If the answer is no, then I'll probably not add a ballast box. :)
Regards,
Jeff
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Subject: | Re: Regarding Ballast |
Ok, maybe I mis-read your reply. It looks like you didn't have to.
Anybody else have to add ballast in an 801?
Thanks,
Jeff
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Subject: | Re: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out? |
OK Thanks, I will keep these numbers and see where that leads me. I have
also used 80mm gussets instead of the 50mm, and I am thinking about
adding another fairlead part at the last gusset, instead of cutting it
down to meet the "L" bracket along the bottom of the skin, to make room
for the cable.
Don't know yet.
Thanks again,
Keith
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Mark Sherman wrote:
> Keith.
>
> OK I'm back. My plans 06/2001 edition 4 have the slot for the cable
> 5mm high and 20mm long, the center of that slot is located 40mm
> forward of the center line of 7F1-4, which is the front horizontal
> tail frame. The bottom of the slot is located 2mm up from the top
> edge of the bottom longeron. The slot in the nylon is some-what
> smaller so the cable doesn't rub on the aluminum.
>
> This information is on drawing 7-C-5.
>
> So is that clear as mud?
>
> Mark Sherman
> 701/912ULS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Keith Ashcraft <mailto:keith.ashcraft@itt.com>
> *To:* zenith701801-list@matronics.com
> <mailto:zenith701801-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:16 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or
> out?
>
> Mark,
> My plans don't have any dims for where to cut the hole. It just
> calls out "General area" for fairleads. What / How did you measure
> yours to find where to put them?
>
> Keith
> ******************************************************************************
>
> Mark Sherman wrote:
>
>> <n752ms@softcom.net>
>>
>> Tony.
>>
>> My nylon fairleads are on the inside and work just fine. I don't
>> remember what my plans called out, but your right, look like crap
>> on the outside. You may not be able to position them in the same
>> spot as the plans call out, you may have to slide them a little
>> forward to get it to line up with the hole in the side skin. It
>> will be a bit more trouble to replace them in the future, unless
>> you have an inspection hole to allow access.
>>
>> Mark Sherman
>> 701/912ULS
>> Painting
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bonsell"
>> <tbonsell@luxuria.com>
>> To: <zenith701801-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:28 AM
>> Subject: Zenith701801-List: Rudder Cable Fairlead: inside or out?
>>
>>
>>> <tbonsell@luxuria.com>
>>>
>>> Hi Guys!
>>>
>>> Okay, the rudder cable fairleads. The new plans call for them to
>>> be installed on the outside of the skin. Looks crappy. Anybody
>>> know of a reason it can't go on the inside?
>>>
>>> Seem to remember seeing it that way on some planes...
>>>
>>> ***************************************************
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>>> Luxuria + Apparatus Design Communications
>>> 535 Cragg Road, RR #3
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>>> Voice: 905.852.3848
>>> http://www.luxuria.com
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