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1. 04:52 AM - Extended wing (stepinwolf)
2. 05:54 AM - Re: first flight (Tommy Walker)
3. 06:01 AM - Re: first flight (kmccune)
4. 01:33 PM - High water temps (Dan)
5. 01:51 PM - Aluminum Sources / Bending Brake... (SafeAirOne)
6. 02:24 PM - Re: Re: first flight (Gordon)
7. 03:07 PM - Re: Re: first flight (John Marzulli)
8. 03:21 PM - Re: Aluminum Sources / Bending Brake... (John Bolding)
9. 03:22 PM - Chat room reminder the the "Digesters" (George Race)
10. 05:33 PM - Re: first flight (kmccune)
11. 09:52 PM - Gas springs on 701 bubble doors? (Craig Payne)
12. 11:13 PM - Re: Gas springs on 701 bubble doors? ()
13. 11:15 PM - Re: Getting started scratch building a 701. (AB_Summit)
14. 11:20 PM - Re: Gas springs on 701 bubble doors? (Craig Payne)
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I have been told that Chris Heinz has written, or approved of, a slight increase
in the wingspan as a mod for the 701. Can anyone point me in the right direction
to the article, mod, or where it was published. ?
Thank you
Bob the 701 scratch
Three Rivers, Quebec
# 7-7143
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Live each day, as if it was your last
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Gordon,
Congratulations!
Tommy Walker in Alabama
N8701 57 Hrs
Do Not Archive
The plane flew beautifully with nothing unexpected at all to report. What a
great little plane!
701 / 912ULS
Gordon Lysle
Vote Democrat - it's easier than working!
Vote Republican - it's easier than thinking!
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Congrats! Any pics of your new baby?
I'm sooo jealous! :D
Kevin
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Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
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| Subject: | High water temps |
All:
In my test flights of my 701 with the 912S, I have been seeing high
water temps that are close to the maximum of 250 degrees F. I have cut
off quite a bit of the cowl per the plans and the temperatures are still
on the high side.
What has been everyone else's experience and what have you done to
reduce the water temps. The oil temps and pressures are fine. This
engine only has 7 hours on it so far.
Dan Wilde
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| Subject: | Aluminum Sources / Bending Brake... |
Hello Everyone,
I've just received my set of drawings for a plans-built 701, and I have my first
few (of many) questions already...
I'm trying to plan ahead and see that the wing spar caps are .093" thick, 90-degree
extrusions. None of the common (and economical) sources sell 3/32" thick
(.0938) 90-degree extrusions called for in the plans. What are all you scratch
builders using for wing spar caps? I presume that the answer is 1/8" (.125)
thick extrusion with an appropriate-length solid rivet.
Speaking of aluminum, what is the most economical source for 6061 T6? Wicks is
the cheapest I've found so far, with Airparts, Inc. coming in a close second.
Are there any other sources that might be cheaper?
Finally, what is the longest part I'll have to bend on a brake? I've scanned the
plans and think it's the horizontal stabilizer rear spar @ 2220mm (7'-04" or
so). Are there any pieces longer than this that will need to be bent in a brake?
Thanks,
--Mark
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
I've been having a blast with this plane, attached is a photo
----- Original Message -----
From: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:01 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: first flight
>
> Congrats! Any pics of your new baby?
> I'm sooo jealous! :D
>
> Kevin
>
> --------
> Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the
> things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the
> bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your
> sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183643#183643
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Sharp looking paint job!
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On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Gordon <cscsail@gmavt.net> wrote:
> I've been having a blast with this plane, attached is a photo
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>
> To: <zenith701801-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:01 AM
> Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: first flight
>
>
>>
>> Congrats! Any pics of your new baby?
>> I'm sooo jealous! :D
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> --------
>> Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the
>> things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the
>> bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your
>> sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183643#183643
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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--
John Marzulli
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/
http://www.JohnMarzulli.net/
"Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot
harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
-Airplane The Movie
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Sources / Bending Brake... |
Mark, Trident Metals and Yarde Metals are both Industrial Metal houses
with large stocks and several warehouses, I've ALWAYS found metal cheaper
there. They have sheet as well.
The .093 is a special Zenith extrusion available only from them, as far as
anybody has discovered to date. Weight penalty using the 1/8" is about 4#
and price savings of $300 last time I figured it. Zenith approves the
substitution.
The longerons are a little longer but only if you want to bend them full
length instead of splicing them as in the plans.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "SafeAirOne" <safeairone@verizon.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 3:51 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Aluminum Sources / Bending Brake...
> <safeairone@verizon.net>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I've just received my set of drawings for a plans-built 701, and I have my
> first few (of many) questions already...
>
> I'm trying to plan ahead and see that the wing spar caps are .093" thick,
> 90-degree extrusions. None of the common (and economical) sources sell
> 3/32" thick (.0938) 90-degree extrusions called for in the plans. What
> are all you scratch builders using for wing spar caps? I presume that the
> answer is 1/8" (.125) thick extrusion with an appropriate-length solid
> rivet.
>
> Speaking of aluminum, what is the most economical source for 6061 T6?
> Wicks is the cheapest I've found so far, with Airparts, Inc. coming in a
> close second. Are there any other sources that might be cheaper?
>
> Finally, what is the longest part I'll have to bend on a brake? I've
> scanned the plans and think it's the horizontal stabilizer rear spar @
> 2220mm (7'-04" or so). Are there any pieces longer than this that will
> need to be bent in a brake?
>
> Thanks,
> --Mark
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183701#183701
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Chat room reminder the the "Digesters" |
Please join us for our Monday evening chat room starting around 8:00 PM
Eastern Time.
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George
CH-701 Registered as N73EX
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
Sweet!
do not archive.
Kevin
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Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183742#183742
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| Subject: | Gas springs on 701 bubble doors? |
I know that some 701s have gas springs to hold the doors up and open (the
"Lizard" plane for one). Does anyone have any detailed information like
photos, geometry, strength of spring to use, pluses and minuses?
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| Subject: | Gas springs on 701 bubble doors? |
Craig,
the CZAW made 701s used gas door springs and they work really nicely.
There is even a -cz version of the ZAC drawing for this installation.
If you want I can send some photos and more detailed part information.
rgrds
Max
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On
>Behalf Of ext Craig Payne
>Sent: 19 May, 2008 07:49
>To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith701801-List: Gas springs on 701 bubble doors?
>
>--> <craig@craigandjean.com>
>
>I know that some 701s have gas springs to hold the doors up
>and open (the "Lizard" plane for one). Does anyone have any
>detailed information like photos, geometry, strength of spring
>to use, pluses and minuses?
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| Subject: | Re: Getting started scratch building a 701. |
Hit my first rookie scratch building milestone today - my rudder is complete. (All
except for a few rivets that need to be installed after the pre-cover inspection
is done.) It went really well, the rudder is straight and looks pretty
decent for my first try at aircraft construction. I think I'm hooked on airplane
building.
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Scratch building a 701.
Rudder complete.
www.mykitlog.com/rengler
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| Subject: | Gas springs on 701 bubble doors? |
Yes, please!
-- Craig
craig "at" craigandjean.com
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
max.johansson@nokia.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:12 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith701801-List: Gas springs on 701 bubble doors?
Craig,
the CZAW made 701s used gas door springs and they work really nicely.
There is even a -cz version of the ZAC drawing for this installation.
If you want I can send some photos and more detailed part information.
rgrds
Max
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On
>Behalf Of ext Craig Payne
>Sent: 19 May, 2008 07:49
>To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith701801-List: Gas springs on 701 bubble doors?
>
>--> <craig@craigandjean.com>
>
>I know that some 701s have gas springs to hold the doors up
>and open (the "Lizard" plane for one). Does anyone have any
>detailed information like photos, geometry, strength of spring
>to use, pluses and minuses?
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