---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/12/08: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:30 AM - Re: Fuel Systems (kmccune) 2. 06:40 AM - Re: Re: 801 Landing Light (n801bh@netzero.com) 3. 10:29 AM - Re: 801 Landing Light (n85ae) 4. 01:55 PM - Air Drill (Tommy Walker) 5. 02:17 PM - Re: Air Drill (John Marzulli) 6. 02:21 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Systems (carl) 7. 07:16 PM - Re: Fuel Systems (kmccune) 8. 08:17 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Systems (carl) 9. 08:49 PM - RE. Fuel Systems (Chuck Deiterich) 10. 11:13 PM - Re: Fuel Systems (jetboy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:03 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Fuel Systems From: "kmccune" Thank you for the info and pics. This is similar to what I was thinking of. My version came from the Brazilian STOL site, but the added volume of your "fuselage ?" tank with warnings and quasi gasolator is a better idea. A little known safety margin and added range, depending on size of tank, I was thinking 3 gallons and about 1/3 gallon left in sump when port to pump is uncovered. Let me know but I think picture that I'm attaching is pretty close to what you have. Kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187557#187557 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuel_system_121.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:58 AM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: 801 Landing Light You might get a look at it on some of the pics on my website. www.haaspo werair.com also it might show up on my new video thats up on the web. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7272451917550730841&hl=en if you need a close up pic I can head to the hangar and click a few off. Let me know. Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Coloradodan" wrote: com> Thanks Ben. Do you have any up close and personal shots of your mount. Super sharp plane by the way. Dan -------- Don't go looking for happiness...we'll find you. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187474#187474 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ____________________________________________________________ Click to get a free auto insurance quotes from top companies. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4tyCB8rCAMsCH0gmFvO vdEEirqFsS5EuP3851ekv9PFlg6BE/ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:10 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: 801 Landing Light From: "n85ae" On my Kitfox I made a bar that I attach across the fueslage bottom to my float attach points using clevis pins. I have three tabs welded to it and use Halogen driving lights on it. I have a quick disconnect plug so I can unplug the bar when not using it. Time on or off is about 2 minutes. On my 125hp Kitfox, I have flown it with three 6" Driving lights and don't notice any reduction in cruise or climb speed and I look like a 747 when on final approach to land. I feed the lamps via a 12V 60A relay. Here's a pic of the bar when I was in the process of first installing it http://www.aselia.com/n85ae/img0786.jpg Another nice thing is light reflected off the belly gives me great ground illumination in the flare. Particularly helpfull in a taildragger. Probably going to put a detachable light bar system on my 801 as well. I have wingtip halogens as well in the Kitfox but have never been happy with them. Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187614#187614 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:15 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Air Drill From: "Tommy Walker" Hi, I wonder if anyone has found a good deal on an air drill lately. Are the HF air drills reliable? Many thanks, Tommy Walker in Alabama Do Not Archive -------- Tommy Walker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187636#187636 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:17:05 PM PST US From: "John Marzulli" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Air Drill I have been using the Husky drill from Home Depot for most of the project. It works great and is readily available. DO NOT ARCHIVE John Marzulli http://701Builder.blogspot.com/ http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/ http://www.JohnMarzulli.net/ On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Tommy Walker wrote: > twalker@cableone.net> > > Hi, > > I wonder if anyone has found a good deal on an air drill lately. > > Are the HF air drills reliable? > > Many thanks, > > Tommy Walker in Alabama > > Do Not Archive > > -------- > Tommy Walker > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187636#187636 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:32 PM PST US From: "carl" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: Fuel Systems Kevin, Three gallons should be fine. I make your wing fuel 160 litters, or about 10 hrs in cruise for the R912; I presume you are using a bigger engine? Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "kmccune" Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:29 AM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Fuel Systems > > Thank you for the info and pics. This is similar to what I was thinking > of. My version came from the Brazilian STOL site, but the added volume of > your "fuselage ?" tank with warnings and quasi gasolator is a better > idea. A little known safety margin and added range, depending on size of > tank, I was thinking 3 gallons and about 1/3 gallon left in sump when port > to pump is uncovered. > > Let me know but I think picture that I'm attaching is pretty close to what > you have. > > Kevin > > -------- > Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the > things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the > bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your > sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187557#187557 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuel_system_121.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:52 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Fuel Systems From: "kmccune" No, sorry the drawing is from the Brazilian list and I guess that they had dual wing tanks sown as one! No, I was just asking if this basic layout is what you were describing? The drawing shows way too much fuel, unless your thinking about flying around the globe by yourself. The 3 gallons was a safe weight wise, amount to increase the range a little and to give better low fuel warnings with the tank. Kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187684#187684 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:44 PM PST US From: "carl" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: Fuel Systems Kevin It was a lot of fuel for a 701, an ocean crossing did come to mind. Everything looks fine and very close to my set-up. Transport Canada recommends 3/8" fuel lines as minimum, they claim 1/4" is too easy to block especially in winter. do not archive Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "kmccune" Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:16 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Fuel Systems > > No, sorry the drawing is from the Brazilian list and I guess that they had > dual wing tanks sown as one! No, I was just asking if this basic layout is > what you were describing? The drawing shows way too much fuel, unless your > thinking about flying around the globe by yourself. > The 3 gallons was a safe weight wise, amount to increase the range a > little and to give better low fuel warnings with the tank. > > Kevin > > -------- > Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the > things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the > bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your > sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187684#187684 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:51 PM PST US From: "Chuck Deiterich" Subject: RE. Zenith701801-List: Fuel Systems Carl, How do you vent your collector tank? Chuck D. N701TX Carl, A few weeks ago I looked at adding tall cylinder style header tanks to the baggage area on each side, where my fuel lines currently run down to my fuel selector located on the seat backrest between the seats. Possibility for safety and ease of construction was to use irrigation tubing 5" dia. and with the top end plate and bottom end plate set at a suitable angle 15 - 30 degs. with an intake pipe and outlet pipe welded in at the apex of each end. This to take care of the need to have as little air pocket / water trap as possible and not require separate vents. with height restricted to around 10" and this type of tubing I would get around 4.5 litres each side, this should alleviate the occasional unported low fuel wing tank situation I have experienced when doing steep descents or uncoordinated turns. It does get your attention! I haven't gone ahead with this mod yet, is there a perceived problem with not providing separate venting, as my plan was to avoid the fuel lines changing direction, should be going down all the way from tanks to the gascolator aft and below the seat level thence upwards towards the carb? This is how I was told a fuel system should be, no siphon / airlock traps. Regards, Ralph -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187698#187698 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith701801-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith701801-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith701801-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith701801-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.