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     1. 08:40 AM - Anti Vapour Lock Fuel System (carl)
     2. 07:58 PM - Re: Anti Vapour Lock Fuel System (jetboy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:40:46 AM PST US
    From: "carl" <b.carl@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Anti Vapour Lock Fuel System
    Since 1995 I fly a 701/912 combination. I have described the fuselage part of my fuel system and posted a few pictures earlier ------. Until 2006 the collector fed a gascolator in the engine compartment at the bottom of the firewall then split into two branches. The main branch went to the engine driven pump then back to a cross at the top rear of the engine. The other branch, which I call emergency fuel, went to an electric pump on the engine side of the firewall then to the cross. The two other connections on the cross fed the two carbs. Two sensors at the cross activate a fuel pressure gauge and a low pressure warning light on the panel.when pressure drops below 2 lbs. System operation was simple. I checked that both pumps produced nominal pressure and that the"LOW FUEL PRESS" warning light was operating during the start sequence. Readings were 4.5 lbs with engine pump only, and 5 lbs with electric or both pumps running. Emergency fuel was turned "ON" before T.O. and descent., and "OFF" at top of climb and after landing. It would also be selected if the main system failed.This system worked well for ten years until Ethanol was added to our mogas. During the summer of 2006 I noticed that when I shutoff the electric pump at the top of the climb the fuel pressure was dropping below the 4.5 lbs expected from the engine pump. I suspected the main pump was failing (11 years) so I purchased a new one. The drop in pressure remained and at times the low press warning light would come "ON" indicating that the pressure was below 2 lbs. The pressure recovered as soon as I reselected the emergency system and operated normally if I again turned the emergency system "OFF". After checking the complete system including flow checks I suspected vapour lock. I came to the following conclusion. When I selected the emergency system for T.O. the electric pump raised the pressure in the system from 4.5 to 5 lbs. The electric's higher pressure trumped the engine pump and it stopped pumping causing stagnation in the main branch of the system. This allowed temperature to build to a point the fuel in the engine pump vaporized. This then caused the unusual pressure drop when I selected emergency fuel "OFF". I was surprised how hot my engine pump gets. There is a lot of heat transferred to the pump from the drive and on a warm day after shutdown I can hear the fuel boiling the engine pump That was the situation last Summer when I decided to make changes. I could change to 100 low lead but prefer to use mogas if possible. Clearly the Ethanol blended fuel was absorbing too much heat before arriving or while in the engine pump. Stagnation in the main fuel branch when emergency fuel was selected aggravated the problem . I opted to: 1. minimize the number of fuel components in the engine compartment that could absorb heat; 2. eliminate the stagnation problem in the main pump; 3. isolate the remaining engine fuel system components to reduce heat transfer; and, 4. add a return line to circulate fresh fuel. This resulted in: 1. Removal of the firewall gascolator, and emergency circuit with its pump and filter from the engine compartment, 2. eliminating the parallel emergency system also helped solved the stagnation problem in the main pump, 3. isolating all lines and the remaining filter 4. adding a return line from the cross to the feed line that connects the right wing tank to the collector keeps fresh fuel in the engine part of the system. The present system is as follows: Gravity feed from one or both wing tanks (shut-off valves) to the collector tank behind the baggage compartment. (The collector and its drain also serves as a gascolator).Gravity feeds to a boost pump beside the door on the bottom of the rear fuselage then gravity or boost to the main fuel shut-off on the centre sub panel. (A bypass loop with a check valve is "T" eed in around the boost pump to allow gravity feed to bypass the boost pump when "OFF" see photo att). From the main shut-off, fuel feeds the engine pump through a filter then to the cross and the carbs. A 1/4" return line from the cross through a restrictor to a "T" in the feed line connecting the collector to the right wing tank circulate fresh fuel. The size of the restrictor in the return line I've is critical. 1/16" was too large and dropped fuel press. The one I have now is much better but could be smaller. I believe a return rate of about 1/4 litre per minute is a good compromise between maintaining adequate pressure and freshening the fuel. The system is not complete without good vents. Generally I like a balanced system, that is the same head pressure in all tanks. If you can vent from a high pressure area like under a wing all the better but be sure the positive pressure doesn't push fuel out somewhere like vented caps. The balanced vents reduces the possibility of fuel migration and siphoning. This can be achieved by interconnecting all the vent. I'm always trying new mods and I intend to try at least two more changes to the fuel system. Move the filter to between the engine pump and the cross to the carbs thereby reducing restrictions before the pump. The other is move the return line from the feed line to the vent line between the right wing and the collector and add a shut-off on the return line. This will prevent the possibility of introducing vapour in the feed to the collector and will permit shut-off of the return in an emergency. I've operated the new system since last Summer for about 25 flying hrs. Last Summer I still experienced some instances of fuel pressure drop below 4.5 lbs when the boost pump was shut-off. I attribute that to too high a rate of return fuel and/or possibly valve sequencing in the pumps and check valve when switching the boost pump off. In six hrs of flying this year the system has operated flawlessly in spite of the warm temperature last week (30C). So figure!!! the restrictor maybe partially clogged? I emphasize that I consider this fuel system very much experimental at this stage and will continue improving. and testing for at least 25 more hrs. I share it for general knowledge and critique good or bad. Sorry for the long post. Smooth landings Carl


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    Time: 07:58:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Anti Vapour Lock Fuel System
    From: "jetboy" <sanson.r@xtra.co.nz>
    Thanks Carl for part 2. Have you considered series connection for your fuel pumps? That is, to run the line from your header tank thru the electric boost pump (which by the look of it has through pass ability) then through to the engine driven pump and filter. As far as I know these pumps seldom fail thru blockage which is the only feature of a parallel system. Series connection is widely used in GA carburetted fuel systems. Ralph -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187934#187934




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