---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/30/08: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:43 AM - Monday Evening Chat Room Reminder (George Race) 2. 07:12 AM - CH801 WIng Incidence (n85ae) 3. 09:31 AM - Strut fairing materials (Cannon, Walt) 4. 11:58 AM - Re: Strut fairing materials (n85ae) 5. 12:31 PM - Re: CH801 WIng Incidence (n801bh@netzero.com) 6. 12:31 PM - Re: CH801 WIng Incidence (n801bh@netzero.com) 7. 12:35 PM - Re: Re: Strut fairing materials (n801bh@netzero.com) 8. 01:59 PM - Re: CH801 WIng Incidence (n85ae) 9. 04:01 PM - Re: Re: CH801 WIng Incidence (n801bh@netzero.com) 10. 10:21 PM - Re: Getting started scratch building a 701. (AB_Summit) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:44 AM PST US From: "George Race" Subject: Zenith701801-List: Monday Evening Chat Room Reminder Please join us for our Monday evening chat room starting around 8:00 PM Eastern Time. http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/ George CH-701 - N73EX ALMOST DONE Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:17 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: CH801 WIng Incidence From: "n85ae" I cannot find any mention about setting wing incidence when hanging the wings in the CH801 docs. Are they just hung on the attach fittings with the front and rear spar attach fitting simply centered? I would assume that the fueslage would be leveled fore and aft, and then the wings adjusted to level front to rear to match. However if this is the intent, it seems there should be some reference locations on the wing to use to verify it. Thanks, Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190547#190547 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:31:49 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Strut fairing materials From: "Cannon, Walt" All, I am interested in adding strut fairings to my CH701 before I finally get around to painting it. Seems like it is a good way to gain a few knots for free. I am interested in information related to the options following: 1) Names of any company's marketing the parts to accomplish adding fairings to the struts. I don't have a brake long enough to form the material. 2) If I can't find them pre-made, anyone with details of what you did relative to material thickness, radius of the LE bend, how far your bent it, and how you fastened at the trailing edge? 3) Has anyone use those plastic strut fairings? Thanks in Advance Walt Cannon ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:58:59 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Strut fairing materials From: "n85ae" On my Kitfox, I made templates and hotwired foam leading and trailing edges from foam, and then epoxied them in place, and layed up two layers of glass cloth over it using West Systems epoxy. A bit of work, but it came out very well. Here's a couple pics http://www.aselia.com/n85ae/lf2.jpg http://www.aselia.com/n85ae/lf4-800.jpg http://www.aselia.com/n85ae/im001458.jpg Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190596#190596 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:18 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: CH801 WIng Incidence Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "n85ae" wrote: I cannot find any mention about setting wing incidence when hanging the wings in the CH801 docs. Are they just hung on the attach fittings with the front and rear spar attach fitting simply centered? I would assume that the fueslage would be leveled fore and aft, and then the wings adjusted to level front to rear to match. However if this is t he intent, it seems there should be some reference locations on the wing to use to verify it. Thanks, Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190547#190547 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ____________________________________________________________ Get the shot you need with a discreet new spy camera. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4twdAXTjXS2z43ibQ3y yCD2e87J1K30KbLUkrAxeFZCN4EWm/ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:39 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: CH801 WIng Incidence Thats is what I did on my 801. The pad you have to drill to attach the f ront and rear spar is kinda small and leaves very little room for adjust ment. The real issue is edge distance and this is a HIGH stress area so I centered mine and it works ok. Most of us 801 builders had a forward s wept issue when we initally mounted the wings. I would bet yours will st art out that way too. do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "n85ae" wrote: I cannot find any mention about setting wing incidence when hanging the wings in the CH801 docs. Are they just hung on the attach fittings with the front and rear spar attach fitting simply centered? I would assume that the fueslage would be leveled fore and aft, and then the wings adjusted to level front to rear to match. However if this is t he intent, it seems there should be some reference locations on the wing to use to verify it. Thanks, Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190547#190547 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ____________________________________________________________ All is not lost! Click now for professional data recovery. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4ueVzwbaExOv4qcLTsZ HiapGjFOE1qA3fC72EeHx0Qwe1PCq/ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:55 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: Strut fairing materials This place sells the stuff. http://www.ultralightnews.ca/streamlinedfairings/1.html Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "n85ae" wrote: On my Kitfox, I made templates and hotwired foam leading and trailing edges from foam, and then epoxied them in place, and layed up two layers of glass cloth over it using West Systems epoxy. A bit of work, b ut it came out very well. Here's a couple pics http://www.aselia.com/n85ae/lf2.jpg http://www.aselia.com/n85ae/lf4-800.jpg http://www.aselia.com/n85ae/im001458.jpg Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190596#190596 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ____________________________________________________________ Get the shot you need with a discreet new spy camera. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4twdAvluGJWr9J2fcrp v6vbg5h13gyqWTU2mxtWSXpuUFB5w/ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:59:41 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: CH801 WIng Incidence From: "n85ae" That's what I thought, I talked to Caleb at Zenith, and he said the wing actually has 3 degrees which is built-in via the welded U at the forward attach. He said to level the fueslage, clamp the wings, and check for 3 degrees lift in the leading edge. Measured against the flattest part of the bottom of the wing. Probably not super critical as long as the wings are the same angle, and close to the 3 degrees. A tad off positive or negative probably goes away with trim/cg/etc. How did you fix the leading edge sweep? Just progressive trimming of the rear spar end? Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190612#190612 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:01:24 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: CH801 WIng Incidence Yes.. To fix the sweep just remove a little off the end of the rear spar . You will have to trim the wing skin in that area too. In hindsight I p robably should have left mine slightly swept cause it would have helped my heavier then normal front end.. do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "n85ae" wrote: That's what I thought, I talked to Caleb at Zenith, and he said the wing actually has 3 degrees which is built-in via the welded U at the forward attach. He said to level the fueslage, clamp the wings, and check for 3 degrees lift in the leading edge. Measured against the flattest part of the bottom of the wing. Probably not super critical as long as the wings are the same angle, and close to the 3 degrees. A tad off positive or negative probably goes away with trim/cg/etc. How did you fix the leading edge sweep? Just progressive trimming of the rear spar end? Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190612#190612 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ____________________________________________________________ Get Visual Basic Software and Training. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4s6GnG2nEJ783692efG dZxtWlpJNJdTBKogqCaSNhrio1pns/ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:21:10 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Getting started scratch building a 701. From: "AB_Summit" Got my second scratch built component done today, my elevator is now ready for it's pre-cover inspection. Here are a couple of pictures. Now I'll be moving on to the horizontal stabilizer. -------- Scratch building a 701. 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