---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/28/08: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:42 AM - My plans for the new 750 (stepinwolf) 2. 07:10 AM - More changes than 750 plans on Zenair site.... (SafeAirOne) 3. 08:33 AM - Re: The CH 750 has arrived!!! (kmccune) 4. 08:34 AM - Re: My plans for the new 750 (kmccune) 5. 08:45 AM - Re: Re: The CH 750 has arrived!!! (Carlos Sa) 6. 11:55 AM - Chat Room Reminder (George Race) 7. 01:14 PM - Re: My plans for the new 750 (Tommy Walker) 8. 03:22 PM - more engine options in CH750? (sundaypilot) 9. 04:26 PM - Re: more engine options in CH750? (John Marzulli) 10. 05:36 PM - Re: My plans for the new 750 (Gary Gower) 11. 06:23 PM - Re: My plans for the new 750 (kmccune) 12. 07:56 PM - Re: My plans for the new 750 (stepinwolf) 13. 08:16 PM - Re: Re: My plans for the new 750 (John Marzulli) 14. 08:40 PM - Jury Struts (txpilot) 15. 09:11 PM - Re: Jury Struts (Graeme) 16. 10:08 PM - photos at Osh of new aircraft (Jon Croke) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:14 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: My plans for the new 750 From: "stepinwolf" Since I need to keep my fingers active, I have just placed an order for a complete set of basic plans for the new CH-750, to be available within the next thirty days. I just got off the phone with the Zenith factory, and they told me that my order was the first they had received. I can't confirm that the number that will be issued to me will be the 001, but I'm working in it. One way or the other, just to have been told that mine was the first to come in, is good enough for me. :D I recently purchased a rather large quantity of the necessary aluminum, so I will have more then enough to complete both aircraft. Bob the 701 scratch Three Rivers, Quebec. # 7-7143 -------- Live each day, as if it was your last Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195336#195336 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:40 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: More changes than 750 plans on Zenair site.... From: "SafeAirOne" I just noticed that in addition to adding the 750 plans to the Zenair site, they have also revised their prices (upwardly) on the other stuff. I'm not sure about individual components, but the 701 plans have increased in price 21% to $425. Just another sign of the times.... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195340#195340 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:04 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: The CH 750 has arrived!!! From: "kmccune" I wonder if the tail section from a 701 would fit a 750, or if I could get any trade in value from my 701 plans [Laughing] I hope its at Oshkosh! Kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195355#195355 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:29 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: My plans for the new 750 From: "kmccune" Like my kids use to say... ya lucky! Congrats! Kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195356#195356 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:16 AM PST US From: "Carlos Sa" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: The CH 750 has arrived!!! The 750 brochure shows several measurements next to CH701 and CH801, so one can have an idea of size and differences: http://www.zenithair.com/stolch750/data/750-flyer-2page.pdf Carlos 2008/7/28 kmccune > > I wonder if the tail section from a 701 would fit a 750, or if I could get > any trade in value from my 701 plans [Laughing] > > > I hope its at Oshkosh! > > Kevin > > -------- > Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the > things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the > bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your > sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:55:14 AM PST US From: "George Race" Subject: Zenith701801-List: Chat Room Reminder Please join us for our Monday evening chat room starting around 8:00 PM Eastern Time. http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/ George CH-701 - N73EX ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:02 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: My plans for the new 750 From: "Tommy Walker" Note: my opinion follows so delete if you aren't interested in it. Actually I wish that they had just offered a 701B model that would have increased the usable weight. If what I heard is correct the usable weight on the 750 is going to be 500 lbs. I already got that. Well almost, I got 496 usable. I know there are several 701's with over 500. I saw a W&B on one 701 that showed empty weight as 547.... That looks like it will lift more than it's own weight. Oh well, I should just lose some more weight. In the last 10 years I went from a 170 lb pilot to a 210 lb pilot..... Definitely Do Not Archive Tommy Walker in Alabama -------- Tommy Walker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195401#195401 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:26 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: more engine options in CH750? From: "sundaypilot" Hi, I was once told that the Rotax 912(s) is the prefered choice for the 701 becasue it is watercooled and the 701 is too slow for aircooled engines (especially during those short TOs). I like the idea of having more options in the 750, but is it really that much faster? Or is the air-cooling more efficient because of the bigger cowling? Thanks, Thomas Spickermann, Hernandez, New Mexico Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195425#195425 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:26:17 PM PST US From: "John Marzulli" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: more engine options in CH750? There are a few factors here. 1) The 750 does have ~15mph more in cruise, so that will help with cooling BUT the cooling issue with the 701 has always been during Vx climb out 2) It is a physically larger plane, so the engines it can use can be heavier. The O-200 is above the maximum install weight for a 701, but within the limits for the 750. DO NOT ARCHIVE. John Marzulli http://701Builder.blogspot.com/ http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/ http://www.JohnMarzulli.net/ On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:22 PM, sundaypilot wrote: > sundaypilot@cybermesa.com> > > Hi, > > I was once told that the Rotax 912(s) is the prefered choice for the 701 > becasue it is watercooled and the 701 is too slow for aircooled engines > (especially during those short TOs). > I like the idea of having more options in the 750, but is it really that > much faster? Or is the air-cooling more efficient because of the bigger > cowling? > > Thanks, > > Thomas Spickermann, Hernandez, New Mexico > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195425#195425 > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:36:57 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: My plans for the new 750 I bet you also got the new iPhone....--:-)- :-)- :-)-- - Just joking,,,,-- Congratulations Bob. - Now...- Who-is going for the first Kit?-- ;-) - Saludos Gary Gower Do not archive. --- On Mon, 7/28/08, stepinwolf wrote: From: stepinwolf Subject: Zenith701801-List: My plans for the new 750 Since I need to keep my fingers active, I have just placed an order for a complete set of basic plans for the new CH-750, to be available within the next thirty days. I just got off the phone with the Zenith factory, and they to ld me that my order was the first they had received. I can't confirm that the number that will be issued to me will be the 001, but I'm working in it. One way or the other, just to have been told that mine was the first to come in, is good enough for me. :D I recently purchased a rather large quantity of the necessary aluminum, so I will have more then enough to complete both aircraft. Bob the 701 scratch Three Rivers, Quebec. # 7-7143 -------- Live each day, as if it was your last Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195336#195336 ============0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:23:14 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: My plans for the new 750 From: "kmccune" I feel the same way, I mean I really like the new cabin details, but its just an evolved 701. The higher Vne and engine weight are nice, but they mostly added weight to get to a higher gross and Vne. I have read someplace that Chris said that the 701 design was as far as it could go? My guess is its a marketing thing? who knows, I do really like the new cabin as I said , but not sure its in the cards for me... unless they take me up on that trade in idea for plans and a tail section [Laughing] Kevin do not archive, its just me after all... blabbing on and on again! Tommy Walker wrote: > Note: my opinion follows so delete if you aren't interested in it. > > Actually I wish that they had just offered a 701B model that would have increased the usable weight. If what I heard is correct the usable weight on the 750 is going to be 500 lbs. I already got that. Well almost, I got 496 usable. I know there are several 701's with over 500. I saw a W&B on one 701 that showed empty weight as 547.... That looks like it will lift more than it's own weight. > > Tommy Walker in Alabama -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195460#195460 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:24 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: My plans for the new 750 From: "stepinwolf" No Iphone for me Gary, because at my age, I kind'a like things with only two buttons ie. start-stop, on-off, open-close, etc. I think you get the idea. The MAIN reason I jumped at the chance to build the 750, is to be able to use a low revving, affordable, correct aircraft engine. I am already looking locally for something around 125Hp Do not archive Bob the 701 scratch Three Rivers, Quebec. # 7-7143 & # ?-???? BTW Tommy, the specs on the Zenith web-page show a usable weight of 545 lbs, not 500 -------- Live each day, as if it was your last Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195477#195477 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:16:11 PM PST US From: "John Marzulli" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: My plans for the new 750 It almost seems like the O-235 would be a great choice. Between all the 150s and 152s out there a O-200 with high compression cylinders or O-235 should be an easy find. BTW, the iPhone only has two buttons, not including volume up/down.. DO NOT ARCHIVE! John Marzulli http://701Builder.blogspot.com/ http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/ http://www.JohnMarzulli.net/ On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:53 PM, stepinwolf wrote: > robert.pelland@cgocable.ca> > > No Iphone for me Gary, because at my age, I kind'a like things with only > two buttons ie. start-stop, on-off, open-close, etc. I think you get the > idea. > > The MAIN reason I jumped at the chance to build the 750, is to be able to > use a low revving, affordable, correct aircraft engine. I am already > looking locally for something around 125Hp > > Do not archive > > Bob the 701 scratch > Three Rivers, Quebec. > # 7-7143 & # ?-???? > > BTW Tommy, the specs on the Zenith web-page show a usable weight of 545 > lbs, not 500 > > -------- > Live each day, as if it was your last > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195477#195477 > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:40:25 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Jury Struts From: "txpilot" I'm currently working on my jury struts and wondering how important are the strut caps. Are these actual structural members, or could I just use Superfil on the tube ends? How the heck do you get them on anyway? Is the intent to file them down until they barely squeeze in the tube end? I wish ZAC had some reference to this on the builder's page. Thanks, Dan Ginty N787DG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195485#195485 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:59 PM PST US From: "Graeme" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Jury Struts If you are talking about the jury strut insert (rectangle of alloy) they are important. these allow the bolts to tighten onto jury strut without crushing. the early model 701 was just crushed flat on the end then bolted up these were very fragile and could break while they were off the plane if moved too much. Just mark your tube along length for oreintation the you can use a vice to get a rough rectangular section on end, then linish a lead in and gently drive spacer up tube if it won't go without damaging tube linish slightly also radius corners. try a couple of pieces of scrap first. Graemecns ----- Original Message ----- From: "txpilot" Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Jury Struts > > I'm currently working on my jury struts and wondering how important are > the strut caps. Are these actual structural members, or could I just use > Superfil on the tube ends? > > How the heck do you get them on anyway? Is the intent to file them down > until they barely squeeze in the tube end? I wish ZAC had some reference > to this on the builder's page. > > Thanks, > > Dan Ginty > N787DG > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195485#195485 > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > 5:13 PM > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:08:03 PM PST US From: "Jon Croke" Subject: Zenith701801-List: photos at Osh of new aircraft Monday's visit to the Zenith Booth at Osh Airventure and Photos of the new aircraft at www.zenair.org Enjoy! do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith701801-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith701801-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith701801-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith701801-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.