Zenith701801-List Digest Archive

Tue 07/29/08


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 06:32 AM - Re: More changes than 750 plans on Zenair site.... (Iberplanes IGL)
     2. 08:33 AM - Re: The CH 750 has arrived!!! - The 701/750 rudder is the SAME! (Paddy O'Malley)
     3. 12:45 PM - 801 Landings (Coloradodan)
     4. 02:00 PM - Re: The CH 750 has arrived!!! - The 701/750 rudder is the SAME! (kmccune)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:32:53 AM PST US
    From: "Iberplanes IGL" <iberplanes@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: More changes than 750 plans on Zenair site....
    701 vs 750 has a price increased of 32 % 2008/7/28 SafeAirOne <safeairone@verizon.net> > safeairone@verizon.net> > > I just noticed that in addition to adding the 750 plans to the Zenair site, > they have also revised their prices (upwardly) on the other stuff. I'm not > sure about individual components, but the 701 plans have increased in price > 21% to $425. Just another sign of the times.... > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195340#195340 > > -- Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ---------------------------------------------- Zodiac 601 XL Builder Serial: 6-7011 Tail Kit: Finished Wings: Not Started Fuselage: Ordered Engine: Jabiru 3300


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    Time: 08:33:53 AM PST US
    From: "Paddy O'Malley" <flicka401@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: The CH 750 has arrived!!! - The 701/750 rudder
    is the SAME! " I wonder if the tail section from a 701 would fit a 750, or if I could get any trade in value from my 701 plans [Laughing] " The CH-750 is 0.020", and the CH-701 0.016", I'm assuming that is for all sheet-metal on the air-frame. I'm glad they beefed it up, I always thought 16-thou was like tin- foil. My guess is not much will map back & forth ( 701<!=>750). Note also the width of the mains on the CH-750 is narrower, I wonder if they beefed the springs? Or just reduced the fulcrum? They say they improved the landing gear for the additional weight. BUT WHAT DID THEY DO? It's really not fun guessing, and reverse engineering. Is this obfuscation just to slow down the competition? Or confuse the FAA? All marketing glad to see a CH-701 class airplane finally able to carry a USA aircraft engine, that you don't have to hand-prop. This will open up a whole new market for zenith. With the dollar going down, the rotax will just keep going up. I really wish we didn't have to 'guess' these things, that zenith would just answer questions, and publish engineering data to customers. I would like to see the glide speed with no-engine on the CH-750, with the wider wing's it should be interesting to note the difference in glide-speed and glide-ratio, compared to the ch-701. I see a lot of 'frankenstein' 701's around, I think the 750 will be targeted towards the money as no-object market, where a guy wants a real airplane. It's clear the 750 will be 50% premium for the addition +4-thou sheet-metal, and standard bubble doors. I think the 701 market will go the younger hobby poor crowd, and the 750 will go to the builder-assist retirement crowd. Makes perfect sense, one group wants rock solid reliability, and the other just wants to fly and have fun. Vans 'builder-assist' folks are charging up to $1200/day to assist, I think that the ch-750 is a door into to that world like the RV-12. It's good to see so many scratch builders in this forum, the growth market in this business is 60+ retirement crowd that is more than willing to spend $60k or more. The RV-12 will cost more than the RV-9, so these LSA's may be light, but they're not cheaper. One reason I like the zenith crowd is they're regular people, I hope the intro into this market doesn't start making snob's out of CH owners. I JUST GOT A CONFIRM FROM ZENITH, THE RUDDER FOR THE 750&701 is the same. Paddy O'Malley flicka401@gmail.com


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    Time: 12:45:07 PM PST US
    Subject: 801 Landings
    From: "Coloradodan" <dfanning1@gmail.com>
    Guys, Here is a link to some 801 landings my buddy made. These are his very first in an 801. Lucky for me he did a pretty good job. The 2nd video to last had a 8.5 pucker factor for me filming and him landing. All in all not very bad for a first try. http://picasaweb.google.com/N130WM/801Landings -------- 1.5 hours of taxi time. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195599#195599


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    Time: 02:00:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: The CH 750 has arrived!!! - The 701/750 rudder
    is the SAME!
    From: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>
    Wow talk about cut and paste! :) Like I said in the rest of my post, maybe its just marketing. I'll ask about the tail section though. And don't forget, the really penny pinching of us.... me, will still opt for the 701 with the SVS1300 for GPH alone. I do really like the cabin, but I'd rather have have a 701HD. Kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195615#195615




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