---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/06/08: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:39 AM - Re: The CH 750 has arrived!!! - The 701/750 rudder is the SAME! (PatrickW) 2. 08:00 AM - 801 Front Side Skins (n85ae) 3. 05:20 PM - Re: 801 Front Side Skins (n801bh@netzero.com) 4. 06:29 PM - Build sequence for 801 (bcchurch) 5. 06:37 PM - rivet squeezer (Carlos Sa) 6. 07:41 PM - Re: rivet squeezer (John Lenhardt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:27 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: The CH 750 has arrived!!! - The 701/750 rudder is the SAME! From: "PatrickW" I'm 6'3" and the 750 was a good comfortable fit for me. Leg room is usually the problem, but the 750 was fine. If I were looking for a project right now, the 750 would be on the short list for sure. You guys are going to have a good time with this one. - Pat -------- Patrick 601XL/Corvair N63PZ (reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=196860#196860 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:57 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: 801 Front Side Skins From: "n85ae" Help! Any suggestions for bending the cabin front side skins (8F14-3)? I have made a mess out of trying to bend the first one. The sharp 90 which transisition's to the curved form leading to the firewall is NOT a shape the aluminum sheet is happy to conform into. Thanks, Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=196896#196896 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:18 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: 801 Front Side Skins That is probably the second hardest piece to fabricate outside of the wi ng root fairing. What most of us did was to establish the tight 90 degre e bend and then nest it into its home, from there you can bend the incre asing radius in the aluminum till it conforms to the firewall. It is a p ain in the butt though. One of us earlier builders even went as far as t o build a die and try to form the piece around it. The memory of the she et alum was too great to overcome. It was a good idea though.. Good lu ck. do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "n85ae" wrote: Help! Any suggestions for bending the cabin front side skins (8F14-3)? I have made a mess out of trying to bend the first one. The sharp 90 which transisition's to the curved form leading to the firewall is NOT a shape the aluminum sheet is happy to conform into. Thanks, Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=196896#196896 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ____________________________________________________________ Protecting your belongings! Affordable Renters Insurance. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4tEwUL5vxlD4JGc2Yww SeFpnMebgBK79bfb2mh2pkcZINjS6/ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:30 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Build sequence for 801 From: "bcchurch" I'm looking for some advice about build sequence. Should the wings be made prior to the slats / flaperons, vice versa, or is it unimportant? I read ahead in the manual but nothing jumped out at me saying one needs to come first. Any advice from those that have already been there would be great. The tail section is nearly done and I'm looking to move to the next component - and I'm just trying to figure out what to do next. Regards, Ben do not archive -------- Ben Church CH801 Racine, WI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=197026#197026 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:49 PM PST US From: "Carlos Sa" Subject: Zenith701801-List: rivet squeezer Hello, all I intend to buy a (manual) rivet squeezer (so far I have borrowed one), and I would appreciate to read about your experiences with these tools: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/handrivetsqueezer.php http://www.ustool.com/usstore.asp?WCI=wciViewItem&WCE=90997s http://www.ustool.com/usstore.asp?WCI=wciViewItem&WCE=90995s http://tinyurl.com/58baoc (aviation tools, eBay store) (Brown Tools seems to be offline, and Avery's squeezer is too expensive http://www.averytools.com/p-497-avery-hand-rivet-squeezers.aspx ) Thanks for your comments do not archive (yet) Carlos CH601-HD Montreal, Canada ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:03 PM PST US From: "John Lenhardt" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: rivet squeezer A good tool is never cheap. The squeezers you list except for Avery all use proprietary yokes. The Avery squeezer uses the same yokes the pneumatic squeezers use. These are high quality yokes you can buy most anywhere, but better yet you can BORROW from other builders. If you have any RV builders in your area, many use pneumatic squeezers (they squeezers tens of thousands of rivets). Those that don't tend to have either the Avery or Cleaveland tool kits that also use the pneumatic yokes. If you need to squeeze many, but not a lot (I know it's all relative), I recommend the Cleaveland tools "Main Squeeze" (see link below). It is 30% lighter in weight & 65% less effort required and, yes, it's true. I've used it. I also own the Avery hand squeezer and a pneumatic squeezer. BTW, the Avery squeezer comes with quick change yoke pins and, more importantly, an adjustable set holder that is strong enough to be used in pneumatic squeezer. That will make setting up the squeezer a lot easier. When building and eventually, flying your aircraft, you'll still need to have tools for repair and maintenance. I understand this is an expensive purchase for you, but it is really an investment. The ability to use "standard" yokes will make the tool total investment less and, if you want or need to, you can more easily sell it/them. Lastly, the first two squeezers on your list are only $9 and $0 Dollars different from the Avery Squeezer (ignoring the exchange rate). http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SCH22 Good Luck with your build, John Oh yeah, former RV-6A builder....I know about squeezing rivets.... :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos Sa Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: rivet squeezer Hello, all I intend to buy a (manual) rivet squeezer (so far I have borrowed one), and I would appreciate to read about your experiences with these tools: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/handrivetsqueezer.php http://www.ustool.com/usstore.asp?WCI=wciViewItem&WCE=90997s http://www.ustool.com/usstore.asp?WCI=wciViewItem&WCE=90995s http://tinyurl.com/58baoc (aviation tools, eBay store) (Brown Tools seems to be offline, and Avery's squeezer is too expensive http://www.averytools.com/p-497-avery-hand-rivet-squeezers.aspx ) Thanks for your comments Carlos CH601-HD Montreal, Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith701801-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith701801-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith701801-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith701801-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.