---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/24/08: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:02 AM - Chat Room Reminder For "Digesters" (George Race) 2. 07:33 AM - Re: CH-701 + Jabiru 3300 - why is zenusa (Tommy Walker) 3. 07:35 AM - 701 Engine Selection (Jim Fosse) 4. 10:03 AM - Re: 701 Engine Selection (gburdett) 5. 01:51 PM - 701/Jab 2200 (was) CH-701 + Jabiru 3300 - why is zenusa & zencan different? (T. Graziano) 6. 09:47 PM - Wing root fuel/elec/pitot connections (Victor Menkal) 7. 10:20 PM - Re: First Flight Pictures of N73EX (eightyknots) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:48 AM PST US From: "George Race" Subject: Zenith701801-List: Chat Room Reminder For "Digesters" Please join us for our Monday evening chat room starting around 8:00 PM Eastern Time. http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/ George CH-701 - N73EX - IT FLYS! Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:06 AM PST US From: "Tommy Walker" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: CH-701 + Jabiru 3300 - why is zenusa DO NOT ARCHIVE.. Flicka750, Welcome to the Zenith 701/801 list. I hope you are able to get the information that you are looking for and that you build the world's greatest homebuilt. I wish I were able to help you as you gather information about which plane/engine combination is best. It may be possible that CAN-ZAC is a franchise of Zenith Air, or ZenAir, or whatever it's called and lists all the engines that you can bolt onto the front of a 701 firewall. I can't speak for Mark T. but I've found him to be open and forthright about responding to questions. I doubt many of the regular builders here have enough information about the 750 to make intelligent responses. I think you asked if any of the listers were scientists or engineers. I am not a scientist or engineer but my father was an engineer. He worked for Southern Railway for 40 years. Started out as a fireman, shoveling coal into those big steam engine boiler fireboxes. He later became a diesel locomotive engineer and kept his hand on the throttle until retirement. :-) I never could do anything so I became a school teacher. As Woody Allen said, ".them that can't, teach. Them that can't teach, teach gym.." I was obviously educated beyond my intelligence and proved it. :-) :-( I am enjoying building my second 701 though. If light is your goal, you can't go wrong with the STOL 701. I have a friend in Tennessee who is building a 701 with an O-200 as his engine source. He doesn't post on this list but does read it, I believe. So, there are 701's with O-200's. A used Continental was my second choice for the 701 I'm building now, primarily due to availability and cost. I found a good 912ULS though and went with that. I would bet that the Jabiru would be a great engine match for the 750, not sure about the 701, but James in Arizona has made it work. That is a lot of power for the lowly 701, isn't it? But I guess you can't have too much of a good thing. Like I said earlier, we have 496 lbs left for fuel and crew, so we can fly longer than we want to sit in a 701. I wish I could lay out some exact figures for you to help you along your path, but again, I'm not that smart. Tommy Walker in Alabama Starting annual on N8701 tomorrow. DO NOT ARCHIVE. Do Not Pass Go Vote Democrat - it's easier than working! Vote Republican - it's easier than thinking! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:35:19 AM PST US From: "Jim Fosse" Subject: Zenith701801-List: 701 Engine Selection I've been following the discussion about the Jab 3300 and the 912S and would like to offer the following as another possibility for an engine. I have ordered a Rotamax rotary engine to replace my Suzuki 1.6L. No experience with the engine and operating on blind faith and the spirit of experimental aviation. Look at the engine at www.rotamax.net and I think you will be impressed with its potential. Jim Fosse N329F rota ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:11 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: 701 Engine Selection From: "gburdett" Good on you , Jim. As you said, that's why their called experimental. I saw the demo at Osh, really large rotors and they are flying in a couple of aircraft they said. If you live anywhere near Ohio, they might cut a deal to to use your craft as a test bed. Good Luck. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0269#200269 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:51:50 PM PST US From: "T. Graziano" Subject: Zenith701801-List: 701/Jab 2200 (was) CH-701 + Jabiru 3300 - why is zenusa & zencan different? I flew my 601XL/Jab3300 down to Shelbyville, Tn for an EAA breakfast yesterday and saw a beautiful 701 being flown by Pete of Jab USA (I believe Pete said it first flew Friday 22 August). It had Jab 2200 ((Eight-five (85)horsepower)) engine installed. See http://www.usjabiru.com/zenithch701.html This is probably the same airplane, except the one Pete was flying was painted and beautifully finished. I asked Pete if a 3300 would be better and his reply was (if I recall correctly) that for the 701 you really do not need the power of the 3300. That Jab sure did sound sweet and take-off was .. SHORT.. like a 701 does best. If I were building a 701, I would seriously consider the Jab 2200, based on my experience with the Jab 3300. Tony Graziano 601XL; N493TG; 414 hrs behind a purring Jab 3300. --------------------------------------- Re: CH-701 + Jabiru 3300 - why is zenusa & zencan different? From: MacDonald Doug (dougsnash@yahoo.com) Date: Fri Aug 22 - 9:40 AM ........................... ............................................... "Jabiru USA however, endorses the 3300 on the 701 because they want to sell us 701 builders the more expensive engine. ....................... ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Now the 80hp Jabiru is a bit cheaper that either of the 912 Rotaxes but they have lost quite a bit of their price advantage over the last few years. Personally, I would not have even considered the Jabiru 80hp as a STOL engine but I have to admit the pictures of George Race's first flight that he just posted shows that it is capable of getting off the ground very quickly. I now have significanly more respect for this installation." ................................. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:47:12 PM PST US From: Victor Menkal Subject: Zenith701801-List: Wing root fuel/elec/pitot connections Hi gang. Would greatly appreciate any advice on connections for fuel/elec and pitot lines at wing root. 1)where is the best place to make the connections to make wing instal and removal as easy as possible? 2) what type of connectors are best for the different types of lines? Thanx Vic Do not archive Victor Menkal,P.Eng. Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada vmenkal@mac.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:20:23 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: First Flight Pictures of N73EX From: "eightyknots" Hello George, I am using my first ever post on Matronics to congratulate you on your achievement. I am also considering building a STOL plane starting next year and may very well be a 701. The plane looks really great and the take-off and landing pictures are fantastic. Regards, Hank -------- Hank I am looking for a STOL plane to build, starting in 2009. Will it be an ICP Savannah, a Zenith CH-701, an Aeroprakt Foxbat/A22?Valor, etc ... ? 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