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1. 12:37 AM - Re: CanZac floats (mwpicard)
2. 09:16 AM - Christopher Lewis are you out there? (Cannon, Walt)
3. 12:53 PM - Ignition Noise (George Race)
4. 01:16 PM - Re: Ignition Noise (Roy Szarafinski)
5. 01:22 PM - Off topic reapirmans cert (kmccune)
6. 05:19 PM - Increasing Registered Gross (Victor Menkal)
7. 05:32 PM - 2200 in 701 (Tracy)
8. 08:15 PM - Re: 2200 in 701 (T. Graziano)
9. 10:31 PM - Re: Increasing Registered Gross (jetboy)
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Subject: | Re: CanZac floats |
Alvin,
I saw your post regarding the unreasonable delays in your order for 3 wheel Amphib
floats from CanZac.
I am in exactly your situation. Mark Townsend also promised me the floats would
be delivered more than 2 months ago and also assured me that I was at the top
of the list. In my case though, Mark did take a deposit. He also told me that
mine have been in the gig for ages. Maybe he has many gigs...
Today I wrote him an email canceling my order.
I was very disappointed to have to cancel as I am shipping the plane overseas
and the floats were to be shipped with the plane. And, Alvin, in your case you
missed out on a whole summer of float plane flying.
Mark seems unable to be pinned down and there is no certainty at all about if and
when one would actually receive these floats. He answered Alvins post but
ignores emails from me asking for delivery dates etc.
I also am researching alternatives. Anyone know of possible CH701 amphib float
suppliers asides from those Alvin mentioned?
Alvin, maybe we could purchase 2 sets at the same time and get some economies of
scale. Feel free to contact me directly.
There probably are other Mark Townsend customers out there that will give up hope
soon. Anyone else need to join us?
Just a note in defense of Mark. I ordered faired struts for the CH701 from him
and though there was a huge delay in delivery due to some shipping problems,
the product and workmanship was excellent. I think Mark is truly good at what
he does and maybe these delays are that he simply is in too much demand. He also
clearly means well and is clearly an asset to the Zenith community. Mark,
give us firm delivery dates and commit to penalties if you dont meet them. Maybe
that will win back our business.
Martin Picard
CH701 currently in California en route to Australia (by ship!)
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Subject: | Christopher Lewis are you out there? |
Hello Chris,
I am a CH701 owner, builder, flyer in Seattle. Tried to E-mail you off
line, but got "no address exists" note back. Please send me an E-mail
off line.
Walt Cannon
Do not archive
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I am getting a lot more ignition noise than I like in my Icom COM Radio.
The noise is so bad that most of the time it is opening the squelch on the
radio and I am listening to just noise!
I read somewhere that putting in resistor plugs may solve the problem. I
was looking at my ignition wiring today and noticed that it say "noise
suppression wire" or something like that on the bright red plug and coil
leads. Would it still be OK to add resistor plugs with the wire already
being noise suppression type?
Anybody have any other ideas that I could try?
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Subject: | Re: Ignition Noise |
George, resistor plus would be ok. capacitors at the coil primary if you have auto
type coils and one at the alternator. Jabaru is whom I would contact first
incase for some reason caps are incompatible.
Roy 701-plans
----- Original Message ----
From: George Race <mykitairplane@mrrace.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:52:59 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Ignition Noise
I am getting a lot
more ignition noise than I like in my Icom COM Radio.
The noise is so bad
that most of the time it is opening the squelch on the radio and I am listening
to just noise!
I read somewhere
that putting in resistor plugs may solve the problem. I was looking at my
ignition wiring today and noticed that it say "noise suppression wire" or
something like that on the bright red plug and coil leads. Would it still
be OK to add resistor plugs with the wire already being noise suppression
type?
Anybody have any
other ideas that I could try?
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Subject: | Off topic reapirmans cert |
If you purchase an 80 % complete kit, can you get a repairman's cert, by attending
the 16 hr class? Would there be any other distinctions between this and building
it yourself?
Kevin
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Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
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Subject: | Increasing Registered Gross |
Thanx for the info Mark. Gives me a better idea of what increasing
the gross weight means in terms in real terms. Im really treading
softly with this until I can thoroughly understand what this change
means in terms of satety and performance
I have a newer kit with a gross of 1100lbs and ULF of +6 and -3. If
I am using Chris Heinz's formula correctly, I believe that an increase
to 1200lbs will decrease my ULF to +5.5 and -2.75. Based on my
(very limited) knowledge, this still seems quite decent.
My research into this has a practical application as flying up here
requires carrying full survival gear and folks generally dress in
heavy clothing when outside (gets a bit chilly at times). These
items quickly eat into useful load.
My next research topic is to how my proposed increased gross combined
with the extra weight of floats will impact on safety and performance.
If I may pose a question to float equipped 701 operators: what was
the net weight increase with floats (weight of floats less weight of
removed landing gear) and impact on performance with your specific
type of floats This information will be very helpful in deciding on
the type of floats to select for the plane, when that happy day arrives.
One last question (honest): as useful load is important to all
pilots, why wouldnt most builders register at the higher gross weight?
Thanx for all help folks and on an unrelated topic (apologies if this
is not allowed) my thoughts and prayers are with anyone who may be in
the way of Gustav. Please stay safe and if its really nasty well be
down with our little aid agency (aidrelief.org) to lend a hand.
Warmest Regards
Victor Menkal
Whitehorse Yukon
701 tail complete, wings being covered
Victor.
You can change the gross weight to what ever you want. You will need to
change the load factor in your POH. I have the old kit and have made
most of the changes to the SP, but not all. What I have done is, using
Chris's calculations on the drawings, I will be using an 1100 lbs gross
weight with a load factor of +3.5 and -1.7. Rather than the +4 and -2.
This will give me the same load on the aircraft.
Mark S.
701/912ULS
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has anyone had any experiance with the 2200 in the 701?
does it work being direct drive?
does it have enough tourqe?
what prop do you use?
thanks
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Check with Pete of Jab USA ( http://www.usjabiru.com/ ). I was in
Shelbyville, Tn last Sat for an EAA breakfast and Pete was flying (2nd
flight) a really nice looking 701 with a Jab 2200. Sure did sound neat. I
believe it may have Jab USA (modified?/ improved?) cowling for better
cooling. Although it was a hot day, Pete said there was no problem with
CHTs.
Tony Graziano
Jab3300/Zodiac601XL; 415 hrs
Tony Graziano
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracy" <pbuttles@charter.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:32 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: 2200 in 701
>
> has anyone had any experiance with the 2200 in the 701?
> does it work being direct drive?
> does it have enough tourqe?
> what prop do you use?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Increasing Registered Gross |
You also must change the POH and airspeed placard limits because vne, vfe, va are
related to operations at design gross, will be lower for overgross, and what
might be experienced in gust load conditions.
The fact that guidance is provided for these operations does not mean that the
aircraft is legal or approved in all situations and juristictions and like practically
any aircraft the 701 does not handle too well over gross and please remember
the airfoil has not changed since the max gross was 880 lbs in '86 AFAIK
I also like to carry extra clothing and gear so what I did is not fit any cockpit
stuff thats not required for the mission, no extra lights, drill holes in tools
and safety gear to cut weight where posible, no axe - just folding saw Silky
or Gerber instead, If I were doing it again I'd consider not painting the
aircraft
Also if you read carefully the latest recommendation on controls limitations for
the 601XL, the same cautions would apply to a 701 over gross. Because these
"advanced ultralights" by definition had to be designed light, there is practically
zero margin left, over time the skins will wrinle and get weaker, its entirely
up to the operator to look after his arse
Ralph
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Ralph - CH701 / 2200a
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