Zenith701801-List Digest Archive

Sat 08/30/08


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:37 AM - Re: CanZac floats (mwpicard)
     2. 09:16 AM - Christopher Lewis are you out there? (Cannon, Walt)
     3. 12:53 PM - Ignition Noise (George Race)
     4. 01:16 PM - Re: Ignition Noise (Roy Szarafinski)
     5. 01:22 PM - Off topic reapirmans cert (kmccune)
     6. 05:19 PM - Increasing Registered Gross (Victor Menkal)
     7. 05:32 PM - 2200 in 701 (Tracy)
     8. 08:15 PM - Re: 2200 in 701 (T. Graziano)
     9. 10:31 PM - Re: Increasing Registered Gross (jetboy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:37:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: CanZac floats
    From: "mwpicard" <mwpicard@gmail.com>
    Alvin, I saw your post regarding the unreasonable delays in your order for 3 wheel Amphib floats from CanZac. I am in exactly your situation. Mark Townsend also promised me the floats would be delivered more than 2 months ago and also assured me that I was at the top of the list. In my case though, Mark did take a deposit. He also told me that mine have been in the gig for ages. Maybe he has many gigs... Today I wrote him an email canceling my order. I was very disappointed to have to cancel as I am shipping the plane overseas and the floats were to be shipped with the plane. And, Alvin, in your case you missed out on a whole summer of float plane flying. Mark seems unable to be pinned down and there is no certainty at all about if and when one would actually receive these floats. He answered Alvins post but ignores emails from me asking for delivery dates etc. I also am researching alternatives. Anyone know of possible CH701 amphib float suppliers asides from those Alvin mentioned? Alvin, maybe we could purchase 2 sets at the same time and get some economies of scale. Feel free to contact me directly. There probably are other Mark Townsend customers out there that will give up hope soon. Anyone else need to join us? Just a note in defense of Mark. I ordered faired struts for the CH701 from him and though there was a huge delay in delivery due to some shipping problems, the product and workmanship was excellent. I think Mark is truly good at what he does and maybe these delays are that he simply is in too much demand. He also clearly means well and is clearly an asset to the Zenith community. Mark, give us firm delivery dates and commit to penalties if you dont meet them. Maybe that will win back our business. Martin Picard CH701 currently in California en route to Australia (by ship!) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1577#201577


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    Time: 09:16:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Christopher Lewis are you out there?
    From: "Cannon, Walt" <walt.cannon@boeing.com>
    Hello Chris, I am a CH701 owner, builder, flyer in Seattle. Tried to E-mail you off line, but got "no address exists" note back. Please send me an E-mail off line. Walt Cannon Do not archive


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    Time: 12:53:23 PM PST US
    From: "George Race" <mykitairplane@mrrace.com>
    Subject: Ignition Noise
    I am getting a lot more ignition noise than I like in my Icom COM Radio. The noise is so bad that most of the time it is opening the squelch on the radio and I am listening to just noise! I read somewhere that putting in resistor plugs may solve the problem. I was looking at my ignition wiring today and noticed that it say "noise suppression wire" or something like that on the bright red plug and coil leads. Would it still be OK to add resistor plugs with the wire already being noise suppression type? Anybody have any other ideas that I could try?


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    Time: 01:16:35 PM PST US
    From: Roy Szarafinski <rvickski@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Ignition Noise
    George, resistor plus would be ok. capacitors at the coil primary if you have auto type coils and one at the alternator. Jabaru is whom I would contact first incase for some reason caps are incompatible. Roy 701-plans ----- Original Message ---- From: George Race <mykitairplane@mrrace.com> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:52:59 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Ignition Noise I am getting a lot more ignition noise than I like in my Icom COM Radio. The noise is so bad that most of the time it is opening the squelch on the radio and I am listening to just noise! I read somewhere that putting in resistor plugs may solve the problem. I was looking at my ignition wiring today and noticed that it say "noise suppression wire" or something like that on the bright red plug and coil leads. Would it still be OK to add resistor plugs with the wire already being noise suppression type? Anybody have any other ideas that I could try?


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    Time: 01:22:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Off topic reapirmans cert
    From: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>
    If you purchase an 80 % complete kit, can you get a repairman's cert, by attending the 16 hr class? Would there be any other distinctions between this and building it yourself? Kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1646#201646


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    Time: 05:19:20 PM PST US
    From: Victor Menkal <vmenkal@mac.com>
    Subject: Increasing Registered Gross
    Thanx for the info Mark. Gives me a better idea of what increasing the gross weight means in terms in real terms. Im really treading softly with this until I can thoroughly understand what this change means in terms of satety and performance I have a newer kit with a gross of 1100lbs and ULF of +6 and -3. If I am using Chris Heinz's formula correctly, I believe that an increase to 1200lbs will decrease my ULF to +5.5 and -2.75. Based on my (very limited) knowledge, this still seems quite decent. My research into this has a practical application as flying up here requires carrying full survival gear and folks generally dress in heavy clothing when outside (gets a bit chilly at times). These items quickly eat into useful load. My next research topic is to how my proposed increased gross combined with the extra weight of floats will impact on safety and performance. If I may pose a question to float equipped 701 operators: what was the net weight increase with floats (weight of floats less weight of removed landing gear) and impact on performance with your specific type of floats This information will be very helpful in deciding on the type of floats to select for the plane, when that happy day arrives. One last question (honest): as useful load is important to all pilots, why wouldnt most builders register at the higher gross weight? Thanx for all help folks and on an unrelated topic (apologies if this is not allowed) my thoughts and prayers are with anyone who may be in the way of Gustav. Please stay safe and if its really nasty well be down with our little aid agency (aidrelief.org) to lend a hand. Warmest Regards Victor Menkal Whitehorse Yukon 701 tail complete, wings being covered Victor. You can change the gross weight to what ever you want. You will need to change the load factor in your POH. I have the old kit and have made most of the changes to the SP, but not all. What I have done is, using Chris's calculations on the drawings, I will be using an 1100 lbs gross weight with a load factor of +3.5 and -1.7. Rather than the +4 and -2. This will give me the same load on the aircraft. Mark S. 701/912ULS


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    Time: 05:32:35 PM PST US
    From: Tracy <pbuttles@charter.net>
    Subject: 2200 in 701
    has anyone had any experiance with the 2200 in the 701? does it work being direct drive? does it have enough tourqe? what prop do you use? thanks


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    Time: 08:15:59 PM PST US
    From: "T. Graziano" <tonyplane@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: 2200 in 701
    Check with Pete of Jab USA ( http://www.usjabiru.com/ ). I was in Shelbyville, Tn last Sat for an EAA breakfast and Pete was flying (2nd flight) a really nice looking 701 with a Jab 2200. Sure did sound neat. I believe it may have Jab USA (modified?/ improved?) cowling for better cooling. Although it was a hot day, Pete said there was no problem with CHTs. Tony Graziano Jab3300/Zodiac601XL; 415 hrs Tony Graziano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy" <pbuttles@charter.net> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:32 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: 2200 in 701 > > has anyone had any experiance with the 2200 in the 701? > does it work being direct drive? > does it have enough tourqe? > what prop do you use? > > thanks > > >


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    Time: 10:31:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Increasing Registered Gross
    From: "jetboy" <sanson.r@xtra.co.nz>
    You also must change the POH and airspeed placard limits because vne, vfe, va are related to operations at design gross, will be lower for overgross, and what might be experienced in gust load conditions. The fact that guidance is provided for these operations does not mean that the aircraft is legal or approved in all situations and juristictions and like practically any aircraft the 701 does not handle too well over gross and please remember the airfoil has not changed since the max gross was 880 lbs in '86 AFAIK I also like to carry extra clothing and gear so what I did is not fit any cockpit stuff thats not required for the mission, no extra lights, drill holes in tools and safety gear to cut weight where posible, no axe - just folding saw Silky or Gerber instead, If I were doing it again I'd consider not painting the aircraft Also if you read carefully the latest recommendation on controls limitations for the 601XL, the same cautions would apply to a 701 over gross. Because these "advanced ultralights" by definition had to be designed light, there is practically zero margin left, over time the skins will wrinle and get weaker, its entirely up to the operator to look after his arse Ralph -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1748#201748




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