---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/03/08: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:35 AM - Re: Electrical system (Zed Smith) 2. 06:06 AM - Re: Rudder Tip Rib (kmccune) 3. 07:29 AM - Gross weight? (Dwight Early) 4. 10:45 AM - AveoAmerica (Tommy Walker) 5. 10:48 AM - Re: Electrical system (Tommy Walker) 6. 10:59 AM - Re: Gross weight? (Tommy Walker) 7. 11:47 AM - Re: Re: Gross weight? (Keith Ashcraft) 8. 12:35 PM - Re: Gross weight? (Tommy Walker) 9. 01:12 PM - Re: Re: Gross weight? (Randall J. Hebert) 10. 02:11 PM - 701's in the Houston area? (Jimmy Young) 11. 08:33 PM - Re: Gross weight? (Tommy Walker) 12. 08:46 PM - Re: Electrical system (Les Goldner) 13. 08:52 PM - Re: Jury Struts (secatur) 14. 09:13 PM - Re: Jury Struts (Tommy Walker) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:02 AM PST US From: Zed Smith Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Electrical system --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:53 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Rudder Tip Rib From: "kmccune" Don't let me discourage you, as you may well be better then me at it. Besides we all ruin parts, its just that scratch builders can replace them 8) Kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7232#207232 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:22 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Gross weight? From: "Dwight Early" Hi everyone, I am joining the world of Zenith 701 on Saturday. My question is, does anyone fly at gross weight with a Revmaster 75 hp direct drive. I had planned on taking a buddy with me to pick it up, and am curious if anyone else is flying grossed out. The owner can't answer the question because he has just flown the 40 hours off, and all have been pilot only. Any thoughts? Grass at 400 msl about 2200 feet long. (I now fly a Kitfox 1 with 532 rotax that will do this.) Thanks Dwight Kitfox 1 Cessna 150 soon CH701 :D -------- Dwight Early Kitfox 1/532 Cessna 150F Daleville, In Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7242#207242 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:04 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: AveoAmerica From: "Tommy Walker" 701/801/750'ers, While at the Zenith Open Hangar Day I talked with one of the vendors about his new to the market radio/transponder/traffic product. I am attaching a link to the web site. It sounds just like what I want, but as you all know, screen shots are great, but it's what is behind the screen that makes the difference.... http://www.21stcentury-usa.com/aveo/avionics/digitalflightdeck/aveotrafficcom/ If that doesn't work, click this TinyURL: http://tiny.cc/SERbg Tommy Walker in Alabama N8701 ca. 88 Hours -------- Tommy Walker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7278#207278 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:48:24 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Electrical system From: "Tommy Walker" Also, see this: http://www.ch701.com/Builders%20Resources/electrical/912engine/jon_wiring.htm or if that link doesn't work try TinyURL: http://tiny.cc/5LImC [quote="madriver(at)wildblue.net"]Back to you folks, Ready to wire up mu CH 701 with a Rotax 912 ULS. Simple system, ignition, electric trim, battery, no lite or radios. Have the Rotax drawings but that's as far as I've been able to nail down Who has a system diagram showing what I need to do - as usual have preconceived ideas but always open to suggestions. Phil > [b] -------- Tommy Walker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7279#207279 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:12 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Gross weight? From: "Tommy Walker" Dwight, I'm not too sure how many Revmaster powered 701 owners you will find on this list. But, I can tell you the 701 will fly well at gross, W&B considered. It's all about thrust. You might experiment with first yourself, then maybe 100 lbs of dead weight in the right seat, then add 50 more lbs. etc. till you get to gross. email me at twalker(at)cableone.net if you want more info. Tommy Walker in Alabama N8701 88 + Hours Dwight Early wrote: > Hi everyone, I am joining the world of Zenith 701 on Saturday. My question is, does anyone fly at gross weight with a Revmaster 75 hp direct drive. I had planned on taking a buddy with me to pick it up, and am curious if anyone else is flying grossed out. > The owner can't answer the question because he has just flown the 40 hours off, and all have been pilot only. > Any thoughts? Grass at 400 msl about 2200 feet long. > (I now fly a Kitfox 1 with 532 rotax that will do this.) > > Thanks Dwight > Kitfox 1 > Cessna 150 > soon CH701 :D -------- Tommy Walker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7281#207281 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:47:52 AM PST US From: Keith Ashcraft Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: Gross weight? Tommy, Dwight, and all, I read somewhere, of a procedure to add more and more weight until gross, was part of the 40hr Phase I flight testing. I had planned on adding (in 20# increments) to the passenger seat, and then go do plane performance with the added weight. Then land, and add another 20#, and repeat all tests. Isn't this part of the Phase I testing, or was I just thinking it was (which I plan on doing anyway)? Keith CH701-scratch -- starting on forward cabin area. N 38.9940 W 105.1305 Alt. 9,100' (expecting SNOW this weekend!) ********************************************************************************************* ----- Original Message ---- From: Tommy Walker Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 11:59:02 AM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Gross weight? Dwight, I'm not too sure how many Revmaster powered 701 owners you will find on this list. But, I can tell you the 701 will fly well at gross, W&B considered. It's all about thrust. You might experiment with first yourself, then maybe 100 lbs of dead weight in the right seat, then add 50 more lbs. etc. till you get to gross. email me at twalker(at)cableone.net if you want more info. Tommy Walker in Alabama N8701 88 + Hours Dwight Early wrote: > Hi everyone, I am joining the world of Zenith 701 on Saturday. My question is, does anyone fly at gross weight with a Revmaster 75 hp direct drive. I had planned on taking a buddy with me to pick it up, and am curious if anyone else is flying grossed out. > The owner can't answer the question because he has just flown the 40 hours off, and all have been pilot only. > Any thoughts? Grass at 400 msl about 2200 feet long. > (I now fly a Kitfox 1 with 532 rotax that will do this.) > > Thanks Dwight > Kitfox 1 > Cessna 150 > soon CH701 :D -------- Tommy Walker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7281#207281 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:57 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Gross weight? From: "Tommy Walker" Yes it is a part of Phase I testing. We did it. Used 50lb sacks of fertilizer and a couple of 25lb weights. I was under the impression that was what Phase I testing was all about, flying the airplane at all configurations in order to test climb, stall, turns, etc.... We certified our airplane's VX, VY, etc at gross and it is a part of our log book entry at the conclusion of Phase I..... Tommy 80 degrees here today, 50's tonight Do Not Archive ch701builder(at)yahoo.com wrote: > Tommy, Dwight, and all, > I read somewhere, of a procedure to add more and more weight until gross, was part of the 40hr Phase I flight testing. > I had planned on adding (in 20# increments) to the passenger seat, and then go do plane performance with the added weight. Then land, and add another 20#, and repeat all tests. > Isn't this part of the Phase I testing, or was I just thinking it was (which I plan on doing anyway)? > > Keith > CH701-scratch -- starting on forward cabin area. > N 38.9940 > W 105.1305 > Alt. 9,100' > (expecting SNOW this weekend!) > ********************************************************************************************* > > > --- -------- Tommy Walker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7293#207293 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:22 PM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith701801-List: Re: Gross weight? From: "Randall J. Hebert" I LOVE IT 50# sacks of rice, wheat, flour.... but NOOOOOO fertilizer That's great Tommy Definitely Do Not Archive Randall J Hebert Yes it is a part of Phase I testing. We did it. Used 50lb sacks of fertilizer and a couple of 25lb weights. 80 degrees here today, 50's tonight Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:11:55 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: 701's in the Houston area? From: "Jimmy Young" I currently fly a Kolb, but I do have a serious itch to purchase or build a 701 or 750 one day. Are there any 701 owners in the Houston TX area that are on this list? I would love to come out and see one in person. Thanks for any help, Jimmy Young Kolb FS II, Alvin Airpark (6R5) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7304#207304 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:33:54 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Gross weight? From: "Tommy Walker" LOL Randall.... It isn't that kind of fertilizer.... It's 8-8-8 like we put on our corn early in the year... I know you Cajuns are awash in rice, but it is rare to see 50# sacks of it up here..... Though Shalt Not Archive Tommy randy(at)rjhebertassoc.co wrote: > I LOVE IT > 50# sacks of rice, wheat, flour.... but NOOOOOO fertilizer > > That's great Tommy > > Definitely > Do Not Archive > > Randall J Hebert > > > > Yes it is a part of Phase I testing. We did it. Used 50lb sacks of > fertilizer and a couple of 25lb weights. > > 80 degrees here today, 50's tonight > > Do Not Archive -------- Tommy Walker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7323#207323 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:31 PM PST US From: "Les Goldner" Subject: RE: Zenith701801-List: Electrical system Phil, I see you got two electrical configuration responses that are very different; the Zenith recommendation and a very very simple one. There are a few basic considerations when deciding upon a electrical system including what electrical components you want to eventually have, how much you want to know about what's going on inside your electrical system, how much redundancy, and what safety features you want. You can have the stuff used in GA aircrafts such as excess or shortfall information regarding generated voltage, an automatic generator cut off for very high over-voltage situations, and an essential buss to turn on only the things you absolutely need if you loose the generator. I have attached a diagram of the system I installed, which was designed by Bob Nuckolls at Aeroelectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/). It is complex, but still simpler than most GA systems, . Bob runs seminars about this subject and really knows his stuff. However, I am not recommending this approach if you want to keep to really simple. The choice is yours... Rgds, Les _____ From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of philip smith Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:35 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Electrical system Back to you folks, Ready to wire up mu CH 701 with a Rotax 912 ULS. Simple system, ignition, electric trim, battery, no lite or radios. Have the Rotax drawings but that's as far as I've been able to nail down Who has a system diagram showing what I need to do - as usual have preconceived ideas but always open to suggestions. Phil ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:00 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Jury Struts From: "secatur" Wouldn't it be better to use alloy rod turned to fit the id of the struts? Harder to drill the holes dead centre (v block) but it sure sounds better to me than squashed tubes ! Steve (ZK-SCC in NZ) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7325#207325 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:13:04 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Jury Struts From: "Tommy Walker" Hi Dan, Take a look at the method shown here for fitting the end pieces to the jury struts. http://www.ch701.com/webmaster/Jon/jonfinishing.htm Tommy Walker in Alabama N8701 txpilot wrote: > I'm currently working on my jury struts and wondering how important are the strut caps. Are these actual structural members, or could I just use Superfil on the tube ends? > > How the heck do you get them on anyway? Is the intent to file them down until they barely squeeze in the tube end? I wish ZAC had some reference to this on the builder's page. > > Thanks, > > Dan Ginty > N787DG -------- Tommy Walker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7327#207327 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith701801-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith701801-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith701801-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith701801-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.