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Sat 11/01/08


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 12:22 AM - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! (dralle@matronics.com)
     2. 12:01 PM - Re: Fuel return-Mogas (Les Goldner)
     3. 12:07 PM - Re: Fuel return (Les Goldner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:22:55 AM PST US
    From: dralle@matronics.com
    Subject: Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
    Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through soley through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts. Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/). These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really do feel like family. Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 12:01:50 PM PST US
    From: "Les Goldner" <lgold@quantum-associates.com>
    Subject: Fuel return-Mogas
    Phil, Like you, I always use mogas when I can find it but I check for ethanol each time. In my area (N. Ca.), until last week there was no ethanol in the Chevron 91 octane. Now Chevron apparently switched to a winter formula and is running a little over 5% ethanol. Rotax says for my 912ULS, not to use fuel with more than 5% ethanol. Now I'm not sure if I should continue using mogas this winter. A friend has switched to 50% LL100- 50% mogas since the mix would reduce the ethanol percentage. This seems like a real pain. I may just switch to LL100 and add an additive to reduce the possibility of lead fowling (I use ALCOR <http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/alcortcp.php> TCP CONCENTRATE when I fill up with LL100... it really works). Les _____ From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of philip smith Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 4:44 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Fuel return I posted this a while back but did not get definitive answers. The Rotax 912ULS I'm hanging on my CH-701 has a fitting on the top of the fuel rail that says "return line to tank" in the Rotax installation manual. Some have said just to block it off - others said they plumbed it back to a "line from the tank". I imagine that this line is to prevent fuel vaporization. I have installed a Spruce gascolator ahead of the firewall it has a 1/8 npt fitting in the top for "fuel primer". Would it work to run a 1/4 hose to this fitting - I don't want to run another line back through the cockpit if I don't have to. Planning to use 91 octane mogas - field elevation is 4000ft with hot summers. Thanks Phil


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    Time: 12:07:05 PM PST US
    From: "Les Goldner" <lgold@quantum-associates.com>
    Subject: Fuel return
    I just ran the return fuel lines from my 912ULS down under the cowling so any "returned" fuel would just drain out under the plane away from the hot exhaust. I am guessing that not much fuel ever gets returned because I use only 3.5-GPH at 68-70 MPH (4700-rpm) and about 5.5-GPH (5100-rpm) at 83-86 MPH with my Rotax 912ULS. Les _____ From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 5:17 PM Subject: RE: Zenith701801-List: Fuel return At least one of the 701s built at Quality Sport Planes ran the line back to a three port manifold on the people side of the firewall. I've attached a picture. Presumably there it mixed with cooler fuel coming from the tanks. I've attached a picture. Doug Dugger said the part came with the FWF kit from ZAC but that a similar part could be bought from Aircraft Spruce. Look under hardware->fittings->aluminum manifold fittings. I found a similar part at McMaster-Carr, p/n 5469K101 "ALUMINUM MANIFOLD, 2 OUTLETS, 1/4" NPT INLET X 1/8" NPT OUTLET" -- Craig




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