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Tue 11/11/08


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 12:29 AM - 701 : difference between "old" & new model ? (domkat)
     2. 01:34 AM - Re: 701 : difference between "old" & new model ? (jetboy)
     3. 07:16 AM - Re: Lighting (Coloradodan)
     4. 09:26 AM - Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing (Brady)
     5. 09:31 AM - Re: Builders/Flyers in the Portland area (Brady)
     6. 12:09 PM - Re: Re: Builders/Flyers in the Portland area (Keith Ashcraft)
     7. 12:14 PM - Re: Builders/Flyers in the Portland area (Brady)
     8. 12:37 PM - Re: Re: Builders/Flyers in the Portland area (Keith Ashcraft)
     9. 12:46 PM - Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing (gus)
    10. 01:00 PM - Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing (Brady)
    11. 01:05 PM - Re: Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing (JohnDRead@aol.com)
    12. 02:33 PM - Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing (Brady)
    13. 05:25 PM - Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing (gus)
    14. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing (Craig Payne)
    15. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing (Craig Payne)
    16. 11:21 PM - Re: 701 : difference between "old" & new model ? (domkat)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:29:41 AM PST US
    Subject: 701 : difference between "old" & new model ?
    From: "domkat" <dlka@orange.fr>
    Hello I 'm interested to buy a 701 , already built (airframe & wings) but not finished. a picture of it is attached. it's a kit aged about 10 / 12 years (I think so ?) and my question is : are there important aerodynamics changes with the new 701 models ? will that change something with its performance ? thank you ! dominique Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213467#213467 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/zpercente9nairpercent20chpercent20701percent20percente0percent20finir1_103.jpg


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    Time: 01:34:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 701 : difference between "old" & new model ?
    From: "jetboy" <sanson.r@xtra.co.nz>
    I dont think there is any aerodynamic changes from the earlier model, the max. weight is limited to 960 lbs and there are more restrictions on engine type and weight. The rev-4 plans had a lot of changes to the wing spars and attach points to enable a weight increase to 1100 lbs so the more favoured engines like 912S could be used more fully. Flap travel is now restricted to 16 deg as the heavier models dont need as much. There are lots of the lighter ones flying well on the 80hp Rotax or less, so it will come down to what mission you have, how much stuff you need to install and what the crew weights are. Ralph -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213469#213469


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    Time: 07:16:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lighting
    From: "Coloradodan" <dfanning1@gmail.com>
    Unfortunately the plane was assembled without any wiring. The Wings aren't too bad any ideas on the tail? -------- 22 hours of FLIGHT time. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213493#213493


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    Time: 09:26:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing
    From: "Brady" <brady@magnificentmachine.com>
    Gus, What is wrong with the design in the plans? -------- Brady McCormick Poulsbo, WA www.magnificentmachine.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213525#213525


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    Time: 09:31:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Builders/Flyers in the Portland area
    From: "Brady" <brady@magnificentmachine.com>
    I am in Poulsbo, WA. Stop by for the 10 cent tour. I can show you 2 flying 701s and at least 3 others well in progress. I might even be able to get you a flight in one. -------- Brady McCormick Poulsbo, WA www.magnificentmachine.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213526#213526


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    Time: 12:09:04 PM PST US
    From: Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Builders/Flyers in the Portland area
    Hey Brady, Thanks for the invite. It looks like you are around 160miles from Portland. Quite a trip for 1 day, (approx 7 hrs. driving) Is this about right for the driving time. (round trip) Keith **************************************************************************************************** ________________________________ From: Brady <brady@magnificentmachine.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:29:48 AM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Builders/Flyers in the Portland area I am in Poulsbo, WA. Stop by for the 10 cent tour. I can show you 2 flying 701s and at least 3 others well in progress. I might even be able to get you a flight in one. -------- Brady McCormick Poulsbo, WA www.magnificentmachine.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213526#213526


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    Time: 12:14:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Builders/Flyers in the Portland area
    From: "Brady" <brady@magnificentmachine.com>
    I think so, but the invitation stands. Might be a good stop over point If you were planing to hit Seattle. -------- Brady McCormick Poulsbo, WA www.magnificentmachine.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213556#213556


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    Time: 12:37:15 PM PST US
    From: Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Builders/Flyers in the Portland area
    Hi Brady, OK, we will see how things work out. Good luck with your adventures!!! Keith CH701 -- scratch http://picasaweb.google.com/ch701builder ________________________________ From: Brady <brady@magnificentmachine.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:13:58 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Builders/Flyers in the Portland area I think so, but the invitation stands. Might be a good stop over point If you were planing to hit Seattle. -------- Brady McCormick Poulsbo, WA www.magnificentmachine.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213556#213556


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    Time: 12:46:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing
    From: "gus" <gusjohnson008@gmail.com>
    I am interested in learning what others have done with the metal to metal contact. It seems to me this design will wear fast and not be very smooth. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213561#213561


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    Time: 01:00:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing
    From: "Brady" <brady@magnificentmachine.com>
    There should be no metal to metal, the strut rides in a nylon block bearing. How old are your plans? -------- Brady McCormick Poulsbo, WA www.magnificentmachine.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213563#213563


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    Time: 01:05:25 PM PST US
    From: JohnDRead@aol.com
    Subject: Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing
    I think it is a ball bearing unit. John Read Phone: 303-648-3261 Fax: 303-648-3262 Cell: 719-494-4567 In a message dated 11/11/2008 1:47:22 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, gusjohnson008@gmail.com writes: --> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "gus" <gusjohnson008@gmail.com> I am interested in learning what others have done with the metal to metal contact. It seems to me this design will wear fast and not be very smooth. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213561#213561 **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)


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    Time: 02:33:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing
    From: "Brady" <brady@magnificentmachine.com>
    The bearing that the strut rides in is Nylon. I understood that to be the bearing he was talking about. The Nose Wheel bearing is a ball bearing. I think he said "nose wheel strut" bearing. -------- Brady McCormick Poulsbo, WA www.magnificentmachine.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213577#213577


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    Time: 05:25:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing
    From: "gus" <gusjohnson008@gmail.com>
    yes a nylon block , thats what I have seen. My drawings are dated 09/01. Do the block specs include the "gear extended self centering ramps? Are drawings available for the nylon version? Thanks for the help. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213599#213599


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    Time: 05:43:50 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing
    The attached photo is actually from an HD (Larry McFarland's?) but the design on my 701 looks the same and I'll be adding the nylon. Basically add nylon plates with V notches inside and parallel to the aluminum angle. -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gus Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:47 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing I am interested in learning what others have done with the metal to metal contact. It seems to me this design will wear fast and not be very smooth. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213561#213561


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    Time: 05:50:29 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing
    Even the latest plans (7-L-1 dated 04/2006) show the V notch as bare aluminum (7F8-6 dated 06/2005). I sent a picture in another message showing how to add nylon V notches. -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gus Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 6:26 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: CH701 nose wheel bearing yes a nylon block , thats what I have seen. My drawings are dated 09/01. Do the block specs include the "gear extended self centering ramps? Are drawings available for the nylon version? Thanks for the help. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213599#213599


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    Time: 11:21:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 701 : difference between "old" & new model ?
    From: "domkat" <dlka@orange.fr>
    Hello thank you for your answer Dominique Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213638#213638




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