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1. 05:50 AM - Re: 701 Door ripped off. Just a comment (Geoff Heap)
2. 08:27 AM - Re: 701 Wing Tank Question (ricklach)
3. 10:24 AM - Re: 701 Wing Tank Question (kmccune)
4. 11:13 AM - Corvair College # 13 (Brady)
5. 02:15 PM - Re: Re: Additional L angles in fuselage. (Curt Thompson)
6. 02:35 PM - Re: ch 750 flaperon bracket differant to 701 (Graeme@cole)
7. 02:46 PM - Re: Re: Additional L angles in fuselage. (John Marzulli)
8. 04:19 PM - Re: Re: Additional L angles in fuselage. (MacDonald Doug)
9. 05:13 PM - Re: Re: Additional L angles in fuselage. (Keith Ashcraft)
10. 08:24 PM - Re: Re: Additional L angles in fuselage. (Curt Thompson)
11. 08:35 PM - Re: Additional L angles in fuselage. (JohnDRead@aol.com)
12. 08:45 PM - ch 750 flaperon bracket differant to 701 (JohnDRead@aol.com)
13. 09:09 PM - Re: ch 750 flaperon bracket differant to 701 (Graeme@cole)
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| Subject: | Re: 701 Door ripped off. Just a comment |
Gentlemen
Thanks for your answers. I will go with a stronger, linked multiple rod lock. looks
easy, and more resistant to break in. ....Geoff
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| Subject: | Re: 701 Wing Tank Question |
Hi Curt,
The only response I have is I know of a couple of people that have built the fill
tank and have not experienced a CG issue. It only adds about two gallons per
wing at 6LB a gallon for a total of 24lbs. It's location is right at the transition
from the pilot to the baggage area. I would think a heavy pilot would
be about the same.
Rick
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N35 26.700, W118 16.743
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| Subject: | Re: 701 Wing Tank Question |
I was just looking at a drawing of the ribs, at first glance it looks as though
the tank ends about where the bottom of the ribs turn up? So maybe it is just
to avoid a more complicated tank form/design? I'll have to at it better when
I get home.
Kevin
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| Subject: | Corvair College # 13 |
Corvair College # 13 is now less than 2 weeks away!
For those of you that are in the Washington area, who are flying down commercial
and are some what less than interested in trying to "carry on" your engine &
parts; I am still willing to bring them down with me.
There is no charge for this service, I am going that way anyway. :)
I only say that because someone asked. :)
you must however bring it to me before hand :)
You can call me @ 1-866-606-4152
Or see my website for an address
I will be busy in the shop so If I don't answer just leave a message & I will return
your call during a break.
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| Subject: | Re: Additional L angles in fuselage. |
I'm going against the norm and do mine with single diagonal braces of a
square truss like is shown in the following link:
http://www.supplierlist.com/photo_images/32654/Truss.jpg
I'm going to use .016" AL with about 50mm rivet spacing. I will try to tie
them into the corners.
Curt
Plans building CH701
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From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Harvey
Richards
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 12:17 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Additional L angles in fuselage.
<lisa.richards@ns.sympatico.ca>
Have decided to follow the norm and go with the X bracing . I can see the
advantage to tying the top and bottom longerons together on the diagonal and
the four smaller triangles between the Ls should be stronger.
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| From: | "Graeme@cole" <graeme@coletoolcentre.com.au> |
| Subject: | Re: ch 750 flaperon bracket differant to 701 |
THE ch750 seems to have the flaperons mounted above a modified bracket
closer to the wing,
does any one know
has this been to any advantage in cruise speed? authority?
Is it worth building into a 701? (a speed increase would make it
worth it)
Graemecns
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| Subject: | Re: Additional L angles in fuselage. |
Kinda like what I have done?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mhDbWUJRTOE/RxW3sp5NmnI/AAAAAAAAC_g/F6K9oqBnoAQ/s1600-h/IMG_3413.jpg
Here you can see one of the spots where I installed some sound deadening
material:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mhDbWUJRTOE/RxsWJJ5NmrI/AAAAAAAADAU/rXSuCYd_TtY/s1600-h/IMG_3425.jpg
John Marzulli
http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/
http://marzulli.smugmug.com/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
http://www.JohnMarzulli.net/
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Curt Thompson <Curt.Thompson@verizon.net>wrote:
> Curt.Thompson@verizon.net>
>
> I'm going against the norm and do mine with single diagonal braces of a
> square truss like is shown in the following link:
> http://www.supplierlist.com/photo_images/32654/Truss.jpg
>
> I'm going to use .016" AL with about 50mm rivet spacing. I will try to tie
> them into the corners.
>
> Curt
> Plans building CH701
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Harvey
> Richards
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 12:17 PM
> To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Additional L angles in fuselage.
>
> <lisa.richards@ns.sympatico.ca>
>
> Have decided to follow the norm and go with the X bracing . I can see the
> advantage to tying the top and bottom longerons together on the diagonal
> and
> the four smaller triangles between the Ls should be stronger.
>
> --------
> CH 701
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Additional L angles in fuselage. |
Curt, this is basically what I have done but am a little concerned about the oil
cannieness just aft of the baggage area that this has left me with.
The rest of the bays aft of the largest one seem nice and tight with only the one
diagnal stiffener in each.
Take this all with a grain of salt though as I am not finished building yet.
Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada
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--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Curt Thompson <Curt.Thompson@verizon.net> wrote:
> From: Curt Thompson <Curt.Thompson@verizon.net>
> Subject: RE: Zenith701801-List: Re: Additional L angles in fuselage.
> To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 4:14 PM
> Thompson" <Curt.Thompson@verizon.net>
>
> I'm going against the norm and do mine with single
> diagonal braces of a
> square truss like is shown in the following link:
> http://www.supplierlist.com/photo_images/32654/Truss.jpg
>
> I'm going to use .016" AL with about 50mm rivet
> spacing. I will try to tie
> them into the corners.
>
> Curt
> Plans building CH701
>
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| Subject: | Re: Additional L angles in fuselage. |
All,
I seem to remember that Les Goldner used wood molding, glued to the inside running
horizontal. He does monitor the list (when he isn't out flying) maybe he can
join in and tell about his experience!!
Are you there Les?
Keith
CH701-scratch
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From: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2009 5:18:37 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith701801-List: Re: Additional L angles in fuselage.
Curt, this is basically what I have done but am a little concerned about the oil
cannieness just aft of the baggage area that this has left me with.
The rest of the bays aft of the largest one seem nice and tight with only the one
diagnal stiffener in each.
Take this all with a grain of salt though as I am not finished building yet.
Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada
Do Not Archive
--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Curt Thompson <Curt.Thompson@verizon.net> wrote:
> From: Curt Thompson <Curt.Thompson@verizon.net>
> Subject: RE: Zenith701801-List: Re: Additional L angles in fuselage.
> To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 4:14 PM
> Thompson" <Curt.Thompson@verizon.net>
>
> I'm going against the norm and do mine with single
> diagonal braces of a
> square truss like is shown in the following link:
> http://www.supplierlist.com/photo_images/32654/Truss.jpg
>
> I'm going to use .016" AL with about 50mm rivet
> spacing. I will try to tie
> them into the corners.
>
> Curt
> Plans building CH701
>
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| Subject: | Re: Additional L angles in fuselage. |
John,
I'm going to do the top and bottom too. I'm going to arrange them like the
square truss picture I linked to earlier.
Curt
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From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Marzulli
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: Additional L angles in fuselage.
Kinda like what I have done?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mhDbWUJRTOE/RxW3sp5NmnI/AAAAAAAAC_g/F6K9oqBnoAQ/s1
600-h/IMG_3413.jpg
Here you can see one of the spots where I installed some sound deadening
material:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mhDbWUJRTOE/RxsWJJ5NmrI/AAAAAAAADAU/rXSuCYd_TtY/s1
600-h/IMG_3425.jpg
John Marzulli
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| Subject: | Re: Additional L angles in fuselage. |
Hi Curt;
I made diagonal braces from standard "L" as they are on the
factory 701. The rearmost diagonal was my starting point, it goes from bottom
skin at the rear to upper skin toward the front. The next brace started at the
top skin and so on. I tied them into the corners near the vertical "L", I used
A4 rivets at the standard rivet spacing of 40 mm. If you look on the Zenith
web site they are visible. I have flown the factory 701 and did not hear any
oil canning.
John Read
CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
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| Subject: | ch 750 flaperon bracket differant to 701 |
Hi Graem;
I think what you are seeing is somewhat of an optical
illusion. I had a good look at the 750 prototype in the Mexico factory The
flaperons on the 750 are the essentially the same spacing below the trailing edge
of
the wing as on the 701. What is different is the flaperon support bracket, it
is quite a lot longer than on the 701 and attaches further forward in the
wing without the fussy brackets that the 701 has.
John Read
CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
**************Stay up-to-date on the latest news - from fashion trends to
celebrity break-ups and everything in between.
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| From: | "Graeme@cole" <graeme@coletoolcentre.com.au> |
| Subject: | Re: ch 750 flaperon bracket differant to 701 |
Yes I saw the longer brackets and that is what triggered me to look at
the flaperon.
And it does Loook Closer.
I like the windows at rear in the CH750 but was mainly considering a
luggage door on one side.
Buy the looks of it there would be no reason you couldn't frame up a
door and skin it with light pesprex!
Graemecns
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From: JohnDRead@aol.com
To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: ch 750 flaperon bracket differant to 701
Hi Graem;
I think what you are seeing is somewhat of an optical
illusion. I had a good look at the 750 prototype in the Mexico factory
The flaperons on the 750 are the essentially the same spacing below the
trailing edge of the wing as on the 701. What is different is the
flaperon support bracket, it is quite a lot longer than on the 701 and
attaches further forward in the wing without the fussy brackets that the
701 has.
John Read
CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
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