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1. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: Aluminum angle thickness was: From 2003 and Mark T (Dan)
2. 09:15 AM - Re: 701 Wing Tank Question (ricklach)
3. 09:44 AM - Re: Aluminum angle thickness (John Bolding)
4. 12:50 PM - Re: Aluminum angle thickness was: From 2003 and Mark T (kmccune)
5. 12:59 PM - Re: Aluminum angle thickness (kmccune)
6. 01:02 PM - Re: We Finally Took the Plunge! (kmccune)
7. 02:17 PM - Re:Wet Wing (John Bolding)
8. 07:46 PM - Re: Other Door Questions - Skyshop Products (txpilot)
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum angle thickness was: From 2003 and |
Mark T
Hi Kevin: I understand trying to save weight as I am also planning a heavy
engine. I misspoke when I quoted my costs for the .125 as it was about
$100.00 for four 25foot lengths and not 2 lengths. There was a thread about
the weight issue a few months ago and the difference in weight between using
.093 and .125 is measured in ounces. Dan.
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Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: From 2003 and Mark T
I know that you can use .125 stock, but I am trying to save weight due to
the heavy engine I will be using. So 3-5 lbs is worth a little extra $ .
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Kevin
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| Subject: | Re: 701 Wing Tank Question |
Hi Kevin and Ralph,
The picture you posted Kevin is exactly what I want to build. I just cant see wasting
the area between the 10-gal Zenith tank and the rear spar. I also like
the duel fuel outlets. Just like piper Pacer, Tripacers and Cubs.
Rick
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Rick
N35 26.700, W118 16.743
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum angle thickness |
I suppose that 4# (+ or - a bit) could be expressed in ounces, but it
really IS 4 pounds. I've gone to a lot of effort to get the pounds off my
airframe and engine but I succumbed to the .125 angle even thou it it less
than my imposed limit of saving weight at the rate of $100 per pound.
Decided FINALLY to wet the wing instead of building tanks. I think it'll be
easier, I KNOW I'll save 2-3 #.
LO&SLO John
>
There was a thread about
> the weight issue a few months ago and the difference in weight between
> using
> .093 and .125 is measured in ounces. Dan.
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum angle thickness was: From 2003 and Mark |
T
4 sticks of .125" x1.5" x 25ft is 22.23 lbs
4 sticks of .093 x 1.5" x 25 ft is 17.28 lbs
So 4.95 lbs difference, I'll still be someplace around $16,000.00 ahead, by using
the Corvair, so its worth it to me.
http://www.steelforge.com/steelweights.htm
no angle calcs available so I used flat stock@ 1.5" x 300' x 4
Kevin
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you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum angle thickness |
I was kicking that wet tank thing around, and I'd do it if the skin were .020 or
.025, but at .016 I think I'll stick to the separate riveted tank, but extended
for more fuel. But then I have to admit John, I do not have as long ( or even
any ) of a history with experimentals as you, maybe when I build my CH650
8)
Kevin
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Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
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| Subject: | Re: We Finally Took the Plunge! |
Welcome the the Zenith Club !
Kevin
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Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
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That was my thought as well, decided to make the top and bottom wing skin
.025 in the area of the tank, either overlap at a rib or make a butt joint
with a strip of 025 to join to the rest of the wing skins. Thanks for the
compliment but the shop floor has been littered over the last 35 yrs with
MANY miscues, hopefully this won't be one of them. John
>
> I was kicking that wet tank thing around, and I'd do it if the skin were
> .020 or .025, but at .016 I think I'll stick to the separate riveted tank,
> but extended for more fuel. But then I have to admit John, I do not have
> as long ( or even any ) of a history with experimentals as you, maybe
> when I build my CH650 8)
>
>
> Kevin
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| Subject: | Re: Other Door Questions - Skyshop Products |
> They seem to have a lot of 701 stuff on their website yet, for a company not
supporting 701s.
>
> do not archive
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> Kevin
I asked them about that. They said they really don't have control of their website
anymore. They want to remove that information since they don't have anything
for Zenith Aircraft in stock anymore. No, I don't get it either.
To their credit, they were somewhat helpful in identifying the mysterious rivet.
It is normally used for fuel tanks because the mandrel provides an air and
water-tight seal. They indicated it's meant for riveting the lexan to the door.
No, I don't quite get that one either.
Anyway, they said just follow the instructions provided. Here's the problem:
they never provided instructions and don't have any available! They said I could
follow the ZAC plans for the bubble doors (pictorial guides), but I always
saw those as a bit cryptic.
Okay, I'm done complaining now. I'm getting back to work on my doors.
Dan
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