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1. 07:59 AM - 701 FOR SALE (John Short)
2. 10:21 AM - Riveter available (Zed Smith)
3. 10:45 AM - Parts (Coloradodan)
4. 10:51 AM - Re: Parts (Coloradodan)
5. 11:51 AM - Re: Riveter available (Gary Gower)
6. 12:31 PM - Tension gage drawing (LarryMcFarland)
7. 02:01 PM - Re: Wing Strut Fairing on 801 (Les Goldner)
8. 02:11 PM - Re: Tension gage drawing (Les Goldner)
9. 03:04 PM - Re: Gasoline smell (ronlee)
10. 05:26 PM - Re: Tension gage drawing (LarryMcFarland)
11. 05:32 PM - Re: Re: Gasoline smell (Les Goldner)
12. 08:46 PM - Inexpensive instruments? (John Marzulli)
13. 09:07 PM - Re: Build area size? (jf3sb)
14. 09:52 PM - Re: Inexpensive instruments? (mcjon77)
15. 10:46 PM - Re: Re: Build area size? (John Marzulli)
16. 10:49 PM - Re: Re: Inexpensive instruments? (John Marzulli)
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
As so of you may remember a while back I was toying with the idea of
selling my 701 project.
I have decided to do so, if anyone is interested please feel free to
contact me.
I will be taking offers over the next few days and or possibly putting
on Ebay.
CREATIVE SIGNWORKS
1168 Byron Rd.
Kaufman, Tx 75142
John & Mindy Short
972-962-7464
Cell: 214-240-3815
www.creative-sign-works.com
creativesigns@embarqmail.com
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| Subject: | Riveter available |
do not archive
Just wht the modern well-equipped homebuilder needs......
If the photo attaches properly you can see it.
The location is Lockheed Martin Missiles/Dallas through ReneBates.com (online auction)
If photo doesn't attach, go to the aforementioned auction firm, check their listings.
Regards to all,
Zed
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Guys,
I am getting ready to place an order from Canada for some smallish parts for my
801.
Anybody want to jump on the order to split the import cost etc...
It'll come to me then I'll put it in a new box to you. Just thought I would offer.
Dan
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I'll be ordering tomorrow. So let me know ASAP.
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28 hours of FLIGHT time.
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| Subject: | Re: Riveter available |
Hello Zed,
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Planning to build an RV=A8?----
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Saludos
Gary Gower.
Do not archive...
--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Riveter available
do not archive
Just wht the modern well-equipped homebuilder needs......
If the photo attaches properly you can see it.
The location is Lockheed Martin Missiles/Dallas through ReneBates.com (onli
ne
auction)
If photo doesn't attach, go to the aforementioned auction firm, check their
listings.
Regards to all,
Zed=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Tension gage drawing |
Hi guys,
I finally finished the cable tension gage drawing and put it on the site.
Its found within Tools, Jigging & Handling page sub-file /Cable Tools.
See link, www.macsmachine.com/html/tjhcabletools.htm
<http://www.macsmachine.com/html/tjhcabletools.htm>
I hope this is useful. To print, click to the large image, show only
this frame and save it for printing a full 8.5 x 11 image.
Have a good one,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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| Subject: | Wing Strut Fairing on 801 |
Bill,
The reason I suggested a handle on the lower longeron is that we have two
701s in our airport, including mine, that has one. They were very easy to
put on (screws replaced two rivets). The longeron is on a 701 is strong
enough to take the stress, but I don't know if it would work on an 801.
Les
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keystone
Engineering LLC
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 6:58 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Wing Strut Fairing on 801
<keystone@gci.net>
Les
I used the factory fairings. The rear comes to a sharp point. It seems I'm
either trying to get the plane out of the hanger up onto the snow and ice
outside. It normally is slippery in front of the plane. I normally am
pushing from the concrete floor inside. You end up not only pushing but
also lifting. The other place is out on a beach and I am stuck in the soft
sand. The closer to the center line you push the less turning tendency you
have to overcome. I probably should just cut the fairing off the lower
couple of feet of the rear strut.
I suspect I fly my 801 differently than most. I would not call myself a bush
pilot but I normally try to log over half my landings off airport. One of
the things I do is layout the strip and provide traffic control for on the
beach for the May Day Fly in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWS_buG3eSK
The handle in front of stabilizer would probably work, although I'm not sure
the lower longeron would be strong enough or if I could get enough leverage.
I know I use to bend the tubes in my PA-22/20 when I was pushing the placer
around with the big Atlee Dodge handles I installed. You could get both
hands in the big ones. I suspect the tubes in the pacer were stronger than
the longerons in the 801.
It would be easer on the hands than hanging off the rear of the empennage to
turn the plane as I do now. I'm not sure what will happen if I loose a few
more pounds. I don't know if anyone else turns their plane this way. I
have a nose steering device in the hanger but out in the field I normally
hang from the back to lift the nose to spin the plane around.
Bill Wilcox
N801BW
400 hrs
Valdez, AK
Guess our experiences are very different Bill.
I got a lot more than an just an insignificant increased speed from the
fairings. Also, pushing the plane is no problem with fairings built from
.025 6061 aluminum bent tight around the struts in a teardrop shape and held
with solid rivets. Did you use thinner material? Consider adding a small
streamlined handle grip on one lower longeron about a foot forward of the
stab to push from.
Les
Hi
I did see a small increase in speed when I installed the strut fairings.
The problem I have is when I get the plane stuck and try to push it forward
the trailing edge cuts into your hand. If I did not have so many other
projects I would probably remove the wing strut fairings.
Bill Wilcox
N801BW
400 hrs
Valdez, AK
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| Subject: | Tension gage drawing |
Larry,
Could you put up a sharper image of the drawing. I can't read the text even
after enhancing it.
Thanks,
Les
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
LarryMcFarland
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:29 PM
zenith-list
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Tension gage drawing
<larry@macsmachine.com>
Hi guys,
I finally finished the cable tension gage drawing and put it on the site.
It's found within Tools, Jigging & Handling page sub-file /Cable Tools.
See link, www.macsmachine.com/html/tjhcabletools.htm
<http://www.macsmachine.com/html/tjhcabletools.htm>
I hope this is useful. To print, click to the large image, show only
this frame and save it for printing a full 8.5 x 11 image.
Have a good one,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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| Subject: | Re: Gasoline smell |
I have a 701 with fuel smell in a closed cockpit. I had the same in my Titan. The
line runs through the cockpit on these planes. I am convinced it comes right
through the rubber fuel line. If you get your nose right up to the line you
will be able to smell the gasoline. Let the line go dry and the smell goes away.
Ron L
Tucson, AZ
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Ron Lee
Tucson, Arizona
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| Subject: | Re: Tension gage drawing |
I see what you mean Les,
I'll save it a size larger and keep the high pixel count and see if
that's easier to hold onto.
Always can come down in size.
Larry
Les Goldner wrote:
>
> Larry,
> Could you put up a sharper image of the drawing. I can't read the text even
> after enhancing it.
> Thanks,
> Les
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> LarryMcFarland
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:29 PM
> To: zenith601-list@matronics.com; zenith701801-list@matronics.com;
> zenith-list
> Subject: Zenith701801-List: Tension gage drawing
>
> <larry@macsmachine.com>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I finally finished the cable tension gage drawing and put it on the site.
>
> It's found within Tools, Jigging & Handling page sub-file /Cable Tools.
>
> See link, www.macsmachine.com/html/tjhcabletools.htm
> <http://www.macsmachine.com/html/tjhcabletools.htm>
>
> I hope this is useful. To print, click to the large image, show only
> this frame and save it for printing a full 8.5 x 11 image.
>
> Have a good one,
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gasoline smell |
Interesting observation Ron,
Reminds me of the time I purchased the most expensive flexible sewer hose
sold for the head on my sailboat. Sure enough I started smelling sewage a
few months later and confronted the manufacturer who sent me a can of
deodorant!
Les
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ronlee
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:04 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Gasoline smell
I have a 701 with fuel smell in a closed cockpit. I had the same in my
Titan. The line runs through the cockpit on these planes. I am convinced it
comes right through the rubber fuel line. If you get your nose right up to
the line you will be able to smell the gasoline. Let the line go dry and the
smell goes away.
Ron L
Tucson, AZ
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Ron Lee
Tucson, Arizona
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| Subject: | Inexpensive instruments? |
Can anyone suggest a decent source for a VFR six pack? I was going to go
with a Dynon 180, but need to scale back after an expensive engine overhaul
on my C150.
I am also looking for a good deal on a com, transponder and encoder.
Used is perfectly OK.
Any ideas?
Thanks and DO NOT ARCHIVE
John Marzulli
http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/
http://marzulli.smugmug.com/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
http://www.JohnMarzulli.net/
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| Subject: | Re: Build area size? |
I was building in a 14' x 24' garage for awhile and got along pretty well. Built
all the airfoils including the wings in there, including storage of everything
except the first wing, which got moved into the house. You can get pretty
creative with shelf space and storing stuff above the rafters, hoisted under
the ceiling, etc. Don't let tight quarters stop you from building.
John Flavin
Olathe, KS
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| Subject: | Re: Inexpensive instruments? |
I don't know how inexpensive you want to get but the MGL Avionics Stratomaster
Ultra EFIS can give you a complete six pack (black and white) for under $3K.
If you can do without the artificial horizon it drops to under $2K. Another option
are the maxi singles from the same company. With artificial horizon, it
is less than $2K (about $1500 ?). Aircraft Spruce was selling refurbished Artificial
Horizions for < $600 last time I checked.
Jon McDonald
Building Sonex #1287
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Jon McDonald
Building Sonex #1287
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| Subject: | Re: Build area size? |
A friend is willing to let me store my wings in their garage, which will
make things easier in the new place. The trick will be getting the engine
on.
John Marzulli
http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/
http://marzulli.smugmug.com/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
http://www.JohnMarzulli.net/
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:06 PM, jf3sb <jf3sb@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I was building in a 14' x 24' garage for awhile and got along pretty well.
> Built all the airfoils including the wings in there, including storage of
> everything except the first wing, which got moved into the house. You can
> get pretty creative with shelf space and storing stuff above the rafters,
> hoisted under the ceiling, etc. Don't let tight quarters stop you from
> building.
>
> John Flavin
> Olathe, KS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229677#229677
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Inexpensive instruments? |
There have been a few stories in the EAA rags and Kitplanes about guys
building great planes for cheap. I am wondering if good deals can be had on
used stuff and put together my main instruments for way less than a cheap
EFIS.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
John Marzulli
http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/
http://marzulli.smugmug.com/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
http://www.JohnMarzulli.net/
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:52 PM, mcjon77 <mcjon77@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know how inexpensive you want to get but the MGL Avionics
> Stratomaster Ultra EFIS can give you a complete six pack (black and white)
> for under $3K. If you can do without the artificial horizon it drops to
> under $2K. Another option are the maxi singles from the same company. With
> artificial horizon, it is less than $2K (about $1500 ?). Aircraft Spruce
> was selling refurbished Artificial Horizions for < $600 last time I checked.
>
> Jon McDonald
> Building Sonex #1287
>
> --------
> Jon McDonald
> Building Sonex #1287
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229682#229682
>
>
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