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Wed 02/11/09


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 12:14 AM - Re: Re: Inexpensive instruments? (Craig Payne)
     2. 03:51 AM - Re: Re: Inexpensive instruments? (MacDonald Doug)
     3. 05:58 AM - Performance of 80hp Rotax 701 on floats? (mcjon77)
     4. 10:45 AM - =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9p=2E_=3A_Zenith701801-List=3A_Performance_of_80hp_Rota?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?x_701_on_floats=3F? (Jean-Paul Roy)
     5. 04:48 PM - News from Magnificent Machine (Brady)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:14:37 AM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Re: Inexpensive instruments?
    If you are looking at the MGL EFIS (color or monochrome) check with Matt at Sport Flying Shop (MGL/USA). He often has trade-in units. Also a combination of an MGL Flight 2 and E-1 engine monitor can give you a usable VFR panel in two 3.5 inch instruments for about $700. Chris Smith flees with this in the Cleanex II (a Corvair-powered Sonex). http://www.sportflyingshop.com/ -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mcjon77 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:52 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Inexpensive instruments? I don't know how inexpensive you want to get but the MGL Avionics Stratomaster Ultra EFIS can give you a complete six pack (black and white) for under $3K. If you can do without the artificial horizon it drops to under $2K. Another option are the maxi singles from the same company. With artificial horizon, it is less than $2K (about $1500 ?). Aircraft Spruce was selling refurbished Artificial Horizions for < $600 last time I checked. Jon McDonald Building Sonex #1287 -------- Jon McDonald Building Sonex #1287 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229682#229682


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    Time: 03:51:33 AM PST US
    From: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Inexpensive instruments?
    John, I can appreciate the idea of wanting to save a little money on your plane. The details do get expensive. I question the need for a full six pack of instruments in a 701. Since it was originally intended as a day VFR flier. For sure, each builder will do what they want in this regard. That is why we are into Experimental aircraft. The other thing to think about with steam gauges is weight. I have a turn co-coordinator that I almost installed in my 701 until I read the tag that said it weighed over three pounds. I guess the gyro wheel is pretty heavy. Also you end up with the additional hassle of installing a vacuum system to run the other gyros. I suppose that is where Dynon is making their big marketing ploy. They are cheaper than the total of all six instruments (new) and they weigh a lot less. For cost, you can always check out E-Bay but of course, "Buyer Beware". You never really know what it is you are getting there. Best of luck with your build Doug MacDonald CH-701 Scratch Builder NW Ontario, Canada Do Not Archive --- On Wed, 2/11/09, John Marzulli <john.marzulli@gmail.com> wrote: > From: John Marzulli <john.marzulli@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: Inexpensive instruments? > To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 12:46 AM > There have been a few stories in the EAA rags and Kitplanes > about guys > building great planes for cheap. I am wondering if good > deals can be had on > used stuff and put together my main instruments for way > less than a cheap > EFIS. > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > John Marzulli


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    Time: 05:58:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Performance of 80hp Rotax 701 on floats?
    From: "mcjon77" <mcjon77@yahoo.com>
    Hi guys, I wanted to know if any of you have experience operating a 701 with an 80hp 912UL on floats? I know more power of the 912ULS would be ideal, but how does the 80hp 912UL perform? How does it fly at gross on floats? Also, are the Zenith numbers for the 80hp accurate. If not, which ones would you call into question? Thanks, Jon McDonald Building Sonex #1287 -------- Jon McDonald Building Sonex #1287 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229724#229724


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    Time: 10:45:04 AM PST US
    From: Jean-Paul Roy <royjp@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9p=2E_=3A_Zenith701801-List=3A_Performance_of_80hp_Rota?=
    =?iso-8859-1?Q?x_701_on_floats=3F? This is one question I asked Mark Townsend about the differences. He said t hat on take off (gross) -with the 80HP, you would count 10 seconds, where as with the 100 HP, you count 6 seconds. Jean-Paul Roy --- En date de-: Mer, 11.2.09, mcjon77 <mcjon77@yahoo.com> a =E9crit-: De: mcjon77 <mcjon77@yahoo.com> Objet: Zenith701801-List: Performance of 80hp Rotax 701 on floats? =C0: zenith701801-list@matronics.com <mcjon77@yahoo.com> Hi guys, I wanted to know if any of you have experience operating a 701 with an 80hp 912UL on floats? I know more power of the 912ULS would be ideal, but how d oes the 80hp 912UL perform? How does it fly at gross on floats? Also, are the Zenith numbers for the 80hp accurate. If not, which ones wou ld you call into question? Thanks, Jon McDonald Building Sonex #1287 -------- Jon McDonald Building Sonex #1287 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229724#229724 =0A=0A=0A Offrez un compte Flickr Pro =E0 vos amis et =E0 votre famill e.=0Ahttp://www.flickr.com/gift/


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    Time: 04:48:50 PM PST US
    Subject: News from Magnificent Machine
    From: "Brady" <brady@magnificentmachine.com>
    For those who might be interested: We have made some updates to our website and added a few products to the "coming soon" section. Check them out at: http://www.magnificentmachine.com MagVair Forged Pistons: We now have pistons in all sizes in stock and ready to ship. This is the second run of pistons; we have tightened up the pin to piston tolerances a little. Due to an increase in manufacturing costs we are forced to increase the prices slightly. However we realize that some may have been waiting for these to return to stock before placing their order. As such, we will hold off the price increase for a week or so. MagVair Forged 4340 Rods: Our Rods have been on back order for some time now due to a container that was "set aside for inspection". The container has been released and I expect the rods here any day now. Those of you who have patiently been awaiting these will not be disappointed. MagVair Forged 4340 Crankshafts: The crankshaft project continues to move forward. We now have a 3" stroke crankshaft in a case with our rods, pistons and aluminum cylinders. This engine is very close to completion and I expect it to run within the next couple of weeks or so. We will then proceed with testing. We recently put a 3.25" crankshaft into a case with a cam and two rods. When we rotated the crankshaft we were looking for interference between the rods & the cam lobes. It was a quick and dirty test to see if it was going to be a big problem or a small problem. We did not see any interference with those two rods. We have not mocked up all of the cylinders yet so we may find some interference with the other rods. At this time it looks like there should be no problems. We will mock up the entire rotating assembly soon as time permits. Paying customers come first; R&D doesn't pay the bills. :-) Our next Engine project looks like it will have the 3.125" crankshaft and 92MM cylinders. This will net a 3165cc engine. Thank you, Brady McCormick Magnificent Machine LLC 17970 Thompson PL NE Poulsbo, WA 98370 1-866-606-4152 -------- Brady McCormick Poulsbo, WA www.magnificentmachine.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229882#229882




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