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1. 05:59 PM - Chat Room reminder for "Digesters" (George Race)
2. 06:26 PM - Re: 701 elevator trim option (ronlee)
3. 06:52 PM - Re: Re: 701 elevator trim option (Graeme@cole)
4. 07:07 PM - Re: Re: 701 elevator trim option (fritz)
5. 07:10 PM - Re: Re: 701 elevator trim option (NYTerminat@aol.com)
6. 07:34 PM - Thanks to Jim and Phil (Jake Crause)
7. 07:45 PM - Re: Re: 701 elevator trim option (Gary Gower)
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| Subject: | Chat Room reminder for "Digesters" |
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| Subject: | Re: 701 elevator trim option |
I even have a larger trim tab on the horizontal elevator then the plans call for.
Even with full up trim and vortex generators on the bottom of the elevator,
coming in for a landing I need to keep a bit of back pressure on the stick to
keep the plane slow enough for approach speed. I had to keep lots more back pressure
before I installed the vg's. On the GA planes I have flown they could
all be trimmed to hold the correct approach speed without any aft stick pressure,
thereby easing the workload making an approach. Does anyone else's 701 have
this unconventional characteristic on their plane?
Ron Lee
Tucson, Arizona
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Ron Lee
Tucson, Arizona
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| From: | "Graeme@cole" <graeme@coletoolcentre.com.au> |
| Subject: | Re: 701 elevator trim option |
What is your approach speed.
Graemecns
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----- Original Message -----
From: "ronlee" <rlee468@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:26 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: 701 elevator trim option
>
> I even have a larger trim tab on the horizontal elevator then the plans
> call for. Even with full up trim and vortex generators on the bottom of
> the elevator, coming in for a landing I need to keep a bit of back
> pressure on the stick to keep the plane slow enough for approach speed. I
> had to keep lots more back pressure before I installed the vg's. On the GA
> planes I have flown they could all be trimmed to hold the correct approach
> speed without any aft stick pressure, thereby easing the workload making
> an approach. Does anyone else's 701 have this unconventional
> characteristic on their plane?
> Ron Lee
> Tucson, Arizona
>
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> Ron Lee
> Tucson, Arizona
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231588#231588
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| Subject: | Re: 701 elevator trim option |
what does the trailing edge of your elevator look like? that of the early
701's or similar to the 601?
----- Original Message -----
From: "ronlee" <rlee468@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:26 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: 701 elevator trim option
>
> I even have a larger trim tab on the horizontal elevator then the plans
> call for. Even with full up trim and vortex generators on the bottom of
> the elevator, coming in for a landing I need to keep a bit of back
> pressure on the stick to keep the plane slow enough for approach speed. I
> had to keep lots more back pressure before I installed the vg's. On the GA
> planes I have flown they could all be trimmed to hold the correct approach
> speed without any aft stick pressure, thereby easing the workload making
> an approach. Does anyone else's 701 have this unconventional
> characteristic on their plane?
> Ron Lee
> Tucson, Arizona
>
> --------
> Ron Lee
> Tucson, Arizona
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231588#231588
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 701 elevator trim option |
Ron,
Did you leave the trailing edge of the elevator with the bend or straighten
it out?
In a message dated 2/22/2009 10:08:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
klondike@megalink.net writes:
--> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "fritz" <klondike@megalink.net>
what does the trailing edge of your elevator look like? that of the early
701's or similar to the 601?
----- Original Message -----
From: "ronlee" <rlee468@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:26 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: 701 elevator trim option
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| Subject: | Thanks to Jim and Phil |
Group,=0A-=0AThis is just a quick note to the group to report a couple of
great experiences I've had in the short time I've been a member of this gr
oup.- =0A=0AThe first was just over a months ago-courtesy of Jim Mcburn
ey.- Jim was nice enough to invite my wife and I to his local EAA chapter
meeting and to let us take a long look at his 801 Project.- He bought us
lunch and was a very gracious host.- We talked about his choice of engin
e, his future ministry plans with the plane, and a multitude of other thing
s.- It was a real boost in the arm for my wife and I as we geared up to s
tart our 801 Rudder.- Great guy.=0A=0AThe next was during our trip down
-to Flight Crafters in Florida to start our Rudder build last week.- Ph
il Owens and his lovely-wife-happened to be in the area at the same tim
e and were nice enough to take time away from visiting family to meet my wi
fe and I for lunch to discuss-their 801 project.- We spent 2.5 hours ra
king-Phil over the coals for information and experience he's gained durin
g-the build but didn't even scratch the surface of what that man knows.
- We learned a lot though and-had a great time getting to know them.-
Great folks!=0A=0AI just wanted to take this opportunity to publicly thank
Jim and Phil for their help and support.- Having folks reach out and fre
ely offer their knowledge and experience confirms my decision to build a Ze
nith Project.- Having-such a strong community of builders and fliers is
a major asset.- Thanks guys!=0A=0AJake Crause=0APooler, GA=0Awww.homebui
ltairplanes.com=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: 701 elevator trim option |
Hello Ron,
-
I also made my trim tab double the width of the one in the plans (from comm
ents from pilots while building years ago...),- does a great job, no prob
lem for me in trimming for aproach.
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For me works great 60 mph indicated with 15 D flaps in final.- I like ver
y much the feeling of the airplane at that approach speed, very solid even
in turbulence.- probably our altitude here (5,029 ft ASL). and also that
we have -a few trees "air shade" just before the numbers...
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I keep 60 all the way until ground efect and flare.- I practice often my
aproach with engine in idle since basic.- is a steep aproach with a very
well timed flare, but I am shure will help eventualy in case of a engine of
f landing...
Is something I keep doing since my 2 cycle engine's flying..- 3 engine em
ergencies in 15 years of 2 Cycle ultralight flying, only one with some ligh
t (repairable) damage.- no harm to me.
-
Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
701 912S- 235 hrs
--- On Sun, 2/22/09, ronlee <rlee468@comcast.net> wrote:
From: ronlee <rlee468@comcast.net>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: 701 elevator trim option
<rlee468@comcast.net>
I even have a larger trim tab on the horizontal elevator then the plans cal
l
for. Even with full up trim and vortex generators on the bottom of the elev
ator,
coming in for a landing I need to keep a bit of back pressure on the stick
to
keep the plane slow enough for approach speed. I had to keep lots more back
pressure before I installed the vg's. On the GA planes I have flown they
could all be trimmed to hold the correct approach speed without any aft sti
ck
pressure, thereby easing the workload making an approach. Does anyone else'
s
701 have this unconventional characteristic on their plane?
Ron Lee
Tucson, Arizona
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Ron Lee
Tucson, Arizona
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