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1. 12:08 PM - Re: From 2003 and Mark T (kmccune)
2. 12:24 PM - Re: Re: From 2003 and Mark T (Randall Hebert)
3. 12:47 PM - Re: Re: From 2003 and Mark T (Randall Hebert)
4. 12:54 PM - Rivet length with .125 angle on 701 (Roy Szarafinski)
5. 02:22 PM - Re: Rivet length with .125 angle on 701 (Roy Szarafinski)
6. 04:11 PM - Re: Rivet length with .125 angle on 701 (JohnDRead@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: From 2003 and Mark T |
Out of curiosity, those who have used the .125" wall angle, did you used teh standard
rivets?
Kevin
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| Subject: | Re: From 2003 and Mark T |
Kevin
I used the standard pulled rivets because they have sufficient grip, but for
the cabin sides and spar, (i.e. solid rivets) I made chart for the sum of
the thicknesses and adjusted the length as needed.
Randall J Hebert
Out of curiosity, those who have used the .125" wall angle, did you used teh
standard rivets?
Kevin
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| Subject: | Re: From 2003 and Mark T |
In an earlier post I said it was OK to use A5 instead of the A4 in the spar.
I too was unsatisfied with the alignment and needed to drill out to A5
The fact that I used a 0.125 Extrusion allowed me to make the decision that
it was ok to do this.
Randall J Hebert
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| Subject: | Rivet length with .125 angle on 701 |
I upped the ad5-6 to ad5-7, the avex I left the same. Spar web .025, +Cap .125
=grip lenght .150. + .156 rivet dia x 1.5= .234+.150=.384 which is a touch short
for a -6 rivet. When riveting I didn't pay so much attention to the height
as long as the shop head was 1.5 times the rivet starting diameter. The cabin
sides are .032 material and the -6 is way too short.
Aircraft Sheet Metal by Jeppesen and AC43-13B are both good reference and procedure
books.
Roy Szarafinski
roysgarage.com
701 etc.
----- Original Message ----
From: kmccune <kmccune@somtel.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:08:00 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: From 2003 and Mark T
Out of curiosity, those who have used the .125" wall angle, did you used teh standard
rivets?
Kevin
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| Subject: | Re: Rivet length with .125 angle on 701 |
I should have said .384 is a touch LONG for a -6 rivet. The .040 strut/web spar
doubler makes the 7/16 long rivet near perfect length.
Roy
----- Original Message ----
From: Roy Szarafinski <rvickski@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:54:07 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Rivet length with .125 angle on 701
I upped the ad5-6 to ad5-7, the avex I left the same. Spar web .025, +Cap .125
=grip lenght .150. + .156 rivet dia x 1.5= .234+.150=.384 which is a touch short
for a -6 rivet.
Roy Szarafinski
roysgarage.com
701 etc.
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| Subject: | Re: Rivet length with .125 angle on 701 |
Zenith construction standards will also give the added length required for
a given rivet diameter. do not archive.
John Read
CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
In a message dated 5/20/2009 1:54:44 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
rvickski@yahoo.com writes:
--> Zenith701801-List message posted by: Roy Szarafinski
<rvickski@yahoo.com>
I upped the ad5-6 to ad5-7, the avex I left the same. Spar web .025, +Cap
.125 =grip lenght .150. + .156 rivet dia x 1.5= .234+.150=.384 whic
h is a
touch short for a -6 rivet. When riveting I didn't pay so much attention
to
the height as long as the shop head was 1.5 times the rivet starting
diameter. The cabin sides are .032 material and the -6 is way too short.
Aircraft Sheet Metal by Jeppesen and AC43-13B are both good reference an
d
procedure books.
Roy Szarafinski
roysgarage.com
701 etc.
----- Original Message ----
From: kmccune <kmccune@somtel.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:08:00 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: From 2003 and Mark T
--> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>
Out of curiosity, those who have used the .125" wall angle, did you used
teh standard rivets?
Kevin
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