---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/20/09: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:55 AM - Re: Dual sticks (Larry) 2. 07:22 AM - Degree Setting (Joenan1934@aol.com) 3. 07:22 AM - Re: Dual sticks (Carlos Sa) 4. 08:01 AM - Re: Rudder Spacer - The search for a straight edge (n85ae) 5. 08:28 AM - Re: Degree Setting (Robert Pelland) 6. 03:40 PM - A good reason to own a 701 (Dan Wilde) 7. 04:43 PM - Re: A good reason to own a 701 (Mark Sherman) 8. 07:22 PM - No slats (mksoucy@yahoo.com) 9. 08:12 PM - Re: No slats (John Bolding) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:12 AM PST US From: Larry Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Dual sticks Don't cut the "Y" off. If you can weld then it is not difficult to duplicate the bottom part and make a complete dual system. That way you have both. All I have to do to replace the duals with the "Y" is remove two bolts and unplug the wiring. Then you can switch back and forth. Let us know which you like best. Remember when building the sticks, to put a large "C" in them (see my pictures). If you make straight sticks then you will have difficultly getting in and out. With the "C" it real easy to get in and out. Take care, Larry N1345L Joe Spencer wrote: >> Iam about ready to put dual sticks in my 701. You cut the Y stick off at >> the connecting point, then weld a 24 inch tube from left to right. Then weld >> two upright sticks on top of the horizonial tube. I assume you put the >> elevator in zero position then weld the upright sticks. Iam told that the >> upright sticks should be moved forward about 20 degrees before you weld them. > > The thing that bothers me about this arrangement, if I understand it correctly(and I haven't seen a drawing) is that the grip is offset from the pivot...so when moving it left to right you get a bunch of vertical travel too. Maybe in practice it isn't noticeable, but I don't like the idea of it...kinda weird seeming, like the rest of the plane. Certainly not for the purists. I'm sticking with the Y > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:16 AM PST US From: Joenan1934@aol.com Subject: Zenith701801-List: Degree Setting I ask one question regarding dual sticks and unless I missed it no one gave me the answer I ask for. How many degrees forward on the sticks. I have been in both and from the start there was no question which one I wanted. Still no one has answered my question, but has given me tons of advice that I didn`t ask for. How many DEGREES? Joseph ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:20 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Dual sticks From: Carlos Sa Here's what Michel Therrien did on his CH601-HD (removable "Y"): http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/chcontrols2.htm Carlos 2009/8/20 Larry > > Don't cut the "Y" off. If you can weld then it is not difficult to > duplicate the bottom part and make a complete dual system. That way you > have both. All I have to do to replace the duals with the "Y" is remove two > bolts and unplug the wiring. Then you can switch back and forth. Let us > know which you like best. > Remember when building the sticks, to put a large "C" in them (see my > pictures). If you make straight sticks then you will have difficultly > getting in and out. With the "C" it real easy to get in and out. > > Take care, Larry N1345L > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:00 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Rudder Spacer - The search for a straight edge From: "n85ae" I'm finished with all the structural assembly on my CH801, but working on detail stuff like electrical, paint, etc. My advice is to take ALL of Zenith's jigging recommendations with a huge grain of salt. I pretty much got frustrated with their ways of doing things, and switched to using a el-cheapo laser level which casts a really nice red line, and jigging assemblies straight with wood scraps which I simply screw to my work table with drywall screws. This has worked out to be a much faster, and more accurate method than what I was experiencing following the manual. So my personal vote for invaluable tool is 'Stanley Laser Level'. Regards, Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258833#258833 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:23 AM PST US From: "Robert Pelland" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Degree Setting Joseph, You would be surprised at how much better the communications will be if you remain polite, and do not SHOUT at anyone. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: Joenan1934@aol.com To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Degree Setting I ask one question regarding dual sticks and unless I missed it no one gave me the answer I ask for. How many degrees forward on the sticks. I have been in both and from the start there was no question which one I wanted. Still no one has answered my question, but has given me tons of advice that I didn`t ask for. How many DEGREES? Joseph ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:40:11 PM PST US From: Dan Wilde Subject: Zenith701801-List: A good reason to own a 701 I just received a flyer from Columbia (California) airport advertising new hangers for rent. The cheapest one was $500 per month or you could own it for only $109,000. Dan Wilde Flying from home and loving it. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:27 PM PST US From: "Mark Sherman" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: A good reason to own a 701 Hey Dan: I just received a card form Merced, they have a T hanger for $160 a month. That's not bad if you live in Merced. That's one of those good news bad news things. Mark S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Wilde" Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:37 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: A good reason to own a 701 > > I just received a flyer from Columbia (California) airport advertising new > hangers for rent. The cheapest one was $500 per month or you could own it > for only $109,000. > > Dan Wilde > Flying from home and loving it. > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:23 PM PST US From: "mksoucy@yahoo.com" Subject: Zenith701801-List: No slats New to list. Is anyone out there flying with no slats and how's it working out. Thanks Mike Sent from my iPod ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:20 PM PST US From: "John Bolding" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: No slats hundreds of posts on the subject. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: No slats > > > New to list. Is anyone out there flying with no slats and how's it working > out. > > Thanks > > Mike > > Sent from my iPod > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith701801-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith701801-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith701801-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith701801-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.