Zenith701801-List Digest Archive

Sat 09/26/09


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 07:15 AM - 701 nose wheel weight (Larry)
     2. 09:31 AM - Re: 701 nose wheel weight (Dan Wilde)
     3. 06:45 PM - opening door in flight (Tracy)
     4. 07:40 PM - Re: opening door in flight (John Marzulli)
     5. 08:43 PM - Re: opening door in flight (JG)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:15:13 AM PST US
    From: Larry <lrm@skyhawg.com>
    Subject: 701 nose wheel weight
    Would some of you let me know what your 701 nose weighs are and with what engines? Thanks, Larry


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    Time: 09:31:00 AM PST US
    From: Dan Wilde <dwilde@clearwire.net>
    Subject: Re: 701 nose wheel weight
    Larry wrote: > > Would some of you let me know what your 701 nose weighs are and with > what engines? Thanks, Larry > Larry: My empty weight with the 912S (100 HP) was 154 lbs. Dan Wilde


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    Time: 06:45:30 PM PST US
    From: Tracy <pbuttles@charter.net>
    Subject: opening door in flight
    has anyone moded the new style buble doors to open in flight? i need to do that for a guy and thinking of strenghting the hinge area and installing 2 gas struts to do it any other thoughts?


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    Time: 07:40:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: opening door in flight
    From: John Marzulli <john.marzulli@gmail.com>
    It seems like opening the bubble doors in flight would be a terrible idea. They have a large surface area combined with a cup shape. This would in the least create a large pitch variation and adverse yaw if not opened on both sides. The forces exerted against the frame and hinge would be large given the long length. If the hinge did not give out, then at least a large stress will be placed on the subframe there. If the door did come off then the risk to catastrophic damage to the tail seems great. Wasn't there an indicdent mentioned on the list where the door popped open in flight causing it to tear off and hit the tail? John Marzulli http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/ http://MarzulliPhoto.net/ http://701Builder.blogspot.com/ On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Tracy <pbuttles@charter.net> wrote: > > has anyone moded the new style buble doors to open in flight? > i need to do that for a guy and thinking of strenghting the hinge area and > installing 2 gas struts to do it > any other thoughts? > >


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    Time: 08:43:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: opening door in flight
    From: JG <vgstol@bigpond.net.au>
    Have a look at http://www.stolspeed.com/701-door-warning A second incident has since happened with a Savannah. This time the door didn't rip off, but got badly mangled. An open door like that can ride nice and stable until the 80kt airflow catches it wrong, and then all hell breaks loose! Take care..... JG On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM, John Marzulli <john.marzulli@gmail.com>wrote: > It seems like opening the bubble doors in flight would be a terrible idea. > They have a large surface area combined with a cup shape. > > This would in the least create a large pitch variation and adverse yaw if > not opened on both sides. > > The forces exerted against the frame and hinge would be large given the > long length. If the hinge did not give out, then at least a large stress > will be placed on the subframe there. > > If the door did come off then the risk to catastrophic damage to the tail > seems great. > > > Wasn't there an indicdent mentioned on the list where the door popped open > in flight causing it to tear off and hit the tail? > > John Marzulli > > http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/ > http://MarzulliPhoto.net/ > http://701Builder.blogspot.com/ > > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Tracy <pbuttles@charter.net> wrote: > >> >> has anyone moded the new style buble doors to open in flight? >> i need to do that for a guy and thinking of strenghting the hinge area and >> ins===== >> , 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, >> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List" >> target="_blank"======== >> http://forums.mle, List Admin. >> ==== >> >> >> >> <http://forums.matronics.com/> > > > * > > * > >




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