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0. 12:33 AM - Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:49 AM - Re: 801 HS Rib Saga (Jake Crause)
2. 04:24 PM - 801 Slats (akskydiver)
3. 09:59 PM - 701 wheels and brakes (Les Goldner)
4. 11:52 PM - Re: 801 Slats (n801bh@netzero.com)
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| Subject: | Re: 801 HS Rib Saga |
The 801-drawings do not give any detail on part dimensions.- I would ne
ed to reverse engineer them.- Not rocket science but more of an undertaki
ng than if I had templates.=0A=0AI've had trouble with several parts since
the start of this build.- Only with holes being drilled off-set from wher
e they should be, never with actual damage to the part.- For instance, on
the rudder spar, the lines of pre-drilled holes were several mm to one sid
e all the way along the spar.- My elevator skin had holes drilled closer
to the edge on one side than the other with edge distance less that was nee
ded.- The company came up with an acceptable solution but I ended up crim
ping the leading edge when handling it, so I'll buy another skin before mov
ing forward.- Several parts were replaced early on by the good folks down
at Flight Crafters in Florida.- I purchased my tail kit-through them a
nd they dealt with Zeniar to replace the parts.- Since then I've talked d
irectly with Zenair on several-occasions and they have been nothing but h
elpful on the phone and email.- I realize the kit-production was moved
from Zenith in-Missouri to Zenair in
Canada recently and I'm chocking these early problems-up to growing pain
s.=0A=0AOne thing I would like to stress is I'm not unhappy with the 801.
- I understand that building your own airplane is an exercise in patience
and reasoning.- We need to keep one eye in the AC43.13 and one eye on wh
at-we're told on-this list-and by the company.- I don't expect ever
ything to-go together perfectly-and if the company can come up with an
acceptable and strong solution to a problem with a part they sent me, or a
screw up I've made, I'm open to it.--Thanks again for the support guys,
I appreciate it.----=0A=0AJake Crause=0APooler, Ga--- =0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Joe Harrington <cicrn@tel
us.net>=0ATo: zenith701801-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, November 6, 2009
11:28:23 PM=0ASubject: Re: Zenith701801-List: 801 HS Rib Saga=0A=0A6061 T6
is pretty common. Often used when fabricating aluminum service truck bodie
s, semi trailers, etc. Thickness (or lack thereof) may be a problem though.
As a scratch builder, it is also easy for me to say, Get some material to
re-fabricate parts, you will need it. I agree, it will be worthwhile to lea
rn the skills to fabricate parts. Otherwise the project will take longer, w
aiting for parts and will cost more. Do the 801 plans give enough detail?
=0A=0ABTW That piece does look poor.=0A=0AJoe=0A=0A=0AOn 6-Nov-09, at 7:04
PM, Jake Crause wrote:=0A=0ANot too far into it.- My rudder is complete a
nd I'm just getting ready to finish the Horizontal Stab.- I can't argue w
ith you on that one Fritz.- I've been looking around locally to find 6061
but have come up-empty handed.--With Gulfstream-5 miles from my ho
use you would think I could find some.- Everyone I've talked to seems to
get it shipped in.-----=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A___________________________
_____=0AFrom:-fritz <klondike@megalink.net>=0A>To:-zenith701801-list@ma
tronics.com=0A>Sent:-Fri, November 6, 2009 8:07:09 PM=0A>Subject:-Re: Z
enith701801-List: 801 HS Rib Saga=0A>=0A>=0A>Jake-- How far are you into yo
ur project?- -If just starting, you should learn to make your own repla
cement parts, a lot cheaper and saves a lot of time and frustration.-=0A>
Fritz--- do not archive=0A>=0A> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www
.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.
com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="h
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Looking for some help on my slats.- I just finished both sections of the
left slat and the right inboard section.- The right and left inboard slat
skins and ribs are different.- My question, just to make sure I'm not go
ing crazy is:- Are the outboard right and left skins supposed to be diffe
rent too? -The reason I am asking is because-my kit came with-two ide
ntical outboard slat skins.- I thought this was wrong so I talked to zeni
th and had them send me a right skin.- I opened it up today and it looks
just like the other two.- Did they send me another left skin?- If they
are supposed to be the same, i'm having trouble figuring out how to make th
e mounting brackets match my right wing using the precut slots for the slat
mounting brackets.- My guess is, I have two extra left skins and no righ
t skin.- If I am reading the manual wrong, can someone point me in the ri
ght direction?=0A=0AAny help will be greatly appreciated.=0A=0AThanks=0A=0A
Chane-Burk=0AN801Z reserved=0AEverything but half of one slat built on th
e airframe- =0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | 701 wheels and brakes |
I just replaced 6"-wheels and brakes from my 701 with 8" wheels to fit
larger tires. A builder in a hanger near mine, who is building two planes,
immediately bought my old wheels and brakes and asked me if I know of anyone
else who has a set to sell.
If anyone wants to sell their 6" wheels and brakes from a 701, pls email me,
lgold@quantum-associates.com.
Les
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I can't help ya with that. When I built my 801 we had to drill all the h
oles and create all slots so some of the panels could work on each side.
I do remember that when I mated the inner and outer slats where they te
lescope together I didn't have the proper edge distance so I made my win
g pick up points different.
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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From: akskydiver <akskydiver@yahoo.com>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: 801 Slats
Looking for some help on my slats. I just finished both sections of the
left slat and the right inboard section. The right and left inboard sl
at skins and ribs are different. My question, just to make sure I'm not
going crazy is: Are the outboard right and left skins supposed to be d
ifferent too? The reason I am asking is because my kit came with two id
entical outboard slat skins. I thought this was wrong so I talked to ze
nith and had them send me a right skin. I opened it up today and it loo
ks just like the other two. Did they send me another left skin? If the
y are supposed to be the same, i'm having trouble figuring out how to ma
ke the mounting brackets match my right wing using the precut slots for
the slat mounting brackets. My guess is, I have two extra left skins an
d no right skin. If I am reading the manual wrong, can someone point me
in the right direction? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Ch
ane BurkN801Z reservedEverything but half of one slat built on the airfr
ame
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