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1. 04:14 AM - Re: stuck (bryanekholm)
2. 05:29 AM - Re: locking fuel cap (fritz)
3. 05:47 AM - Re: stuck (BokKat)
4. 06:25 AM - water heat for the cockpit (LarryMcFarland)
5. 06:36 AM - water heat for the cockpit (LarryMcFarland)
6. 06:43 AM - Re: water heat for the cockpit (n801bh@netzero.com)
7. 08:11 AM - Re: stuck (Roy Szarafinski)
8. 08:43 AM - Re: stuck (Randy L. Thwing)
9. 08:50 AM - Re: stuck (Carlos Sa)
10. 11:35 AM - un-stuck ! (Carlos Sa)
11. 01:13 PM - 701 Upholstery (Chuck Deiterich)
12. 02:23 PM - Re: locking fuel cap (dashwood)
13. 02:57 PM - Re: Re: locking fuel cap (Randy L. Thwing)
14. 03:47 PM - Re: water heat for the cockpit (n801bh@netzero.com)
15. 06:38 PM - Re: 701 Upholstery (Les Goldner)
16. 08:10 PM - Re: water heat for the cockpit (Larry)
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Try using a little penetrating oil and then either wiggle it out like you were
doing or us a punch and rap it out if you can figure out a way to get by the flange
on the other side.
Bryan Ekholm
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Bryan Ekholm
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| Subject: | Re: locking fuel cap |
Is this a case of "damn'd if you do, and damn'd if you don't"? If you lock
the cap, there are other ways to get the fuel out, remove the lower tank
drain, or use the drain?----- punch a hole in the tank ?
Some folks are not aware of the stiff penalties of "messing with aircraft",
probably a stupid quesiton, but would a warning sign help?????
Feed back----- to lock or not lock ????????
Sorry to hear folks are stooping this low.
Fritz--------------- do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "dashwood" <dashwoodlock@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: locking fuel cap
> <dashwoodlock@hotmail.com>
>
> is anyone using locking caps for the wing tanks on a 701 circa 1994. the
> opening is 1 1/2 " and is like the old automotive type cap with the two
> tabs the go 1/2 turn and hold cap in place. the new plastic ones for autos
> are not going to work. my dad had one on his car and i still remember
> putting the key into the round chrome cap. that was my job at refueling
> time.
> had 60L of fuel walk away by itself last night. and a damaged cap as well.
> they walked on it and brock off the vent tube. the game has started . they
> will be back for a fillup.
>
> --------
> Ross Aalexander: CH701 driver 912ul 380tt
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277133#277133
>
>
>
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I'd cut it flush with a Dremel tool and that little fiber cutting wheel,
then drill it out with a pneumatic right angled drill and put in a new
one going right through all layers. If you do enlarge the hole a bit by
doing this put in a small doubler plate as a washer.
Years ago when I went to build my first airplane another experienced
builder told me the number one most important and handy tool to have is
a Dremel tool. A couple of airplanes later having worn out 2 or 3 of
them I sure agree with him.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos Sa
To: zenith-list@matronics.com ; zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:01 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: stuck
This is embarrassing.
I am stuck. Literally. See pictures - this is an A6 pop rivet. It
won't budge, in or out.
Access from the back is rather difficult, as the rear and front rib
are already riveted. The A6 is one of the two last rivets in this
station.
I can remove the rear rib, but that's my last option - and I still
will have a stuck A6 after I remove the rear rib.
Suggestions?
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
stuck
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| Subject: | water heat for the cockpit |
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a best installation of a coolant heater for the cabin.
My heat muff works o.k. down to freezing, but I'm looking at components
that might offer better cabin warming. Perhaps you Canadians have
a list of parts that better describes what you used and
how you made connections within the cabin.
Even pictures would be nice.
Thanks
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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| Subject: | water heat for the cockpit |
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a best installation of a coolant heater for the cabin.
My heat muff works o.k. down to freezing, but I'm looking at components
that might offer better cabin warming. Perhaps you Canadians have
a list of parts that better describes what you used and
how you made connections within the cabin.
Even pictures would be nice.
Thanks
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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| Subject: | Re: water heat for the cockpit |
Larry. Let me dig up the info on my coolant cabin heater. I can keep my
801 at 80` when it is -20 outside.
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
com, zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith701801-List: water heat for the cockpit
ne.com>
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a best installation of a coolant heater for the cabin.
My heat muff works o.k. down to freezing, but I'm looking at components
that might offer better cabin warming. Perhaps you Canadians have
a list of parts that better describes what you used and
how you made connections within the cabin.
Even pictures would be nice.
Thanks
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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I'd-tap or push the nail in, so the bulge in the nail is through the hole
, then-grab the body of the rivet with some locking pliers, -and wiggle
, twist and pull. So what, destroy the rivet, the hole will need re-drilled
-to accept a new A6, but drilling or hammering from the bulge side with
the nail in, expands the rivet, and there is a chance of the drill walking.
Save the hole, destroy the rivet.Roy701 etc.
--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: stuck
This is embarrassing.
I am stuck. Literally. See pictures - this is an A6 pop rivet. It won't bud
ge, in or out.
Access from the back is rather difficult, as the rear and front rib are alr
eady riveted. The A6 is one of the two last rivets in this station.
=0AI can remove the rear rib, but that's my last option - and I still will
have a stuck A6 after I remove the rear rib.
Suggestions?
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
stuck
=0A
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do not archive
Just curious Carlos:
Is the hole the correct size for the A6? In the pic it looks undersize.
Regards,
Randy, Las Vegas
----- Original Message -----
From: Roy Szarafinski
To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: stuck
I'd tap or push the nail in, so the bulge in the nail is through
the hole, then grab the body of the rivet with some locking pliers, and
wiggle, twist and pull. So what, destroy the rivet, the hole will need
re-drilled to accept a new A6, but drilling or hammering from the bulge
side with the nail in, expands the rivet, and there is a chance of the
drill walking. Save the hole, destroy the rivet.
Roy
701 etc.
This is embarrassing.
I am stuck. Literally. See pictures - this is an A6 pop rivet.
It won't budge, in or out.
Access from the back is rather difficult, as the rear and
front rib are already riveted. The A6 is one of the two last rivets in
this station.
I can remove the rear rib, but that's my last option - and I
still will have a stuck A6 after I remove the rear rib.
Suggestions?
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
stuck
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Yes, it is the right size. I did insert with no great difficulty an A6 in
the spar bottom hole.
>From the replies I got, I believe A6 fit much more snugly than the A4 and
A5.
Carlos
still stuck
2009/12/11 Randy L. Thwing <n4546v@mindspring.com>
> do not archive
>
> Just curious Carlos:
>
> Is the hole the correct size for the A6? In the pic it looks undersize.
>
> Regards,
>
> Randy, Las Vegas
>
>
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Stubborn little bugger !!!
I had to support the back of the spar with a 2x4, then hammer the rivet stem
until it got through.
Then I pulled it from the back with pliers.
The remaining material (rivet less the stem) came out easily by pulling from
the from, with pliers.
Geez, what an experience !
Thanks to all that provided suggestions.
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
resuming riveting of centre wing.
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Does ZAC still sell upholstery (seat cushions) for the 701? I could not
find it on their web site. If so, what is cost? (my homemade ones are
getting worn.)
Thanks,
Chuck D.
N701TX
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| Subject: | Re: locking fuel cap |
the field is posted with signs and vidio no gates . was too dark a night with
blowing snow. manager said this is the first time this has ever happened. Have
had a problem with pickups trucks on the runways tearing up the grass but the
brains were apprehended. turned out to be the offspring of some the upper class
in this town. one of the fathers even had a plane at the field. all were prosecuted.
am still looking for alternatives . one suggestion was screens in the filler neck
so a siphon will not go in. still leaves the possibility of contamination though.
--------
Ross Aalexander: CH701 driver 912ul 380tt
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277221#277221
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| Subject: | Re: locking fuel cap |
Do not archive
Hello Ross:
Sorry to hear of your problem. Since you speak of fuel in Litres, I's
guessing you're in Canada? What do the Autorities say about investigating?
Have you considered these:
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This is just an example, tons of models are available. Others have
infra-red flash for at night. Do an internet search for "game scouting
cameras" or "trail cameras" They are around everywhere.
I'm about to put one up on my garage for reasons similar to yours.
Best of luck,
Randy, Las Vegas
----- Original Message -----
From: "dashwood" <dashwoodlock@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:23 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: locking fuel cap
> <dashwoodlock@hotmail.com>
>
> the field is posted with signs and vidio no gates . was too dark a night
> with blowing snow. manager said this is the first time this has ever
> happened. Have had a problem with pickups trucks on the runways tearing up
> the grass but the brains were apprehended. turned out to be the offspring
> of some the upper class in this town. one of the fathers even had a plane
> at the field. all were prosecuted.
> am still looking for alternatives . one suggestion was screens in the
> filler neck so a siphon will not go in. still leaves the possibility of
> contamination though.
>
> --------
> Ross Aalexander: CH701 driver 912ul 380tt
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| Subject: | Re: water heat for the cockpit |
This is the one I used.. Price went up alot since I bought mine but it w
orks great and the feature of defroster vents sold me. I can deice my wi
ndscreen darn fast too. You can make a heater using a small heater core
and a muffin fan but probably not get the BTU's to keep you warm enough.
.
http://www.jcwhitney.com/Under_Dash-mount_Heater_with_Defroster_Duct_Hos
e?ID=12;0;0;0;100001;ProductName;0;0;0;0;2002939;0;0
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
com, zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith701801-List: water heat for the cockpit
ne.com>
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a best installation of a coolant heater for the cabin.
My heat muff works o.k. down to freezing, but I'm looking at components
that might offer better cabin warming. Perhaps you Canadians have
a list of parts that better describes what you used and
how you made connections within the cabin.
Even pictures would be nice.
Thanks
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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Chuck
The west coast Zenith outlet, Quality Sport Planes
(http://www.qualitysportplanes.com/), offers nice looking seat cushions.
Les
From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck
Deiterich
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:08 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: 701 Upholstery
Does ZAC still sell upholstery (seat cushions) for the 701? I could not find
it on their web site. If so, what is cost? (my homemade ones are getting
worn.)
Thanks,
Chuck D.
N701TX
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| Subject: | Re: water heat for the cockpit |
I use a heater core out of a mid 80s Subaru. It all aluminum with 3/8"
barbed fittings, seems strong and very light. I boxed it in with a 12v
computer fan and piping for defrosters. It would be very difficult to
take pictures now. Take care, Larry, N1345L
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