---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/28/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:48 AM - Re: Re: Bending Extruded Angle? (John Swartout) 2. 12:51 AM - Re: Bending Extruded Angle? (John Swartout) 3. 06:30 AM - Re: Bending Extruded Angle? (Chris Blackmore) 4. 07:58 AM - Chat (George Race) 5. 07:44 PM - Jet Power For Zenair Stol (Curt Thompson) 6. 08:24 PM - Re: Jet Power For Zenair Stol (Bob Percival) 7. 10:03 PM - Re: Jet Power For Zenair Stol (Craig Payne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: Bending Extruded Angle? From: John Swartout Aha! The arbor press! I like it. But, I don't own one. Might be able to simulate one though. I live about 260 miles from you. If all else fails, I'll drop you a line and plan a trip. Thanks, Ron. John CH-801 90% done. On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Ron Lendon wrote: > > > > It really doesn't need to be trial and error. If you control to process > and keep the bending between the tangent lines, you just sneak up on it. > The extruded angles will need to be bent and flattened as you go along. > > Here is a link of a setup I used to bend the upper longerons on my XL. > > > http://mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=rlendon&project=113&category=4167&log=81730&row=54 > > If you are anywhere near me I can probably do this for you in a couple of > hours. > > -------- > Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI > WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing > Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) > http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon > Corvair Engine Prints: > http://home.comcast.net/~rlendon/site/ > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278975#278975 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:17 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Bending Extruded Angle? From: John Swartout Look for a what? I'll ask around, see if I can find a heating person that's done it. Thanks. John Do not archive. On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Chris Blackmore wrote: > Go to a tin basher....'Heating people', they do it all the time, Or go > to a sale and look for a > Chris > > *-------Original Message-------* > > *From:* John Swartout > *Date:* 27/12/2009 7:57:46 AM > *To:* zenith701801-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Zenith701801-List: Bending Extruded Angle? > > You said the evil words, Keith, "trial and error." I got usable results on > an 18" piece of 3/4 x 3/4 x 0.090 just clamping it in the vise and > manhandling it a little at a time, but this time I want to bend the last 14" > of two 6.5-foot pieces, and that stuff is expensive. I just ordered some > shorter pieces to practice on in case I couldn't find someone who is > equipped to do it right the first time, but I'd rather not do trial > and error. > > John > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Keith Ashcraft wrote: > Boy John, > Tough one. I have see some guys bend some angle, using the hardwood form > and some pipe clamps.(do a Google search for pipe clamps). You clamp the > starting point of the bend, and then slowly work your way along the radius > bend until you have your 14". That would be a trial-and-error thing for me. > > Good luck, > > Keith > CH701 - scratch > N 38.9940 > W 105.1305 > Alt. 9,100' > ********************************************************** > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* John Swartout > *To:* zenith701801-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Sat, December 26, 2009 7:06:44 PM > *Subject:* Zenith701801-List: Bending Extruded Angle? > > Does anyone know what kind of shop would have a tool that would put a nice > smooth 4-foot radius bend 14" long into a piece of extruded angle 6061-T6, > 1.25" x 0.75" x 0.125t, with the bend stretching the outer edge of the 0.75 > flange? This is aluminum angle with the radiused inner corner. > I can probably do it with a grooved hardwood form and a rubber mallet, but > I'd gladly pay somebody to do it for me that could assure perfect results > the first time. > > John > > * > > * > > > * > > "_blank">www.aeroelectric.com > .com/" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com > ank">www.howtocrimp.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List > ttp://forums.matronics.com > * > > > * > electric.com > om">www.buildersbooks.commebuilthelp.commp.comww.matronics.com/contribution > -List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-Listonics.com > * > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:24 AM PST US From: "Chris Blackmore" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Bending Extruded Angle? John Just read a page where the person took a piece of wood, cut a notch,cut t he angle required plus some???? Lots of grease and just bend( I presume this means hammering with a soft hammer?)!! Or I wonder if just pulling it lik e an English wheel! Chris -------Original Message------- From: John Swartout Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Bending Extruded Angle? Look for a what? I'll ask around, see if I can find a heating person that's done it. Than ks. John Do not archive. On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Chris Blackmore wrote: Go to a tin basher....'Heating people', they do it all the time, Or go to a sale and look for a Chris -------Original Message------- From: John Swartout Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Bending Extruded Angle? You said the evil words, Keith, "trial and error." I got usable results on an 18" piece of 3/4 x 3/4 x 0.090 just clamping it in the vise and manhandling it a little at a time, but this time I want to bend the last 14" of two 6.5-foot pieces, and that stuff is expensive. I just ordered som e shorter pieces to practice on in case I couldn't find someone who is equipped to do it right the first time, but I'd rather not do trial and error. John On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Keith Ashcraft wrote: Boy John, Tough one. I have see some guys bend some angle, using the hardwood form and some pipe clamps.(do a Google search for pipe clamps). You clamp the starting point of the bend, and then slowly work your way along the radiu s bend until you have your 14". That would be a trial-and-error thing for m e. Good luck, Keith CH701 - scratch N 38.9940 W 105.1305 Alt. 9,100' ********************************************************** From: John Swartout Sent: Sat, December 26, 2009 7:06:44 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Bending Extruded Angle? Does anyone know what kind of shop would have a tool that would put a nic e smooth 4-foot radius bend 14" long into a piece of extruded angle 6061-T6 , 1 25" x 0.75" x 0.125t, with the bend stretching the outer edge of the 0.75 flange? This is aluminum angle with the radiused inner corner. I can probably do it with a grooved hardwood form and a rubber mallet, bu t I d gladly pay somebody to do it for me that could assure perfect results t he first time. 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Glacial Pace From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Curt Thompson Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Jet Power For Zenair Stol I just ran across this: http://www.vidoemo.com/yvideo.php?i=MENsRFgtcWuRpTm1BdTQ&jet-power-for- z enair-stol Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 12/28/09 12:32:00 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:26 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith701801-List: Jet Power For Zenair Stol This looks like the same guy: http://www.zenithair.com/misc/turbine-power.html No updates since the early 21st century. I couldn't find a date on the video. -- Craig _____ From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Curt Thompson Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:36 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Jet Power For Zenair Stol I just ran across this: http://www.vidoemo.com/yvideo.php?i=MENsRFgtcWuRpTm1BdTQ &jet-power-for-zenair-stol ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith701801-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith701801-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith701801-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith701801-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.