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1. 07:39 AM - Adhesive (Bob Gibfried)
2. 08:54 AM - Chat (George Race)
3. 09:46 AM - Re: Adhesive (LarryMcFarland)
4. 11:04 AM - Spinner installation? (John Marzulli)
5. 11:10 AM - Re: Adhesive (John Marzulli)
6. 02:28 PM - Re: Adhesive (ray)
7. 05:26 PM - Corvair College Video @ Magnificent Machine (Brady)
8. 05:31 PM - Re: 701 with Jabiru (Brady)
9. 06:11 PM - Re: Spinner installation? (Mark Sherman)
10. 11:24 PM - Re: Mounting horrizonal stab (Gary Gower)
11. 11:29 PM - Re: 701 with Jabiru (Gary Gower)
12. 11:33 PM - Re: Matco wheel upgrade (Gary Gower)
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Has anyone found and vinyl or foam rubber adhesive that works in cold
weather. Need to reglue some of my upholstery but it's not holding at 10
degrees.
Bob
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Bob,
You're going to have to warm the materials to above 65-degrees F and
then apply. 3M Formula 77 is a good spray adhesive that holds well once
cured.
It won't cure well below 65 degrees F, but will hold tenaciously to -40
degrees F after the cure. Take the materials indoors to a good ambient
temp and allow
the materials to thaw. Clean the surfaces of old adhesive and/or paint
and then start over, spray, let set a couple of minutes, press contact
surfaces together
and allow it all to cure for a day.
Larry McFarland
Bob Gibfried wrote:
>
> Has anyone found and vinyl or foam rubber adhesive that works in cold
> weather. Need to reglue some of my upholstery but it's not holding at
> 10 degrees.
>
> Bob
>
>
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| Subject: | Spinner installation? |
I ordered my spinner and hub from Zenith as part of the FWF package. It is a
9" UHS for the 3 bladed warp drive.
The fiberglass back of the spinner only has seven holes in it. One in the
center and then six towards the edge that match the holes used to secure the
hub to the prop flange on the engine..
The Zenith construction manual shows a different spinner than they sent me,
one where bolt heads appear to sit recessed into the hub.
So it looks like there are two ways I could secure the spinner:
1. Remove the prop from the flange, then feed the hub bolts through the
spinner's back into the hub.
2. Get six more bolts and drill six holes that match the inner ring of
holes on the hub, then drill out the out ring on the spinner.
The first choice worries me since the fiberglass would be crushed at the
torque values required for the hub bolts.
The second choice seems like a good way to get the spinner off center.
Has anyone done this before?
Thanks,
John Marzulli
http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/
http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
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I'll second using 3M #77.
I have added some sound deadening material to the inspection/controls bay. I
have snagged it a few times while working back there and the glue has held
VERY firmly.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
John Marzulli
http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/
http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:46 AM, LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>wrote:
> larry@macsmachine.com>
>
> Bob,
> You're going to have to warm the materials to above 65-degrees F and then
> apply. 3M Formula 77 is a good spray adhesive that holds well once cured.
> It won't cure well below 65 degrees F, but will hold tenaciously to -40
> degrees F after the cure. Take the materials indoors to a good ambient temp
> and allow
> the materials to thaw. Clean the surfaces of old adhesive and/or paint and
> then start over, spray, let set a couple of minutes, press contact surfaces
> together
> and allow it all to cure for a day.
>
> Larry McFarland
>
>
> Bob Gibfried wrote:
>
>>
>> Has anyone found and vinyl or foam rubber adhesive that works in cold
>> weather. Need to reglue some of my upholstery but it's not holding at 10
>> degrees.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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I've been using 3M weatherstripping adhesive in a tube on a variety of
projects. Seems similar to the 77 spray except in a tube. I haven't
tried it in a cold environment.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.
Bob Gibfried wrote:
>
> Has anyone found and vinyl or foam rubber adhesive that works in cold
> weather. Need to reglue some of my upholstery but it's not holding at
> 10 degrees.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Corvair College Video @ Magnificent Machine |
For those of you that couldn't make it to the Corvair college; here is a video
that was taken during the event.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_1ov0DAbe8
If you can, plan to make an event, I highly recommend it!
Happy New Year!
Brady
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Brady McCormick
Poulsbo, WA
www.magnificentmachine.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279967#279967
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| Subject: | Re: 701 with Jabiru |
lgold(at)quantum-associat wrote:
> I think he said that
> they were 100 or 120 HP, but am not certain of this.
> Les
>
> --
The 2200 is 85HP.
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Brady McCormick
Poulsbo, WA
www.magnificentmachine.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279970#279970
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| Subject: | Re: Spinner installation? |
John.
Yes, the spinner backing plate goes between the prop and the engine
flange. If the flange holes don't line up with the spinner backing
plate they sent you the wrong spinner.
Mark S.
701/912ULS
80 hours and waiting for the fog to clear. (outside, not the fog in my
head)
----- Original Message -----
From: John Marzulli
To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Spinner installation?
I ordered my spinner and hub from Zenith as part of the FWF package.
It is a 9" UHS for the 3 bladed warp drive.
The fiberglass back of the spinner only has seven holes in it. One in
the center and then six towards the edge that match the holes used to
secure the hub to the prop flange on the engine..
The Zenith construction manual shows a different spinner than they
sent me, one where bolt heads appear to sit recessed into the hub.
So it looks like there are two ways I could secure the spinner:
1.. Remove the prop from the flange, then feed the hub bolts through
the spinner's back into the hub.
2.. Get six more bolts and drill six holes that match the inner ring
of holes on the hub, then drill out the out ring on the spinner.
The first choice worries me since the fiberglass would be crushed at
the torque values required for the hub bolts.
The second choice seems like a good way to get the spinner off center.
Has anyone done this before?
Thanks,
John Marzulli
http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/
http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Mounting horrizonal stab |
I installed everything as the plans,- made the Jig (no big deal).
280 hrs of great fun flying...- is worth it.
-
Saludos
Gary Gower
701 912S
Flting from Chapala, Mexico.
--- On Fri, 1/1/10, philip smith <madriver@wildblue.net> wrote:
From: philip smith <madriver@wildblue.net>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Mounting horrizonal stab
OK you Gurus of 701;
-
I'm in a quandary on two points:
-
One - when you figure the elevator deflection up and down.--Do you star
t from neutral on the top of the elevator and use an electronic level?- O
r do you (if your using a level) start from a line from the hinge pin - cen
ter of rotation - to the center of the trailing edge.- Don't want to buil
d the jig as shown on Zenith drawings if I don't have to.
-
Now the next question - when mounting the horizontal stabilizer to the fuse
lage it shows a dimension of 135 mm from the top of the spar - front and re
ar - to an A-E reference line.- If-I do this-the lower elevator horn
-seems -to have a lot of interference to the upper -rudder mounting p
late.- It shows to "cut out the offending area" but that would really "bi
te" into the elevator horn structure in my situation. Can you mount the sta
b higher to aviod some of this or what.
-
Is there a trick that I can't seem to resolve - let me know ASAP - I've alr
eady spent the morning in the shop trying to sort this out.
-
Thanks
-
Phil
-
701 - Buhl ID - only a few more bolts
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Probably was a Rotax seller :-)- :-)- :-)- :-)
-
Please DO NOT ARCHIVE.- New year joke!!!
--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Les Goldner <lgold@quantum-associates.com> wrote:
From: Les Goldner <lgold@quantum-associates.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith701801-List: 701 with Jabiru
iates.com>
I have no first-hand experience with Jabiru, but at AirVenture met a guy wh
o
said he runs a big flying school Australia. He told me that he had to pull
out the Jabiru engines from all of his planes because of bad performance an
d
because Jabiru did not standing behind their product. I think he said that
they were 100 or 120 HP, but am not certain of this.
Les
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
frank.goodnight
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: 701 with Jabiru
<frank.goodnight@att.net>
I hope you get some good answers, I'm thinking about the same thing .-
So far I haven't been able to get much info. I"ve tried jabiru usa-
about the engine, but they won't
even answer my e mail much less give me the TBO and other info i've-
asked for, makes me wonder how much service I would get if I bought-
their engine.
Good luck.
Frank Goodnight
Brownsville , TX.
On Dec 31, 2009, at 10:49 AM, rogwibb wrote:
>
> Is anyone on this forum flying a 701 with a Jabiru 2200, preferably-
> without slats, and VG's on the wings and elevator.- I'm about 30%-
> complete, and am leaning towards this configuration, but would like-
> any airspeeds that you have been experiencing such as stall speed,-
> and approach.- I don't want to hurt myself the first time around the-
> pattern.
>
> Roger
> Atwater, Ca.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279422#279422
>
>
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Matco wheel upgrade |
No.- Original kit rims...- 280 hrs (at least 5 landings (almost) every
-saturday--to give rides to friends, also as demo rides... No problem
, grass strip,- still original tires.
-
Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
701 912S
--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Chuck Deiterich <cffd@pgrb.com> wrote:
From: Chuck Deiterich <cffd@pgrb.com>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Matco wheel upgrade
Are any of you 701/750/801 drivers upgrading to the new Matco rims?
I am trying to decide if it is really a safety issue.
-
Chuck D.
N701TX
Jab 2200
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