---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/07/10: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:41 AM - Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? (Geoff Heap) 2. 09:30 AM - Re: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? (BokKat) 3. 10:40 AM - Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? (sonar1@cox.net) 4. 10:50 AM - Re: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? (Craig Payne) 5. 10:59 AM - Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? (Geoff Heap) 6. 12:11 PM - Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? (Geoff Heap) 7. 07:45 PM - elevator (sam hord) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:07 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? From: "Geoff Heap" Votes are coming in. Ameri-king seems to be in the lead but what models have you purchased. The 450 is 121MHz and therefore pointless. All 451's are 406MHz The 451-2 is a little under $1000. It has no GPS and is accurate to 1-2 kilometers. the 451-? with GPS is at least twice the price. However I don't think it actually has a GPS unit inside it. Reading about it I see that they offer an interface only for the extra cost. The only GPS I can find where they actually state that THERE IS AN ACTUAL GPS INSIDE. NO NEED FOR AN INTERFACE HERE is the one craig mentioned. Aircraft spruce 406 ELT W/ INTERNAL GPS 11-08053 $1360. So Craig. your Artex ME406 is listed at $1949. can you throw some light on this? what do you get for that much. Is it just the interface to connect to your panel mount GPS. I did call Ameri-king and was told that the 451-2 ($764) has no GPS and no interface. Unless someone corrects me it seems like my choice is between the 451-2 with no GPS and accuracy of 1-2 kilometers OR the 406 ELT W/ INTERNAL GPS 11-08053 $1360 from spruce. BTW the "ELT" in the last sentence is the brand name of the unit. "Emerging Lifesaving Technologies" Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280515#280515 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:48 AM PST US From: "BokKat" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? The Ameriking is the cheapest, which is why I bought it. I'd love to have a GPS already included with it, but at the time these weren't available. Maybe they can develop a retrofit! Having flown S & R in the CAP even the non GPS 406 ELT gives tremendous more accuracy than the 121.5. and really narrows the focus of a search though it takes a little more time to lock in then the GPS ones. That, plus a 406 PLB, a SPOT, and a cell phone hopefully will suffice, not that I ever want to test any of them! Never want to see my BRS deployed either! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Heap" Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:39 AM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? > > Votes are coming in. > Ameri-king seems to be in the lead but what models have you purchased. > The 450 is 121MHz and therefore pointless. > All 451's are 406MHz > The 451-2 is a little under $1000. It has no GPS and is accurate to 1-2 > kilometers. > the 451-? with GPS is at least twice the price. However I don't think it > actually has a GPS unit inside it. Reading about it I see that they offer > an interface only for the extra cost. > The only GPS I can find where they actually state that THERE IS AN ACTUAL > GPS INSIDE. NO NEED FOR AN INTERFACE HERE is the one craig mentioned. > Aircraft spruce 406 ELT W/ INTERNAL GPS 11-08053 $1360. > So Craig. your Artex ME406 is listed at $1949. can you throw some light on > this? what do you get for that much. Is it just the interface to connect > to your panel mount GPS. > I did call Ameri-king and was told that the 451-2 ($764) has no GPS and no > interface. > Unless someone corrects me it seems like my choice is between the 451-2 > with no GPS and accuracy of 1-2 kilometers OR the 406 ELT W/ INTERNAL GPS > 11-08053 $1360 from spruce. > BTW the "ELT" in the last sentence is the brand name of the unit. > "Emerging Lifesaving Technologies" > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280515#280515 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:56 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? From: "sonar1@cox.net" I got my airtex ME 406 with a whip antenna for less than a thousand. Don't know why Aircraft Spruce is charging so much. Installed easily. .....Fred....N9701 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280533#280533 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:50:00 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith701801-List: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? Actually there are many versions of the Artex ME406 package. The price partly depends on what antenna is included. For slow airplanes like ours whip is fine and that kit only costs $875: ME406, Spruce p/n 11-03492, Artex ME406 ELT w/ whip antenna. Programmed for US registered aircraft. $875.00 Also there is now a cheap(ish) add-on to connect your existing GPS NMEA output to the ME406: ARTEX ME-232 NAV INTERFACE 11-08036 $250.00 -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Heap Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:40 AM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? --> Votes are coming in. Ameri-king seems to be in the lead but what models have you purchased. The 450 is 121MHz and therefore pointless. All 451's are 406MHz The 451-2 is a little under $1000. It has no GPS and is accurate to 1-2 kilometers. the 451-? with GPS is at least twice the price. However I don't think it actually has a GPS unit inside it. Reading about it I see that they offer an interface only for the extra cost. The only GPS I can find where they actually state that THERE IS AN ACTUAL GPS INSIDE. NO NEED FOR AN INTERFACE HERE is the one craig mentioned. Aircraft spruce 406 ELT W/ INTERNAL GPS 11-08053 $1360. So Craig. your Artex ME406 is listed at $1949. can you throw some light on this? what do you get for that much. Is it just the interface to connect to your panel mount GPS. I did call Ameri-king and was told that the 451-2 ($764) has no GPS and no interface. Unless someone corrects me it seems like my choice is between the 451-2 with no GPS and accuracy of 1-2 kilometers OR the 406 ELT W/ INTERNAL GPS 11-08053 $1360 from spruce. BTW the "ELT" in the last sentence is the brand name of the unit. "Emerging Lifesaving Technologies" Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280515#280515 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:54 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? From: "Geoff Heap" There are 2 Fred. The me406 elt and the me406 hm elt. the HM is twice the price at $1949. Well thanks for the feedback guys. I still don't know what I'll get but I know now what each will do. It's between the 451-2 at $764 and the ELT406GPS (with GPS inside) at $1360........Geoff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280536#280536 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:11:04 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing? From: "Geoff Heap" OK i just called ARTEX The most expensive ($1950) HM models are for helicopters Duh The $1450 models are the same as the $875 model. we're paying @600 extra for the antenna. The ME-232 interface, according to the tech guy I just spoke to, is not in production yet. maybe mid year. ASSCO has none in stock(makes sense) The other interface (NMEA-0183 protocol) is expected at ASSCO next week) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280556#280556 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:21 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: elevator From: sam hord Has anybody changed the elevator cables to push rods? 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