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I built a 701 with a Subaru.- When I was done it was a great one place ai
rplane.- My advice is that if you want 80-100hp build the piet or the 750
.- If you build the 701 I would recommend you not use any engine that wei
ghs over about 125 pounds on it.- It was designed for 45 hp and at 65hp i
t is a hot rod with good payload.- There have been a lot of 80-100hp 701'
s built but most are flown over gross weight regularly.- If you just gott
a have the 100hp spend the little extra cash and build the 750.- If cost
is a factor I would recommend building from plans.- It is more work from
plans but is more rewarding and you will save a bundle. A 750 plans built a
nd a Corvair would be about as economical as it can be.- I am in the proc
ess of building a 750 with a. 0-200.- Please believe me the 750 is a LOT
more airplane than the 701. Its got a lot of beef.-
-
Brett Hanley
267-280-2545
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- ---1. 08:08 AM - New 701 and 582- (Phil)
- ---2. 08:33 AM - Re: New 701 and 582- (fritz)
- ---3. 08:41 AM - Re: New 701 and 582- (Phil)
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________________________________- Message 1- __________________________
___________
Time: 08:08:51 AM PST US
Subject: Zenith701801-List: New 701 and 582
From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
Hello all,
I've been haunting the list for a bit.- Not a lot of traffic lately, but
the archives
are helpful.
I've recently finished my training and gotten my Sport license.- I've bee
n thinking
about building a plane for longer than I care to admit (I think I must be
some kind of expert on at least the variety and types of homebuilt aircraft
),
but two particular options have stayed at the top of my list for a very lon
g
time: a Pietenpol or a CH701.- Obviously, I'm interested in low and slow.
- In
fact, I'd prefer around a 70mph cruise.- I've flown several times in Cubs
, and
I very much like how slowly they trundle over the ground, giving one time t
o
see everything (I'm an aerial sightseer at heart).- I've flown in a ppc,
and would
probably just get one of those if I could get over the fact that you're fly
ing
a series of air-filled fabric tubes, and there was some way around the ridi
culous
setup and takedown process.-
Anyway, I flew in my first CH701 about a week ago, and it was a lovely airp
lane
in every way.- I really like most of its features (the shorter and more s
table
wing, the metal construction, the wonderful control feel, etc).- The only
thing
that pulls me toward the Piet is the lower cost and the open cockpit (which
is both nice and a disadvantage at the same time).- But I'm under no illu
sions
as to how long it would take to build a Piet from scratch.- So, there's t
he
cost issue.
Which, finally, brings me to the point of this post.- (Just wanted to int
roduce
myself a bit and give some background.)-
I understand the economics of the 912 80hp engine (with it's great TBO) and
4-stroke
niceness.- But with the cost of the kit, the cost of even a used lowish-t
ime
912 might be out of my range (if I could find a good one).- A low-time 58
2,
on the other hand, looks good, price-wise, except for that short TBO, and t
he
2-stroke worries.
I know Heintz designed the 701 for a 582, but I'm thinking that was a light
er (smaller?)
plane.- As I've said, I'm not looking for fast cruise performance.
Will the 582 work well on the current kit?- Are there concerns?- Would
I have
to worry more about engine outs?-
Thanks for any insights you can offer.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306319#306319
________________________________- Message 2- __________________________
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Time: 08:33:54 AM PST US
From: "fritz" <klondike@megalink.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New 701 and 582
I've flown 300 hrs in an earlier 701 with the 582.- pros and cons.
But, in making your decision, compare apples with apples---- would you put
the 582 in a Piet?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:08 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: New 701 and 582
>
> Hello all,
>
> I've been haunting the list for a bit.- Not a lot of traffic lately, bu
t
> the archives are helpful.
>
> I've recently finished my training and gotten my Sport license.- I've b
een
> thinking about building a plane for longer than I care to admit (I think
I
> must be some kind of expert on at least the variety and types of homebuil
t
> aircraft), but two particular options have stayed at the top of my list
> for a very long time: a Pietenpol or a CH701.- Obviously, I'm intereste
d
> in low and slow.- In fact, I'd prefer around a 70mph cruise.- I've fl
own
> several times in Cubs, and I very much like how slowly they trundle over
> the ground, giving one time to see everything (I'm an aerial sightseer at
> heart).- I've flown in a ppc, and would probably just get one of those
if
> I could get over the fact that you're flying a series of air-filled fabri
c
> tubes, and there was some way around the ridiculous setup and takedown
> process.
>
> Anyway, I flew in my first CH701 about a week ago, and it was a lovely
> airplane in every way.- I really like most of its features (the shorter
> and more stable wing, the metal construction, the wonderful control feel,
> etc).- The only thing that pulls me toward the Piet is the lower cost a
nd
> the open cockpit (which is both nice and a disadvantage at the same time)
.
> But I'm under no illusions as to how long it would take to build a Piet
> from scratch.- So, there's the cost issue.
>
> Which, finally, brings me to the point of this post.- (Just wanted to
> introduce myself a bit and give some background.)
>
> I understand the economics of the 912 80hp engine (with it's great TBO)
> and 4-stroke niceness.- But with the cost of the kit, the cost of even
a
> used lowish-time 912 might be out of my range (if I could find a good
> one).- A low-time 582, on the other hand, looks good, price-wise, excep
t
> for that short TBO, and the 2-stroke worries.
>
> I know Heintz designed the 701 for a 582, but I'm thinking that was a
> lighter (smaller?) plane.- As I've said, I'm not looking for fast cruis
e
> performance.- Will the 582 work well on the current kit?- Are there
> concerns?- Would I have to worry more about engine outs?
>
> Thanks for any insights you can offer.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306319#306319
>
>
>
________________________________- Message 3- __________________________
___________
Time: 08:41:50 AM PST US
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: New 701 and 582
From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
No, I wouldn't.- I'm pretty sure I'd put in a Corvair engine in the Piet
(but it's
too heavy for the CH701).- I'm not sure what that shows me, though.-
You've got a lot of time with yours.- What are the pros and cons you ment
ion?
And you say yours is an earlier 701.- Would the 582 work on the current 7
01 the
same as on yours?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306326#306326
________________________________- Message 4- __________________________
___________
Time: 09:00:04 AM PST US
From: "fritz" <klondike@megalink.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: New 701 and 582
if you are thinking "Corvair"----- why not Corvair powered Ch 750.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:41 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: New 701 and 582
>
> No, I wouldn't.- I'm pretty sure I'd put in a Corvair engine in the Pie
t
> (but it's too heavy for the CH701).- I'm not sure what that shows me,
> though.
>
> You've got a lot of time with yours.- What are the pros and cons you
> mention?- And you say yours is an earlier 701.- Would the 582 work on
the
> current 701 the same as on yours?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306326#306326
>
>
>
________________________________- Message 5- __________________________
___________
Time: 01:27:53 PM PST US
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: New 701 and 582
From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
Economics.- What I would save on the engine building the 750 with a Corva
ir, I'd
spend on the kit.- It's quite a bit more expensive, and doesn't offer muc
h more
payload.- And, like I said, I'm looking for slow, so the faster cruise fo
r
the 750 is actually a drawback for me.- But I'll look at it some more.
Still very interested to hear the pros and cons of the 582 on the current 7
01 kit.
- Since you have so many hours on yours, your insight into it would be gr
eat!
It's not that I'm wedded to any particular engine.- The Corvair conversio
n is interesting
to me, as it seems to be a good application of auto engines for flying,
and the price is good.- If I had my druthers, I'd probably hang an A-65 o
n
whatever I built.- I can do that with the Piet, but, again, the A65 is to
o heavy
for the 701.-
So, if I build the 701, then it seems like my real engine options (without
exploring
some less well-tried and supported options that I see some people are doing
but that I don't feel qualified to try) are the 80hp 912 (expensive), the
582 (much better price, but 2-stroke, low TBO and concerns over performance
),
or possibly the VW (which I have lots of concerns about).---
I've looked at the archives, and searched on the web, but I don't find much
info
on this particular topic (582 in current 701).
The Zenith guys are all at Oshkosh (as probably at least some of the list f
olks
are....sigh....), but I'll call them in a couple of weeks and see what they
have
to say.- Just thought it would be worth asking here as well.
Thanks.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306358#306358
________________________________- Message 6- __________________________
___________
Time: 01:44:15 PM PST US
From: "David L. Orr" <dlorrzen701@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: New 701 and 582
Phil, a Continental A65,C-75,or a C-85 is not out of the question for the 7
01.
You can go light and leave off the starter and alternator or go with some l
ight
weight accessories. Here is a Youtube video with an A65 on a 701. I got an
e-mail
from the owner of the plane and he cruises at 70 mph.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJsvDkXrPIo&feature=related
David L. Orr
Building a Zenith 701 with a C85. http://www.eaa430.org/projects/orr/orr.ht
m
________________________________- Message 7- __________________________
___________
Time: 07:46:20 PM PST US
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: New 701 and 582
From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
Hmmmm, I might could be talked into hand propping.- What's the weight of
an A65
without those addons?- Wikipedia says 170 lbs.-
Do you know of anyone else who's built a 701 with an A65 or other Continent
al?
I see you're building one with a C85.- What weight is your engine?- I'd
like
to talk to that guy in the video.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306403#306403
le, List Admin.
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nicely said
Fritz ---- do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Brett Hanley
To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:07 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Zenith701801-List Digest: 7 Msgs -
07/26/10
I built a 701 with a Subaru. When I was done it was a great one
place airplane. My advice is that if you want 80-100hp build the piet
or the 750. If you build the 701 I would recommend you not use any
engine that weighs over about 125 pounds on it. It was designed for 45
hp and at 65hp it is a hot rod with good payload. There have been a lot
of 80-100hp 701's built but most are flown over gross weight regularly.
If you just gotta have the 100hp spend the little extra cash and build
the 750. If cost is a factor I would recommend building from plans. It
is more work from plans but is more rewarding and you will save a
bundle. A 750 plans built and a Corvair would be about as economical as
it can be. I am in the process of building a 750 with a. 0-200. Please
believe me the 750 is a LOT more airplane than the 701. Its got a lot of
beef.
Brett Hanley
267-280-2545
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Subject: Zenith701801-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 07/26/10
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1. 08:08 AM - New 701 and 582 (Phil)
2. 08:33 AM - Re: New 701 and 582 (fritz)
3. 08:41 AM - Re: New 701 and 582 (Phil)
4. 09:00 AM - Re: Re: New 701 and 582 (fritz)
5. 01:27 PM - Re: New 701 and 582 (Phil)
6. 01:44 PM - Re: Re: New 701 and 582 (David L. Orr)
7. 07:46 PM - Re: New 701 and 582 (Phil)
________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 08:08:51 AM PST US
Subject: Zenith701801-List: New 701 and 582
From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
Hello all,
I've been haunting the list for a bit. Not a lot of traffic
lately, but the archives
are helpful.
I've recently finished my training and gotten my Sport
license. I've been thinking
about building a plane for longer than I care to admit (I
think I must be
some kind of expert on at least the variety and types of
homebuilt aircraft),
but two particular options have stayed at the top of my list
for a very long
time: a Pietenpol or a CH701. Obviously, I'm interested in
low and slow. In
fact, I'd prefer around a 70mph cruise. I've flown several
times in Cubs, and
I very much like how slowly they trundle over the ground,
giving one time to
see everything (I'm an aerial sightseer at heart). I've flown
in a ppc, and would
probably just get one of those if I could get over the fact
that you're flying
a series of air-filled fabric tubes, and there was some way
around the ridiculous
setup and takedown process.
Anyway, I flew in my first CH701 about a week ago, and it was
a lovely airplane
in every way. I really like most of its features (the shorter
and more stable
wing, the metal construction, the wonderful control feel,
etc). The only thing
that pulls me toward the Piet is the lower cost and the open
cockpit (which
is both nice and a disadvantage at the same time). But I'm
under no illusions
as to how long it would take to build a Piet from scratch.
So, there's the
cost issue.
Which, finally, brings me to the point of this post. (Just
wanted to introduce
myself a bit and give some background.)
I understand the economics of the 912 80hp engine (with it's
great TBO) and 4-stroke
niceness. But with the cost of the kit, the cost of even a
used lowish-time
912 might be out of my range (if I could find a good one). A
low-time 582,
on the other hand, looks good, price-wise, except for that
short TBO, and the
2-stroke worries.
I know Heintz designed the 701 for a 582, but I'm thinking
that was a lighter (smaller?)
plane. As I've said, I'm not looking for fast cruise
performance.
Will the 582 work well on the current kit? Are there
concerns? Would I have
to worry more about engine outs?
Thanks for any insights you can offer.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306319#306319
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 08:33:54 AM PST US
From: "fritz" <klondike@megalink.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New 701 and 582
I've flown 300 hrs in an earlier 701 with the 582. pros and
cons.
But, in making your decision, compare apples with apples----
would you put
the 582 in a Piet?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:08 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: New 701 and 582
>
> Hello all,
>
> I've been haunting the list for a bit. Not a lot of traffic
lately, but
> the archives are helpful.
>
> I've recently finished my training and gotten my Sport
license. I've been
> thinking about building a plane for longer than I care to
admit (I think I
> must be some kind of expert on at least the variety and
types of homebuilt
> aircraft), but two particular options have stayed at the top
of my list
> for a very long time: a Pietenpol or a CH701. Obviously,
I'm interested
> in low and slow. In fact, I'd prefer around a 70mph cruise.
I've flown
> several times in Cubs, and I very much like how slowly they
trundle over
> the ground, giving one time to see everything (I'm an aerial
sightseer at
> heart). I've flown in a ppc, and would probably just get
one of those if
> I could get over the fact that you're flying a series of
air-filled fabric
> tubes, and there was some way around the ridiculous setup
and takedown
> process.
>
> Anyway, I flew in my first CH701 about a week ago, and it
was a lovely
> airplane in every way. I really like most of its features
(the shorter
> and more stable wing, the metal construction, the wonderful
control feel,
> etc). The only thing that pulls me toward the Piet is the
lower cost and
> the open cockpit (which is both nice and a disadvantage at
the same time).
> But I'm under no illusions as to how long it would take to
build a Piet
> from scratch. So, there's the cost issue.
>
> Which, finally, brings me to the point of this post. (Just
wanted to
> introduce myself a bit and give some background.)
>
> I understand the economics of the 912 80hp engine (with it's
great TBO)
> and 4-stroke niceness. But with the cost of the kit, the
cost of even a
> used lowish-time 912 might be out of my range (if I could
find a good
> one). A low-time 582, on the other hand, looks good,
price-wise, except
> for that short TBO, and the 2-stroke worries.
>
> I know Heintz designed the 701 for a 582, but I'm thinking
that was a
> lighter (smaller?) plane. As I've said, I'm not looking for
fast cruise
> performance. Will the 582 work well on the current kit?
Are there
> concerns? Would I have to worry more about engine outs?
>
> Thanks for any insights you can offer.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306319#306319
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 08:41:50 AM PST US
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: New 701 and 582
From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
No, I wouldn't. I'm pretty sure I'd put in a Corvair engine
in the Piet (but it's
too heavy for the CH701). I'm not sure what that shows me,
though.
You've got a lot of time with yours. What are the pros and
cons you mention?
And you say yours is an earlier 701. Would the 582 work on
the current 701 the
same as on yours?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306326#306326
________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Time: 09:00:04 AM PST US
From: "fritz" <klondike@megalink.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: New 701 and 582
if you are thinking "Corvair"----- why not Corvair powered Ch
750.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:41 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: New 701 and 582
>
> No, I wouldn't. I'm pretty sure I'd put in a Corvair engine
in the Piet
> (but it's too heavy for the CH701). I'm not sure what that
shows me,
> though.
>
> You've got a lot of time with yours. What are the pros and
cons you
> mention? And you say yours is an earlier 701. Would the
582 work on the
> current 701 the same as on yours?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306326#306326
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 5
_____________________________________
Time: 01:27:53 PM PST US
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: New 701 and 582
From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
Economics. What I would save on the engine building the 750
with a Corvair, I'd
spend on the kit. It's quite a bit more expensive, and
doesn't offer much more
payload. And, like I said, I'm looking for slow, so the
faster cruise for
the 750 is actually a drawback for me. But I'll look at it
some more.
Still very interested to hear the pros and cons of the 582 on
the current 701 kit.
Since you have so many hours on yours, your insight into it
would be great!
It's not that I'm wedded to any particular engine. The
Corvair conversion is interesting
to me, as it seems to be a good application of auto engines
for flying,
and the price is good. If I had my druthers, I'd probably
hang an A-65 on
whatever I built. I can do that with the Piet, but, again,
the A65 is too heavy
for the 701.
So, if I build the 701, then it seems like my real engine
options (without exploring
some less well-tried and supported options that I see some
people are doing
but that I don't feel qualified to try) are the 80hp 912
(expensive), the
582 (much better price, but 2-stroke, low TBO and concerns
over performance),
or possibly the VW (which I have lots of concerns about).
I've looked at the archives, and searched on the web, but I
don't find much info
on this particular topic (582 in current 701).
The Zenith guys are all at Oshkosh (as probably at least some
of the list folks
are....sigh....), but I'll call them in a couple of weeks and
see what they have
to say. Just thought it would be worth asking here as well.
Thanks.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306358#306358
________________________________ Message 6
_____________________________________
Time: 01:44:15 PM PST US
From: "David L. Orr" <dlorrzen701@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: New 701 and 582
Phil, a Continental A65,C-75,or a C-85 is not out of the
question for the 701.
You can go light and leave off the starter and alternator or
go with some light
weight accessories. Here is a Youtube video with an A65 on a
701. I got an e-mail
from the owner of the plane and he cruises at 70 mph.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJsvDkXrPIo&feature=related
David L. Orr
Building a Zenith 701 with a C85.
http://www.eaa430.org/projects/orr/orr.htm
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Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: New 701 and 582
From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
Hmmmm, I might could be talked into hand propping. What's the
weight of an A65
without those addons? Wikipedia says 170 lbs.
Do you know of anyone else who's built a 701 with an A65 or
other Continental?
I see you're building one with a C85. What weight is your
engine? I'd like
to talk to that guy in the video.
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Good food for thought, Brett. What's a realistic time estimate for building one
of these from scratch? And I'm not a metal worker, but I am handy and have
been a woodworker for a long time, including professionally at times.
I don't know if I mentioned it, but I've only flown in one 701. It was built by
the Czechs and has a 912 (I don't know if it's 80 or 100 ponies, but weight
would be the same, right?). That plane flew very nicely indeed with two FAA normal
people on board. I'm thinking it was built lightly. The owner told me
the empty weight, but I forget it. It was low 600s, I'm pretty sure.
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From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:40 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Zenith701801-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 07/26/10
>
> Good food for thought, Brett. What's a realistic time estimate for
> building one of these from scratch? And I'm not a metal worker, but I am
> handy and have been a woodworker for a long time, including professionally
> at times.
>
> I don't know if I mentioned it, but I've only flown in one 701. It was
> built by the Czechs and has a 912 (I don't know if it's 80 or 100 ponies,
> but weight would be the same, right?). That plane flew very nicely indeed
> with two FAA normal people on board. I'm thinking it was built lightly.
> The owner told me the empty weight, but I forget it. It was low 600s, I'm
> pretty sure.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306448#306448
>
>
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my first scratch built project with no metal working experience was a 701
cut my first sheet of aluminum 1 Feb 96-----first flight 17 Sept 97---------
project was interupted with part time work.------------retired USAF
Fritz do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil" <hopkinsp2@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:40 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Zenith701801-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 07/26/10
>
> Good food for thought, Brett. What's a realistic time estimate for
> building one of these from scratch? And I'm not a metal worker, but I am
> handy and have been a woodworker for a long time, including professionally
> at times.
>
> I don't know if I mentioned it, but I've only flown in one 701. It was
> built by the Czechs and has a 912 (I don't know if it's 80 or 100 ponies,
> but weight would be the same, right?). That plane flew very nicely indeed
> with two FAA normal people on board. I'm thinking it was built lightly.
> The owner told me the empty weight, but I forget it. It was low 600s, I'm
> pretty sure.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306448#306448
>
>
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| Subject: | Solid nose wheel axle. Total nose gear weight |
Hi to all
Replaced my bent axle tube with a solid axle from ZAC. For what it's worth,
the total weight of the entire assembly of wheel, tire, solid axle,aluminum fork(s)and
nose gear strut ready to be slid back in was 17.8 LBS.
While I was at it, I also replaced the 1/4" thick green nylon nose gear bearings
with 1/2" thick oil impregnated UHMW plastic(grey) I machined to see how
they hold up. Also I have tried UHMW wear strips on the "V" notches that center
the nose gear which seem to be doing well. I am doing this to get away from
grease as it attracts dirt and is generally messy
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Zenith 701 #76120
Jabiru 2200A #2456 67 hours
Sensenich Wood 64-PJ-36 Prop
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