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| Subject: | a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
Hello all, I was flying this weekend in the beautiful Appalachian mountains.
I landed at an old friends strip. I had a good landing. As a matter of fact,
I have had no "rough landings" in a while. He wasn't home. Upon takeoff with
2 adults and just as I rotated to lift off, I heard a horrific noise. My
first though was that I had dragged the tail, but I didn't think I had rotated
that severely. Perhaps there was some obstruction that I hit. I had just landed
on that strip and it was asphault. Maybe a dog came out on me. I don't
know what happened, but I soon discovered that my gear was not hanging straight.
I flew back to KJFZ and with my sister holding a fire-extinquisher and both of
us praying, I had a gear-up landing in my 701.
I am a man of faith. I was scared out of my mind. God landed it this time and
boy is he a good pilot. The pictures attached are not staged. This where she
stopped.
Afterword, I went to lowes and bought an angel grinder, a drill, a piece of angle,
and some rubber hose. I put her back on her gear with the help of 2 beefy
newphews. Friends, there isn't a scratch on her except the bolts were severely
bent on the right strut backet, tie-down loop was bent, and the bolt heads
were ground off the rudder horn attachments. The rudder horn is bent a bit and
thus I will replace it I left here in Virginia until I get a new right strut
bracket, some new AN bolts, and a new rudder horn. I thought it best to drive
back from Virginia anyway and let my nerves settle before I took back to the
air.
I have included pictures of the plane where she rested and of the rubber spacers
and aluminum brackets holding the sandwich together. The rubber is old --
I should have replaced it earlier. Could this rubber being old have caused this?
Maybe this post will save someones live. Check those spacers. They are very important.
The Psalmist wrote:
... Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I
go up to the heavens, you are there;... If I rise on the wings of the dawn,...
even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast.
--------
Ernest Jessee
N4931M
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| Subject: | Re: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
couldn't get the 2nd pic on the original... here are the spacers and brackets.
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Ernest Jessee
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| Subject: | Re: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
Ernest,
Thanks for sharing your story and giving credit to the Lord. I have always
had problems with those rubber spacers breaking down and wearing out and
allowing the gear to loosen up to the point it would rock back and forth. I
solved the issue with using the sidewall of a truck tire for spacers and
have not had any issues since. I am glad that you and your sister are safe.
The links for the pictures are not valid and I was unable to open them up.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX/ CH701/ 912S/ 186hrs
--> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "ejessee" <eejessee@us.ibm.com>
Hello all, I was flying this weekend in the beautiful Appalachian
mountains. I landed at an old friends strip. I had a good landing. As a matter
of fact, I have had no "rough landings" in a while. He wasn't home.
Upon takeoff with 2 adults and just as I rotated to lift off, I heard a
horrific noise. My first though was that I had dragged the tail, but I didn't
think I had rotated that severely. Perhaps there was some obstruction that
I hit. I had just landed on that strip and it was asphault. Maybe a dog
came out on me. I don't know what happened, but I soon discovered that my
gear was not hanging straight.
I flew back to KJFZ and with my sister holding a fire-extinquisher and
both of us praying, I had a gear-up landing in my 701.
I am a man of faith. I was scared out of my mind. God landed it this time
and boy is he a good pilot. The pictures attached are not staged. This
where she stopped.
Afterword, I went to lowes and bought an angel grinder, a drill, a piece
of angle, and some rubber hose. I put her back on her gear with the help of
2 beefy newphews. Friends, there isn't a scratch on her except the bolts
were severely bent on the right strut backet, tie-down loop was bent, and
the bolt heads were ground off the rudder horn attachments. The rudder horn
is bent a bit and thus I will replace it I left here in Virginia until I
get a new right strut bracket, some new AN bolts, and a new rudder horn. I
thought it best to drive back from Virginia anyway and let my nerves
settle before I took back to the air.
I have included pictures of the plane where she rested and of the rubber
spacers and aluminum brackets holding the sandwich together. The rubber is
old -- I should have replaced it earlier. Could this rubber being old
have caused this?
Maybe this post will save someones live. Check those spacers. They are
very important.
The Psalmist wrote:
... Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence?
If I go up to the heavens, you are there;... If I rise on the wings of the
dawn,... even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me
fast.
--------
Ernest Jessee
N4931M
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| Subject: | Re: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
I replace the gear mount rubbers every annual with truck side walls like Bob, because
I fly out of dirt strips most of the time. I also found that the cheese
"L" bracket like yours didn't last very long either. So I replaced it with a
piece of 1/2 thick 6060-T6 and that cured the bracket problem. With this maintenance
program and the thick bracket I have had no problems for the last three
years. I feel very secure now flying out of rough dirts strips.
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
Zenith has a urethane part for the UC cushions which does not rot.
Regards, John
CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300
Cell: 719-494-4567
Home: 303-648-3261
In a message dated 8/2/2010 8:43:23 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
NYTerminat@aol.com writes:
Ernest,
Thanks for sharing your story and giving credit to the Lord. I have always
had problems with those rubber spacers breaking down and wearing out and
allowing the gear to loosen up to the point it would rock back and forth. I
solved the issue with using the sidewall of a truck tire for spacers and
have not had any issues since. I am glad that you and your sister are safe.
The links for the pictures are not valid and I was unable to open them up.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX/ CH701/ 912S/ 186hrs
--> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "ejessee" <eejessee@us.ibm.com>
Hello all, I was flying this weekend in the beautiful Appalachian
mountains. I landed at an old friends strip. I had a good landing. As a matter
of fact, I have had no "rough landings" in a while. He wasn't home.
Upon takeoff with 2 adults and just as I rotated to lift off, I heard a
horrific noise. My first though was that I had dragged the tail, but I didn't
think I had rotated that severely. Perhaps there was some obstruction that
I hit. I had just landed on that strip and it was asphault. Maybe a dog
came out on me. I don't know what happened, but I soon discovered that my
gear was not hanging straight.
I flew back to KJFZ and with my sister holding a fire-extinquisher and
both of us praying, I had a gear-up landing in my 701.
I am a man of faith. I was scared out of my mind. God landed it this time
and boy is he a good pilot. The pictures attached are not staged.
This where she stopped.
Afterword, I went to lowes and bought an angel grinder, a drill, a piece
of angle, and some rubber hose. I put her back on her gear with the help of
2 beefy newphews. Friends, there isn't a scratch on her except the bolts
were severely bent on the right strut backet, tie-down loop was bent, and
the bolt heads were ground off the rudder horn attachments. The rudder horn
is bent a bit and thus I will replace it I left here in Virginia until I
get a new right strut bracket, some new AN bolts, and a new rudder horn. I
thought it best to drive back from Virginia anyway and let my nerves
settle before I took back to the air.
I have included pictures of the plane where she rested and of the rubber
spacers and aluminum brackets holding the sandwich together. The rubber is
old -- I should have replaced it earlier. Could this rubber being old
have caused this?
Maybe this post will save someones live. Check those spacers. They are
very important.
The Psalmist wrote:
... Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence?
If I go up to the heavens, you are there;... If I rise on the wings of the
dawn,... even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me
fast.
--------
Ernest Jessee
N4931M
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| Subject: | a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted |
This is what Caleb at Zenith wrote a few weeks back:
"We supply polyurethane blocks for the rubber spacers now, the part number
is 7L2-2A/1. We use those blocks on both top and bottom. We have gotten a
lot better life out of the polyurethane than we ever have using rubber. They
should be a drop in replacement for the rubber that you have."
They are $6.50 each and you need four.
-- Craig
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Zenith has a urethane part for the UC cushions which does not rot.
Regards, John
CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300
Cell: 719-494-4567
Home: 303-648-3261
In a message dated 8/2/2010 8:43:23 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
NYTerminat@aol.com writes:
Ernest,
Thanks for sharing your story and giving credit to the Lord. I have always
had problems with those rubber spacers breaking down and wearing out and
allowing the gear to loosen up to the point it would rock back and forth. I
solved the issue with using the sidewall of a truck tire for spacers and
have not had any issues since. I am glad that you and your sister are safe.
The links for the pictures are not valid and I was unable to open them up.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX/ CH701/ 912S/ 186hrs
Hello all, I was flying this weekend in the beautiful Appalachian
mountains. I landed at an old friends strip. I had a good landing. As a
matter of fact, I have had no "rough landings" in a while. He wasn't
home. Upon takeoff with 2 adults and just as I rotated to lift off, I heard
a horrific noise. My first though was that I had dragged the tail, but I
didn't think I had rotated that severely. Perhaps there was some
obstruction that I hit. I had just landed on that strip and it was
asphault. Maybe a dog came out on me. I don't know what happened, but I
soon discovered that my gear was not hanging straight.
I flew back to KJFZ and with my sister holding a fire-extinquisher and both
of us praying, I had a gear-up landing in my 701.
I am a man of faith. I was scared out of my mind. God landed it this time
and boy is he a good pilot. The pictures attached are not staged. This
where she stopped.
Afterword, I went to lowes and bought an angel grinder, a drill, a piece of
angle, and some rubber hose. I put her back on her gear with the help of 2
beefy newphews. Friends, there isn't a scratch on her except the bolts were
severely bent on the right strut backet, tie-down loop was bent, and the
bolt heads were ground off the rudder horn attachments. The rudder horn is
bent a bit and thus I will replace it I left here in Virginia until I get a
new right strut bracket, some new AN bolts, and a new rudder horn. I
thought it best to drive back from Virginia anyway and let my nerves settle
before I took back to the air.
I have included pictures of the plane where she rested and of the rubber
spacers and aluminum brackets holding the sandwich together. The rubber is
old -- I should have replaced it earlier. Could this rubber being old have
caused this?
Maybe this post will save someones live. Check those spacers. They are very
important.
The Psalmist wrote:
... Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence?
If I go up to the heavens, you are there;... If I rise on the wings of the
dawn,... even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me
fast.
--------
Ernest Jessee
N4931M
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If the link to the attachments doesn't work (like it didn't for me) just
follow the link below "Read this topic online here:" and scroll down:
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307178>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307178#307178
-- Craig
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NYTerminat@aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted
Ernest,
Thanks for sharing your story and giving credit to the Lord. I have always
had problems with those rubber spacers breaking down and wearing out and
allowing the gear to loosen up to the point it would rock back and forth. I
solved the issue with using the sidewall of a truck tire for spacers and
have not had any issues since. I am glad that you and your sister are safe.
The links for the pictures are not valid and I was unable to open them up.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX/ CH701/ 912S/ 186hrs
Hello all, I was flying this weekend in the beautiful Appalachian
mountains. I landed at an old friends strip. I had a good landing. As a
matter of fact, I have had no "rough landings" in a while. He wasn't
home. Upon takeoff with 2 adults and just as I rotated to lift off, I heard
a horrific noise. My first though was that I had dragged the tail, but I
didn't think I had rotated that severely. Perhaps there was some
obstruction that I hit. I had just landed on that strip and it was
asphault. Maybe a dog came out on me. I don't know what happened, but I
soon discovered that my gear was not hanging straight.
I flew back to KJFZ and with my sister holding a fire-extinquisher and both
of us praying, I had a gear-up landing in my 701.
I am a man of faith. I was scared out of my mind. God landed it this time
and boy is he a good pilot. The pictures attached are not staged. This
where she stopped.
Afterword, I went to lowes and bought an angel grinder, a drill, a piece of
angle, and some rubber hose. I put her back on her gear with the help of 2
beefy newphews. Friends, there isn't a scratch on her except the bolts were
severely bent on the right strut backet, tie-down loop was bent, and the
bolt heads were ground off the rudder horn attachments. The rudder horn is
bent a bit and thus I will replace it I left here in Virginia until I get a
new right strut bracket, some new AN bolts, and a new rudder horn. I
thought it best to drive back from Virginia anyway and let my nerves settle
before I took back to the air.
I have included pictures of the plane where she rested and of the rubber
spacers and aluminum brackets holding the sandwich together. The rubber is
old -- I should have replaced it earlier. Could this rubber being old have
caused this?
Maybe this post will save someones live. Check those spacers. They are very
important.
The Psalmist wrote:
... Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence?
If I go up to the heavens, you are there;... If I rise on the wings of the
dawn,... even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me
fast.
--------
Ernest Jessee
N4931M
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Craig, I get the feeling that there was another picture that he tried to
post other than the parts.
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 8/2/2010 2:56:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
craig@craigandjean.com writes:
If the link to the attachments doesn't work (like it didn't for me) just
follow the link below "Read this topic online here:" and scroll down:
_http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307178#307178_
(http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307178)
-- Craig
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I think you are right but at least this gives us one.
-- Craig
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Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: a close call -- rubber spacers dry-rotted
Craig, I get the feeling that there was another picture that he tried to
post other than the parts.
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 8/2/2010 2:56:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
craig@craigandjean.com writes:
If the link to the attachments doesn't work (like it didn't for me) just
follow the link below "Read this topic online here:" and scroll down:
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307178>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307178#307178
-- Craig
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