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1. 11:31 AM - Re: replacing a strut fitting (ejessee)
2. 01:23 PM - Re: Re: Riveting wing skeleton (Ryan Vechinski)
3. 01:45 PM - Re: Re: replacing a strut fitting (Steve Dixon)
4. 03:24 PM - Re: Zenith701801-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 08/05/10 (Steve Kurash)
5. 04:04 PM - Re: Re: Zenith701801-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 08/05/10 (rayj)
6. 05:20 PM - Re: replacing a strut fitting (ejessee)
7. 05:22 PM - Re: Re: replacing a strut fitting (Ernest E Jessee)
8. 05:24 PM - Re: Re: replacing a strut fitting (Flydog1966@aol.com)
9. 06:31 PM - Re: Re: replacing a strut fitting (BobKat)
10. 07:18 PM - Re: Re: Zenith701801-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 08/05/10 (Curt Thompson)
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| Subject: | Re: replacing a strut fitting |
Thanks all,
I have the riveter with the concave head.
I have built a short saw horse to support the fusalage.
I expected I would mark the holes with a sharpie, then center-punch them and drill
them on the ground to avoid slopping the aluminum holes.
I'll go to Harbor Freight and get an Angle drill tonight.
I have bought 2x4's to build a support for the wing.
Thank you very much for all your help.
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Ernest Jessee
N4931M
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| Subject: | Re: Riveting wing skeleton |
Thanks for the heads up!
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Riveting wing skeleton
From: ruruny@aol.com
My fuel tanks=2C main and aux on each wing=2C had a lip where the welding w
as done. It was a pain to remove and install them.
You can rivet the entire skeleton=2C but I left clecos in the rear channels
behind the tank and the channels that are right behind
the tank/tanks. Just made things easier.
Brian
http://www.701builder.com
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| Subject: | Re: replacing a strut fitting |
You probably already know this, but just in case, the concave head riveter is not
a standard concave head but a modified one. I'm replacing all the rivets in
a 701 because the previous builder didn't use the correct head.
Best of luck,
Steve
---- ejessee <eejessee@us.ibm.com> wrote:
Thanks all,
I have the riveter with the concave head.
I have built a short saw horse to support the fusalage.
I expected I would mark the holes with a sharpie, then center-punch them and drill
them on the ground to avoid slopping the aluminum holes.
I'll go to Harbor Freight and get an Angle drill tonight.
I have bought 2x4's to build a support for the wing.
Thank you very much for all your help.
--------
Ernest Jessee
N4931M
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307795#307795
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| Subject: | RE: Zenith701801-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 08/05/10 |
Earnest wrote:
Time: 07:20:34 AM PST US
Subject: Zenith701801-List: replacing a strut fitting
From: "ejessee" <eejessee@us.ibm.com>
Hello,
Per my incident with the worn-out rubber spacers, I have to replace the
strut fitting
on the right side of my 701. I ordered one from Zenith, had it shipped
next day air, and will have it painted tonight for installation on Saturday
morning
at KJFZ.
I am not the builder, so I am not intimately familiar with the attachment of
the
piece. I have a few questions I would appreciate help with.
My name is Steve Kurash, I have built from plans a 701, and have replaced
the wing strut fittings in order to re-paint them when they began to rust.
For a builder of the aircraft, this is definitely a doable project, but is
not an easy one; remembering that this fitting actually holds the wing onto
the airframe, it is also a very important part! As builders of experimental
aircraft, we have/have the ability to apply for, a repairman's certificate
that allows us to repair or maintain the airframe and engine, while buyers
of used or professionally assembled experimental aircraft are not allowed
that privilege.
It has been my observation that the member's of this list are always eager
to assist a builder with anything at all they are struggling with, and this
is what the list is all about. But, we as a group need to be mindful of the
FAA regulations that require a repairman's certificate in order for any
owner of an experimental aircraft to perform repairs and maintenance.
Earnest, please seek the services of an A&P to accomplish your repairs. It's
the law, and it is designed to protect you.
Respectfully,
Steve Kurash
Plans built 701
Planning underway for the plans building of a 750 with Corvair power.
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Zenith701801-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 08/05/10 |
Steve,
What are you advocating? That we check to be sure no one on the list
might break the law with anything they might learn on the list? We don't
know whether or not Earnest may be working with an A&P, or might be an
A&P and not familiar with Zenith designs. This is the internet. How
would we go about verifying anything? Many on this list are outside the
U.S. and are not subjected to the F.A.A.'s regulation.
I would rather help someone repair an airplane correctly than have them
repair it incorrectly.
Let the information flow freely and let Earnest make whatever decision
he choses about the legal aspects of his situation.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
On 08/06/2010 05:22 PM, Steve Kurash wrote:
> --> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "Steve Kurash"<stevekurash@gmail.com>
>
>
> Earnest wrote:
>
> Time: 07:20:34 AM PST US
> Subject: Zenith701801-List: replacing a strut fitting
> From: "ejessee"<eejessee@us.ibm.com>
>
>
> Hello,
> Per my incident with the worn-out rubber spacers, I have to replace the
> strut fitting
> on the right side of my 701. I ordered one from Zenith, had it shipped
> next day air, and will have it painted tonight for installation on Saturday
> morning
> at KJFZ.
>
> I am not the builder, so I am not intimately familiar with the attachment of
> the
> piece. I have a few questions I would appreciate help with.
>
>
> My name is Steve Kurash, I have built from plans a 701, and have replaced
> the wing strut fittings in order to re-paint them when they began to rust.
> For a builder of the aircraft, this is definitely a doable project, but is
> not an easy one; remembering that this fitting actually holds the wing onto
> the airframe, it is also a very important part! As builders of experimental
> aircraft, we have/have the ability to apply for, a repairman's certificate
> that allows us to repair or maintain the airframe and engine, while buyers
> of used or professionally assembled experimental aircraft are not allowed
> that privilege.
>
> It has been my observation that the member's of this list are always eager
> to assist a builder with anything at all they are struggling with, and this
> is what the list is all about. But, we as a group need to be mindful of the
> FAA regulations that require a repairman's certificate in order for any
> owner of an experimental aircraft to perform repairs and maintenance.
>
> Earnest, please seek the services of an A&P to accomplish your repairs. It's
> the law, and it is designed to protect you.
>
> Respectfully,
> Steve Kurash
> Plans built 701
> Planning underway for the plans building of a 750 with Corvair power.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: replacing a strut fitting |
Thanks. I purchased my manual rivet puller from Zenith.
Bought a close-quarters right angel drill at Harbor Freight for $29 -- it will
surely last long enough to install the fitting. I'll take my rechargeable Dewalt
just in case.
Thanks again all for your help. I'll be in touch. I'm leaving for Va at 4AM tomorrow
morning.
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Ernest Jessee
N4931M
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| Subject: | Re: replacing a strut fitting |
Thanks Steve, The riveter I have was purchased from Zenith.
Ernest Jessee
Advisory Software
Engineer
eejessee@us.ibm.com
office: 919-486-3230
mobile: 919-368-6980
From: Steve Dixon <dix39@charter.net>
To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Cc: Ernest E Jessee/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
Date: 08/06/2010 04:44 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: replacing a strut fitting
You probably already know this, but just in case, the concave head rive
ter
is not a standard concave head but a modified one. I'm replacing all th
e
rivets in a 701 because the previous builder didn't use the correct hea
d.
Best of luck,
Steve
---- ejessee <eejessee@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
Thanks all,
I have the riveter with the concave head.
I have built a short saw horse to support the fusalage.
I expected I would mark the holes with a sharpie, then center-punch the
m
and drill them on the ground to avoid slopping the aluminum holes.
I'll go to Harbor Freight and get an Angle drill tonight.
I have bought 2x4's to build a support for the wing.
Thank you very much for all your help.
--------
Ernest Jessee
N4931M
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307795#307795
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| Subject: | Re: replacing a strut fitting |
I did not know that. Exactly how is it different?
No worries, I've got the Zenith one. Just curious.
In a message dated 8/6/2010 4:45:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
dix39@charter.net writes:
You probably already know this, but just in case, the concave head riveter
is not a standard concave head but a modified one. I'm replacing all the
rivets in a 701 because the previous builder didn't use the correct head.
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| Subject: | Re: replacing a strut fitting |
Holy Smokers, Flydog! Unbelievable! What a job! Are you removing
EVERY rivet and replacing them? Just curious.....
From: Flydog1966@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: replacing a strut fitting
I did not know that. Exactly how is it different?
No worries, I've got the Zenith one. Just curious.
In a message dated 8/6/2010 4:45:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
dix39@charter.net writes:
You probably already know this, but just in case, the concave head
riveter is not a standard concave head but a modified one. I'm replacing
all the rivets in a 701 because the previous builder didn't use the
correct head.
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| Subject: | RE: Zenith701801-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 08/05/10 |
Actually Steve, you as an owner of an Experimental/Amateur-Built aircraft
can perform maintenance and even major modifications. It's just that only
an A&P Mechanic or holder of the Repairman's Certificate can do the annual
conditional inspection.
Curt
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Kurash
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:22 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: RE: Zenith701801-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 08/05/10
<stevekurash@gmail.com>
Earnest wrote:
Time: 07:20:34 AM PST US
Subject: Zenith701801-List: replacing a strut fitting
From: "ejessee" <eejessee@us.ibm.com>
Hello,
Per my incident with the worn-out rubber spacers, I have to replace the
strut fitting
on the right side of my 701. I ordered one from Zenith, had it shipped
next day air, and will have it painted tonight for installation on Saturday
morning
at KJFZ.
I am not the builder, so I am not intimately familiar with the attachment of
the
piece. I have a few questions I would appreciate help with.
My name is Steve Kurash, I have built from plans a 701, and have replaced
the wing strut fittings in order to re-paint them when they began to rust.
For a builder of the aircraft, this is definitely a doable project, but is
not an easy one; remembering that this fitting actually holds the wing onto
the airframe, it is also a very important part! As builders of experimental
aircraft, we have/have the ability to apply for, a repairman's certificate
that allows us to repair or maintain the airframe and engine, while buyers
of used or professionally assembled experimental aircraft are not allowed
that privilege.
It has been my observation that the member's of this list are always eager
to assist a builder with anything at all they are struggling with, and this
is what the list is all about. But, we as a group need to be mindful of the
FAA regulations that require a repairman's certificate in order for any
owner of an experimental aircraft to perform repairs and maintenance.
Earnest, please seek the services of an A&P to accomplish your repairs. It's
the law, and it is designed to protect you.
Respectfully,
Steve Kurash
Plans built 701
Planning underway for the plans building of a 750 with Corvair power.
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