---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/16/10: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:32 PM - Tent hangars anyone? Looking for input. (Geoff Heap) 2. 12:59 PM - Re: Tent hangars anyone? Looking for input. (Randall J Hebert) 3. 02:03 PM - Re: Tent hangars anyone? Looking for input. (Dan Wilde) 4. 04:03 PM - Re: Tent hangars anyone? Looking for input. (Gordon) 5. 08:03 PM - Re: Tent hangars anyone? Looking for input. (ruruny@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:32:28 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Tent hangars anyone? Looking for input. From: "Geoff Heap" I am strongly considering purchasing a tent hangar from shelter logic. They can be viewed at. http://www.shelterlogic.com/pk_30x28x16.html This would be for my 701. Shelter logic is the best product I've found. At the grass strip where I will erect it, there is one there that measures 26 wide X 30 deep and 12 high. The guy keeps a Rans S12 in it. The 701 would not fit in this size building. I would have to go to the 30 wide. Unfortunately, at 30 wide the height goes up to 16. My concern is the wind. I'm afraid I'll show up one day and it will be gone. One bright note is that I would be backed up to a wooded area that would protect me from the prevailing westerly winds. I'm looking for any kind of input to help me make a decision. Recommendations? horror stories/warnings? Any thoughts at all. It's a one time expense that could last up to 10 years before it would need a new cover. The product is definitely worth the money. Anyone else own one?......Geoff -------- Dual controls. Dynon 180. Icom 210 Garmin 296. Becker transponder. Sigtronics intercom. Electric flaperons. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319614#319614 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:16 PM PST US From: "Randall J Hebert" Subject: RE: Zenith701801-List: Tent hangars anyone? Looking for input. Geoff I used a cheap canopy in my back yard last year. The biggest problem is anchoring it. If the structure is well fastened and well anchored, the concept is that the canvas will tear away without damaging the structure. That is in an ideal world. When I will put mine back together for my next phase of work, I will do a lot better job of anchoring it. My pipe joints just slipped together, this time I will actually drill and bolt them together, and do a better job of anchoring the posts. All in all I believe they have their place as long as you are aware of the risks :) E-mail me off line if you wish to know more. Randall J Hebert Randall J Hebert & Associates, Inc Consulting Engineers Ph 337-261-1976 Fx 337-261-1977 -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Heap Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:30 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Tent hangars anyone? Looking for input. I am strongly considering purchasing a tent hangar from shelter logic. They can be viewed at. http://www.shelterlogic.com/pk_30x28x16.html This would be for my 701. Shelter logic is the best product I've found. At the grass strip where I will erect it, there is one there that measures 26 wide X 30 deep and 12 high. The guy keeps a Rans S12 in it. The 701 would not fit in this size building. I would have to go to the 30 wide. Unfortunately, at 30 wide the height goes up to 16. My concern is the wind. I'm afraid I'll show up one day and it will be gone. One bright note is that I would be backed up to a wooded area that would protect me from the prevailing westerly winds. I'm looking for any kind of input to help me make a decision. Recommendations? horror stories/warnings? Any thoughts at all. It's a one time expense that could last up to 10 years before it would need a new cover. The product is definitely worth the money. Anyone else own one?......Geoff -------- Dual controls. Dynon 180. Icom 210 Garmin 296. Becker transponder. Sigtronics intercom. Electric flaperons. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319614#319614 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:47 PM PST US From: Dan Wilde Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Tent hangars anyone? Looking for input. On 11/16/2010 12:29 PM, Geoff Heap wrote: > --> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "Geoff Heap" > > I am strongly considering purchasing a tent hangar from shelter logic. They can be viewed at. http://www.shelterlogic.com/pk_30x28x16.html > This would be for my 701. Shelter logic is the best product I've found. At the grass strip where I will erect it, there is one there that measures 26 wide X 30 deep and 12 high. The guy keeps a Rans S12 in it. The 701 would not fit in this size building. I would have to go to the 30 wide. Unfortunately, at 30 wide the height goes up to 16. My concern is the wind. I'm afraid I'll show up one day and it will be gone. One bright note is that I would be backed up to a wooded area that would protect me from the prevailing westerly winds. I'm looking for any kind of input to help me make a decision. Recommendations? horror stories/warnings? Any thoughts at all. It's a one time expense that could last up to 10 years before it would need a new cover. The product is definitely worth the money. Anyone else own one?......Geoff > > -------- > Dual controls. Dynon 180. Icom 210 Garmin 296. Becker transponder. Sigtronics intercom. Electric flaperons. > > FWIW: I used to be part owner in a tent hangar and overall it went well. However the door can be a weak point. We had the door push in during high winds and it slightly damaged one of the ultralights inside. We then reinforced the center of the door so it could not bow inwards. Also, the fabric did not last 10 years. After I moved out, the owners put up metal siding to replace some of the fabric. There is no security to these units either from either human or animal pests. The 26 ft X 30 ft shelter could work for you. You just have to put the plane on car dollies and push it in sideways. This is what I do since the door on my metal shop is only 12 feet wide. DW N948DW ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:05 PM PST US From: "Gordon" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Tent hangars anyone? Looking for input. Geoff, I bought a 30X40 from them for my 701 and erected it at VT8 (Shelburne Vt.) It's survived some very strong winds and snow loads with no problems of any kind in almost 3 years. The only issue (minor) is that when it's closed up, the inside tends to turn into a terrarium during the summer with water constantly condensing on the inside and raining down on the plane. I even covered the ground with heavy black poly and then a layer or gravel in an afford to easy the problem. The solution is to leave the door open, which I do most of the time. Winter isn't a problem. I suspect the severity of the problem will vary with your particular climate. Bottom line is that it's a great hangar for a very reasonable price. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Heap" Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:29 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Tent hangars anyone? Looking for input. > > I am strongly considering purchasing a tent hangar from shelter logic. > They can be viewed at. http://www.shelterlogic.com/pk_30x28x16.html > This would be for my 701. Shelter logic is the best product I've found. At > the grass strip where I will erect it, there is one there that measures > 26?T wide X 30?T deep and 12?T high. The guy keeps a Rans S12 in it. > The 701 would not fit in this size building. I would have to go to the > 30?T wide. Unfortunately, at 30?T wide the height goes up to 16?T. My > concern is the wind. I'm afraid I'll show up one day and it will be gone. > One bright note is that I would be backed up to a wooded area that would > protect me from the prevailing westerly winds. I'm looking for any kind of > input to help me make a decision. Recommendations? horror > stories/warnings? Any thoughts at all. It's a one time expense that could > last up to 10 years before it would need a new cover. The product is > definitely worth the money. Anyone else own one?......Geoff > > -------- > Dual controls. Dynon 180. Icom 210 Garmin 296. Becker transponder. > Sigtronics intercom. Electric flaperons. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319614#319614 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:12 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Tent hangars anyone? Looking for input. From: ruruny@aol.com Hey Geoff, I bought a tent hangar last year that was already installed at spadaro air port for 5k in marginal shape. It was not used for a while, it looked more like a greenhouse inside. With some cleanup it has worked out very well. On March 12 of this year we had a Noreaster with sustained winds of 75-80 mph gusting through out the night. I had gotten a call that the door was breaking loose and had to spend the night out there saving my airplane. The wind was hitting the door direct on. The wind had pulled the 6 cement anchors out of the ground and were dangli ng from the bottom of the door by the ratchet straps. We tied the bottom of the door to a box truck, and tha t saved the structure. The hangar next to me was blown 250 away and it had a generator chained to the structure. This hangar was just sitting on some wood. If you want your hangar to surv ive, the sides the length of the structure will have to have a poured foundation. Also there are flaps on the bottom that should not be weighted or fastened down. These are key to its high wind rating. On my door I used cardboard tubes(6) and poured cement into them with anchors on top. When I installed the tubes I had dug holes, put the tubes in and backfilled around them. This was a big mistake. When the door blew the smooth tubes around the disturbe d dirt pulled right out. I redid each one by digging bell shaped holes 3 feet down and poured in 4 80 lb bags each. We've had some bad storms since and they haven't budged. Here are some photos( the next morning) of what could happen if you don't use cement down the sides and solid cement with anchors to hold the door down. Loose the door, u loose the building. That night I tied the airplane to anything I could, the nose to my engine hoist, the wing to the trailer. Also the RV was not tied down in the tent, it just pivoted into the wind and stayed put.The tent and structure can be seen in the background. The wind was still howling in the morning so we did what we could to secur e it. Brian http://www.701builder.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith701801-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith701801-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith701801-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith701801-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.