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1. 05:50 AM - Re: Phase one testing (dashwood)
2. 05:50 AM - Re: Phase one testing (dashwood)
3. 05:52 AM - Re: Phase one testing (Tommy Walker)
4. 10:39 AM - Re: Re: Phase one testing (James Sagerser)
5. 10:59 AM - Re: Re: Phase one testing (Craig Payne)
6. 01:58 PM - Re: Re: Phase one testing (Gary Gower)
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| Subject: | Re: Phase one testing |
i find the flaps hard to pull on . so the circuits are done at full throttle.1/2
way through the Base and to slow the plane down i drop power to 3200rpm nose
up to almost stall then stick forward/dropping nose while pulling flaps (at
the same time) takes all the pressure off the flaps and is easy to engage.. not
as erratic as it sounds. i do inform any passengers what is about to happen.
you are instantly slowed to glide, make turn to final and steer for numbers.
i had rudder problems when i first purchased this plane. found iin some conditions
the rudder would search from stop to stop. not a fun ride. found the builder
had omitted the bottom rib in the forward part of the rudder. would have to
slow plane down and pull hard on the left rudder cable by hand to stop the cycling.
installed proper rib section and everything worked as it should. i also loosened
the rudder cables a slight bit and installed springs between the rudders peddles
and the cables. this made ground maneuvers easier on me and the rudder and
made the rudder less stiff in flight.
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Ross Aalexander: CH701 driver 912ul 490tt
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333153#333153
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| Subject: | Re: Phase one testing |
i find the flaps hard to pull on . so the circuits are done at full throttle.1/2
way through the Base and to slow the plane down i drop power to 3200rpm nose
up to almost stall then stick forward/dropping nose while pulling flaps (at
the same time) takes all the pressure off the flaps and is easy to engage.. not
as erratic as it sounds. i do inform any passengers what is about to happen.
you are instantly slowed to glide, make turn to final and steer for numbers.
i had rudder problems when i first purchased this plane. found iin some conditions
the rudder would search from stop to stop. not a fun ride. found the builder
had omitted the bottom rib in the forward part of the rudder. would have to
slow plane down and pull hard on the left rudder cable by hand to stop the cycling.
installed proper rib section and everything worked as it should. i also loosened
the rudder cables a slight bit and installed springs between the rudders peddles
and the cables. this made ground maneuvers easier on me and the rudder and
made the rudder less stiff in flight.
--------
Ross Aalexander: CH701 driver 912ul 490tt
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333151#333151
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| Subject: | Re: Phase one testing |
If you go to the www.ch701.com site and look for Larry Martin's page you can
see where he put built return springs into his rudder pedals.
Tommy
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| Subject: | Re: Phase one testing |
I installed an after market flap actuator called the Kube Kontrol. It's a
little pricey but one my favorite things on my 701. Very easy to install
and can actuate flaps with light finger pressure. I've used it for almost
200 hours. Here a picture of it installed:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22918119@N08/
And here's a link to the brochure:
file:///Users/mac/Downloads/Kube%20Kontrol%20for%20the%20STOL%20CH%20701.webarchive
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:48 AM, dashwood <dashwoodlock@hotmail.com> wrote:
> dashwoodlock@hotmail.com>
>
> i find the flaps hard to pull on . so the circuits are done at full
> throttle.1/2 way through the Base and to slow the plane down i drop power to
> 3200rpm nose up to almost stall then stick forward/dropping nose while
> pulling flaps (at the same time) takes all the pressure off the flaps and is
> easy to engage.. not as erratic as it sounds. i do inform any passengers
> what is about to happen. you are instantly slowed to glide, make turn to
> final and steer for numbers.
> i had rudder problems when i first purchased this plane. found iin some
> conditions the rudder would search from stop to stop. not a fun ride. found
> the builder had omitted the bottom rib in the forward part of the rudder.
> would have to slow plane down and pull hard on the left rudder cable by
> hand to stop the cycling.
> installed proper rib section and everything worked as it should. i also
> loosened the rudder cables a slight bit and installed springs between the
> rudders peddles and the cables. this made ground maneuvers easier on me and
> the rudder and made the rudder less stiff in flight.
>
> --------
> Ross Aalexander: CH701 driver 912ul 490tt
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333151#333151
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Phase one testing |
Michael Heinz (Chris's son and a reseller of the Kube Control) told me that
the degree of difficulty on the stock flap actuator was a good thing. If it
was hard to put the flaps in you were probably deploying them at too high a
speed. He also advised not messing with deploying the flaps during your
first 50 hours of flying a 701. On the other hand James's plane is hardly
stock ;-)
Here is a link to the specs on the Kube Control:
http://www.qualitysportplanes.com/components-and-options.html
-- Craig
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[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Sagerser
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Re: Phase one testing
I installed an after market flap actuator called the Kube Kontrol. It's a
little pricey but one my favorite things on my 701. Very easy to install
and can actuate flaps with light finger pressure. I've used it for almost
200 hours. Here a picture of it installed:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22918119@N08/
And here's a link to the brochure:
file:///Users/mac/Downloads/Kube%20Kontrol%20for%20the%20STOL%20CH%20701.web
archive
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:48 AM, dashwood <dashwoodlock@hotmail.com> wrote:
<dashwoodlock@hotmail.com>
i find the flaps hard to pull on . so the circuits are done at full
throttle.1/2 way through the Base and to slow the plane down i drop power to
3200rpm nose up to almost stall then stick forward/dropping nose while
pulling flaps (at the same time) takes all the pressure off the flaps and is
easy to engage.. not as erratic as it sounds. i do inform any passengers
what is about to happen. you are instantly slowed to glide, make turn to
final and steer for numbers.
i had rudder problems when i first purchased this plane. found iin some
conditions the rudder would search from stop to stop. not a fun ride. found
the builder had omitted the bottom rib in the forward part of the rudder.
would have to slow plane down and pull hard on the left rudder cable by
hand to stop the cycling.
installed proper rib section and everything worked as it should. i also
loosened the rudder cables a slight bit and installed springs between the
rudders peddles and the cables. this made ground maneuvers easier on me and
the rudder and made the rudder less stiff in flight.
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| Subject: | Re: Phase one testing |
Hello Ron,
In my humble opinion.
I think there is no problem with the flaps of your 701... - I am shure th
at you are flying too fast -for the flaps to be set, just let the speed t
o bleed to 60 (or 55 in low turbulent wind).
I use the flaps because of my strip at 5,000 ft ASL , -but in a "normal"
landings there is no need to aply the flaps, - well probably using flaps
might save tires and brakes :-)
Hope this helps
Gary Gower701 912S-Chapala, Mexico.-
--- On Tue, 3/8/11, dashwood <dashwoodlock@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: dashwood <dashwoodlock@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Phase one testing
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i find the flaps hard to pull on . so- the circuits are done at full thro
ttle.1/2 way through the Base and to slow the plane down i drop power to 32
00rpm nose up to almost stall then stick forward/dropping nose while pullin
g flaps (at the same time) takes all the pressure off the flaps and is easy
to engage.. not as erratic as it sounds. i do inform any passengers what i
s about to happen. you are instantly slowed to glide, make turn to final an
d steer for numbers.
i had rudder problems when i first purchased this plane. found iin some con
ditions the rudder would search from stop to stop. not a fun ride. found th
e builder had omitted the bottom rib in the forward part of the rudder. wou
ld have to slow plane down and pull hard on the left- rudder cable by han
d to stop the cycling.-
installed proper rib section and everything worked as it should. i also loo
sened the rudder cables a slight bit and installed springs between the rudd
ers peddles and the cables. this made ground maneuvers easier on me and the
rudder and made the rudder less stiff in flight.
--------
Ross Aalexander: CH701 driver 912ul 490tt
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333151#333151
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