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1. 06:42 AM - Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting (Keith Ashcraft)
2. 07:01 AM - Re: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting (Robert N. Eli)
3. 07:06 AM - Re: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting (Tommy Walker)
4. 08:10 AM - Re: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting (Keith Ashcraft)
5. 08:30 AM - Re: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting (n801bh@netzero.com)
6. 08:31 AM - Re: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting (wildhorsesracing)
7. 09:01 AM - Re: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting (Tommy Walker)
8. 12:11 PM - Chat Room (George Race)
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| Subject: | Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting |
All, I am at the point of getting ready to rivet the cabin together, but....
what have others been doing about primering/painting the Cabin Frame?
When I first got mine I shot a coat of rattle-can paint on it to keep the rust
down as I get frost in my "shop" through the Winter, and of course as I was
fitting the "Front Top Skin" off and on it chipped off the paint.
Now at this point, I can still take the Cabin Frame apart, what have others been
doing. I don't know if I can justify spending $250+ dollars on White Epoxy
Primer. Have others finished building, and then painted??
Thanks,
Keith
CH701 - scratch (mostly except for 4130 welded parts)
N 38.9940
W 105.1305
Alt. 9,100'
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting |
Keith,
I have the same question. I have an older full kit, so the 4130 parts
are all pre-welded, but in a "raw" metal state. Luckily, I have a
heated/air-conditioned shop, and the raw metal has not developed rust. I
will add to your inquiry with regard to the painting of the exterior,
with a question about how are others protecting the interior of the
welded tubing parts after the painting is done?
Robert
CH701 - 2003 full kit.
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Ashcraft
To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:20 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting
All, I am at the point of getting ready to rivet the cabin together,
but.... what have others been doing about primering/painting the Cabin
Frame?
When I first got mine I shot a coat of rattle-can paint on it to keep
the rust down as I get frost in my "shop" through the Winter, and of
course as I was fitting the "Front Top Skin" off and on it chipped off
the paint.
Now at this point, I can still take the Cabin Frame apart, what have
others been doing. I don't know if I can justify spending $250+ dollars
on White Epoxy Primer. Have others finished building, and then painted??
Thanks,
Keith
CH701 - scratch (mostly except for 4130 welded parts)
N 38.9940
W 105.1305
Alt. 9,100'
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting |
Hi Keith,
Hope you are doing well and getting to work on your 701 more. Our airport
was closed by the State of Alabama because it no longer met minimum runway
requirements, so we are moving to another (more expensive) airport. Rent is
going from $30 a month to $100 monthly.
I'm busy working on the Kitfox SS and hope to be finished sometime this
year. We bought a used O200 for it and are in the process of overhauling it
now.
Headed to SNF next week to scout out some parts at the vendor and exchange
hangars.
When we painted our 4130 steel parts on both 701s, we scuffed them with
those unmentionable scotch pads, then shot them with several coats of rattle
can primer. After they cured for a month or so, I began to spray rattle can
paint on them, waiting several days between coats. It seemed to work ok,
but if I had it to do again I might have used an expoxy primer because it
sticks so much better.
Take care and if you back in Bama, stop by, I will show you a Kitfox being
built.
Tommy Walker in Alabama
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder@yahoo.com>wrote:
> All, I am at the point of getting ready to rivet the cabin together,
> but.... what have others been doing about primering/painting the Cabin
> Frame?
>
> When I first got mine I shot a coat of rattle-can paint on it to keep the
> rust down as I get frost in my "shop" through the Winter, and of course as I
> was fitting the "Front Top Skin" off and on it chipped off the paint.
>
> Now at this point, I can still take the Cabin Frame apart, what have others
> been doing. I don't know if I can justify spending $250+ dollars on White
> Epoxy Primer. Have others finished building, and then painted??
>
> Thanks,
> Keith
> CH701 - scratch (mostly except for 4130 welded parts)
> N 38.9940
> W 105.1305
> Alt. 9,100'
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting |
Hi Tommy,
Good to hear from you. Too bad about the airport closing. That seemed like a
nice little out-of-the-way airport. Was it State owned or private? It seems like
if it was Private then it should still be open, but every state is different. I
have been trying to get an airport here in Teller County, since there isn't even
1 private strip here in the county. It seems like there are more Pros than Cons
for this area, but the County is not easy to work with.
Pros -- close to ski resorts that do not have an airport close to them except
Denver or Colorado Springs. Gambling in Cripple Creek, Staging areas for Forest
Fires, etc....
Anyway, I will do the cleaning of the 4130 and then shoot the primer and rattle
can paint for now.
Thanks,
Keith
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From: Tommy Walker <twalker@cableone.net>
Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 8:02:56 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting
Hi Keith,
Hope you are doing well and getting to work on your 701 more. Our airport was
closed by the State of Alabama because it no longer met minimum runway
requirements, so we are moving to another (more expensive) airport. Rent is
going from $30 a month to $100 monthly.
I'm busy working on the Kitfox SS and hope to be finished sometime this year.
We bought a used O200 for it and are in the process of overhauling it now.
Headed to SNF next week to scout out some parts at the vendor and exchange
hangars.
When we painted our 4130 steel parts on both 701s, we scuffed them with those
unmentionable scotch pads, then shot them with several coats of rattle can
primer. After they cured for a month or so, I began to spray rattle can paint
on them, waiting several days between coats. It seemed to work ok, but if I had
it to do again I might have used an expoxy primer because it sticks so much
better.
Take care and if you back in Bama, stop by, I will show you a Kitfox being
built.
Tommy Walker in Alabama
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder@yahoo.com> wrote:
All, I am at the point of getting ready to rivet the cabin together, but....
what have others been doing about primering/painting the Cabin Frame?
>
>When I first got mine I shot a coat of rattle-can paint on it to keep the rust
>down as I get frost in my "shop" through the Winter, and of course as I was
>fitting the "Front Top Skin" off and on it chipped off the paint.
>
>Now at this point, I can still take the Cabin Frame apart, what have others been
>doing. I don't know if I can justify spending $250+ dollars on White Epoxy
>Primer. Have others finished building, and then painted??
>
>Thanks,
>Keith
>CH701 - scratch (mostly except for 4130 welded parts)
>N 38.9940
>W 105.1305
>Alt. 9,100'
> ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List
>tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting |
I took all my steel parts to the local powder coating shop. They came ou
t great and the whole bill was under 100 dollars.
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder@yahoo.com>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting
All, I am at the point of getting ready to rivet the cabin together, but
.... what have others been doing about primering/painting the Cabin Fram
e?
When I first got mine I shot a coat of rattle-can paint on it to keep th
e rust down as I get frost in my "shop" through the Winter, and of cours
e as I was fitting the "Front Top Skin" off and on it chipped off the pa
int.
Now at this point, I can still take the Cabin Frame apart, what have oth
ers been doing. I don't know if I can justify spending $250+ dollars on
White Epoxy Primer. Have others finished building, and then painted??
Thanks,
Keith
CH701 - scratch (mostly except for 4130 welded parts)
N 38.9940
W 105.1305
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting |
We frequently have to paint rollbars in racecars and use a foam brush with
enamel paint. When it is done you can scuff off the brushmarks with some 1000+
grit sandpaper and wet sanding. It will have a dull shine to it but look
wonderful and be very hardy to scuff marks and wear.
PS. we always paint interiors in gray - darker is usually hot in the summer and
lighter will show handprints, etc.
-jim pantas
http://www.wildhorsesracing.com
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From: Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 9:20:58 AM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting
All, I am at the point of getting ready to rivet the cabin together, but....
what have others been doing about primering/painting the Cabin Frame?
When I first got mine I shot a coat of rattle-can paint on it to keep the rust
down as I get frost in my "shop" through the Winter, and of course as I was
fitting the "Front Top Skin" off and on it chipped off the paint.
Now at this point, I can still take the Cabin Frame apart, what have others been
doing. I don't know if I can justify spending $250+ dollars on White Epoxy
Primer. Have others finished building, and then painted??
Thanks,
Keith
CH701 - scratch (mostly except for 4130 welded parts)
N 38.9940
W 105.1305
Alt. 9,100'
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting |
Ben, you should see the kitfox fuse. it is all power coated!
Tommy
and i forgot, do not archive
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:06 AM, n801bh@netzero.com <n801bh@netzero.com>wrote:
> I took all my steel parts to the local powder coating shop. They came out
> great and the whole bill was under 100 dollars.
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Ben Haas
> N801BH
> www.haaspowerair.com
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder@yahoo.com>
> To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith701801-List: Cabin Frame 7F18-1SP Painting
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:20:58 -0700 (PDT)
>
> All, I am at the point of getting ready to rivet the cabin together,
> but.... what have others been doing about primering/painting the Cabin
> Frame?
>
> When I first got mine I shot a coat of rattle-can paint on it to keep the
> rust down as I get frost in my "shop" through the Winter, and of course as I
> was fitting the "Front Top Skin" off and on it chipped off the paint.
>
> Now at this point, I can still take the Cabin Frame apart, what have others
> been doing. I don't know if I can justify spending $250+ dollars on White
> Epoxy Primer. Have others finished building, and then painted??
>
> Thanks,
> Keith
> CH701 - scratch (mostly except for 4130 welded parts)
> N 38.9940
> W 105.1305
> Alt. 9,100'
>
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