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1. 01:09 PM - Windshield rubber channel (Geoff Heap)
2. 01:39 PM - Re: Windshield rubber channel (n801bh@netzero.com)
3. 01:51 PM - Re: Windshield rubber channel (Ralph Sharp)
4. 02:35 PM - Re: Windshield rubber channel (Tommy Walker)
5. 02:35 PM - Re: Windshield rubber channel (BobKat)
6. 03:06 PM - Re: Windshield rubber channel (MacDonald Doug)
7. 04:09 PM - Re: Re: Carlisle Tires. (Gary Gower)
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| Subject: | Windshield rubber channel |
Guys. Please tell me what rubber channel you are using at the bottom edge of your
windshields. The U channel sold by ASSCO is all 1/16 slotted. Our 701 acrylic
windshields are 1/8 thick. They also an Open center channel 05-01500 with a
1/8 slot but it is a Y shaped channel and too long. They have other High quality
rubber channel but again, it's slotted 1/16. So throw me a bone hereGeoff
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield rubber channel |
Look here..http://www.mcmaster.com/#rubber-trim/=buiwhs
Style 5,6 or 7 will all work, Pick the one you like best. On my 801 I no
t only used the rubber channel trim I fabricated an aluminum strip piece
that hid that joint too.
You can see it in this pic... Click on it to blow it up. http://www.zeni
th.aero/photo/ben-haas-stol-ch-801
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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From: "Geoff Heap" <stol10@comcast.net>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Windshield rubber channel
t>
Guys. Please tell me what rubber channel you are using at the bottom edg
e of your windshields. The =9CU=9D channel sold by ASSCO is
all 1/16=9D slotted. Our 701 acrylic windshields are 1/8=9D
thick. They also an =9COpen center channel=9D 05-01500 with
a 1/8=9D slot but it is a =9CY=9D shaped channel and t
oo long. They have other =9CHigh quality rubber channel=9D b
ut again, it's slotted 1/16=9D. So throw me a bone here
Geoff
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onics intercom. Electric flaperons.
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield rubber channel |
I got mine from Aircraft Spruce. P/N 05-01500. Worked great in sealing
bottom of windshield.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Heap" <stol10@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:06 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Windshield rubber channel
Guys. Please tell me what rubber channel you are using at the bottom edge of
your windshields. The ?oU? channel sold by ASSCO is all 1/16? slotted.
Our 701 acrylic windshields are 1/8? thick. They also an ?oOpen center
channel? 05-01500 with a 1/8? slot but it is a ?oY? shaped channel
and too long. They have other ?oHigh quality rubber channel? but again,
it's slotted 1/16?. So throw me a bone here??Geoff
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Dual controls. Dynon 180. Icom 210 Garmin 296. Becker transponder.
Sigtronics intercom. Electric flaperons.
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield rubber channel |
I used body stripe tape on both the 701s I built. Worked fine.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Geoff Heap <stol10@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Guys. Please tell me what rubber channel you are using at the bottom edge
> of your windshields. The =93U=94 channel sold by ASSCO is all 1/16=94 slo
tted. Our
> 701 acrylic windshields are 1/8=94 thick. They also an =93Open center cha
nnel=94
> 05-01500 with a 1/8=94 slot but it is a =93Y=94 shaped channel and too lo
ng. They
> have other =93High quality rubber channel=94 but again, it's slotted 1/16
=94. So
> throw me a bone here=85=85Geoff
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> Sigtronics intercom. Electric flaperons.
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336729#336729
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield rubber channel |
I used some of that trim tape as suggested by Zenith in their plans. I flew
the plane for three years then am now painting it as we speak/type. The
tape looked OK initially but was starting to come off, so I took the bull by
the horns and fiberglassed mine in like the RV builders do. It looks good,
even with my less than perfect construction talents, and will seal really
well and forever. Also, I suspect I will probably gain at least 0.0028057
knots in cruise by doing it. It took me an entire week to do it and sanding
down the fiberglass till it is almost flush with the window and knife edge
thickness is as tedious as brain surgery! Would I do it again?
Probably, but only if I had at least a week of time to kill and I didn't
have a case of "want to get it done and flying as soon as possible" like I
had the first time around.
Just spent 10 hours non stop yesterday cleaning and etching the plane, not
counting a day masking and sealing off the openings and doors the day before
and sprayed primer on it today. Just got done. So far looks good! Using
the Steward waterborn 2 part poyurethane system.
One question regarding rubber strips. Does anyone put them along the
inboard top wing fairings? Someone told me I should do that so the
vibration of the fairings against the plexiglass roof won't wear through.
I don't know if this is right or not, though. In three years of flying
there isn't even a scratch on the plexiglass, except where I screwed up by
dropping things on it, but thats another "Bob Goofed UP" story!.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Sharp
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Windshield rubber channel
I got mine from Aircraft Spruce. P/N 05-01500. Worked great in sealing
bottom of windshield.
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Heap" <stol10@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:06 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Windshield rubber channel
Guys. Please tell me what rubber channel you are using at the bottom edge of
your windshields. The ?oU? channel sold by ASSCO is all 1/16? slotted.
Our 701 acrylic windshields are 1/8? thick. They also an ?oOpen center
channel? 05-01500 with a 1/8? slot but it is a ?oY? shaped channel
and too long. They have other ?oHigh quality rubber channel? but again,
it's slotted 1/16?. So throw me a bone here??Geoff
--------
Dual controls. Dynon 180. Icom 210 Garmin 296. Becker transponder.
Sigtronics intercom. Electric flaperons.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336729#336729
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| Subject: | Re: Windshield rubber channel |
Bob, I initially cut rubber strips to go on my wingroot farings but never installed
them. The 1/8 inch slot in the rubber was too big and they ended up with
some primer overspray on them during painting. Didn't seem worth it once I was
done.
I too have not noticed any indication of contact between the faring and the window
so I don't plan on installing them. I think the rubber would do more damage
to the window than the gap I currently have.
Doug MacDonald
CH-701 C-GBQX
18.8 and counting
NW Ontario, Canada
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--- On Tue, 4/12/11, BobKat <bobkat@btinet.net> wrote:
> From: BobKat <bobkat@btinet.net>
> Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Windshield rubber channel
> To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
> Received: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 4:32 PM
> --> Zenith701801-List message
> posted by: "BobKat" <bobkat@btinet.net>
>
> I used some of that trim tape as suggested by Zenith in
> their plans. I flew the plane for three years then am
> now painting it as we speak/type.The tape
> looked OK initially but was starting to come off, so I took
> the bull by the horns and fiberglassed mine in like the RV
> builders do. It looks good, even with my less than
> perfect construction talents, and will seal really
> well and forever.Also, I suspect I will
> probably gain at least 0.0028057 knots in cruise by doing
> it. It took me an entire week to do it and sanding
> down the fiberglass till it is almost flush with the window
> and knife edge thickness is as tedious as brain
> surgery! Would I do it again? Probably, but
> only if I had at least a week of time to kill and I didn't
> have a case of "want to get it done and flying as soon as
> possible" like I had the first time around.
> Just spent 10 hours non stop yesterday cleaning and etching
> the plane, not counting a day masking and sealing off the
> openings and doors the day before and sprayed primer on it
> today. Just got done. So far looks good!
> Using the Steward waterborn 2 part poyurethane system.
>
> One question regarding rubber strips. Does anyone put
> them along the inboard top wing fairings? Someone told
> me I should do that so the vibration of the fairings against
> the plexiglass roof won't wear through. I don't know if this
> is right or not, though. In three years of flying
> there isn't even a scratch on the plexiglass, except where I
> screwed up by dropping things on it, but thats another
> "Bob Goofed UP" story!.
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| Subject: | Re: Carlisle Tires. |
Here I only can get (imported) =C2-the Carlisle tires, =C2-a good frien
d sends them from San Diego/Tijuana... =C2-With the original tires, lots
of hours ago I had problems with flats... =C2-I use them tubless (o ring)
. =C2-I found the solution getting some =C2- green geek (the non pressu
rized one) inside the tires, there are very much used in off road motorcycl
es to prevent flats around here... =C2-Problem gone =C2-(Very Happy Pil
ot :-) =C2-=C2-
I just installed a new (main) set of tires about 40 hours ago, =C2-with t
he green thing inside since new.
Yes they ended with "some" unbalance =C2- but glad is a STOL aircraft :-)
=C2-so at that landing and take off speeds and over bumpy grass, I hardl
y note it... =C2- Also what ever passenger complains, will not get anothe
r free flight :-) =C2-:-)
If you want my point of view: =C2-Even if I had the chance to install mor
e expensive tires, I rather spend the money in flying gasoline rather than
taxing tires....=C2-=C2-The original tires lasted a little past 300 hrs
of mostly "touch and Goes", =C2-because lots of friends enjoy flying in
our 701...
Gary Gower701 =C2-912S =C2-Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
--- On Thu, 4/7/11, ricklach <rick@ravenaviation.us> wrote:
From: ricklach <rick@ravenaviation.us>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Carlisle Tires
There are two brand names that I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ve found, the most
popular is the Carlisle and the second is Leslie. They are the same tire th
at=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s being marketing under two names. I talked to Ma
tco about their tire and it was the Carlisle brand at the time we spoke. As
Paul said it=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s the Turf Glide model. I looked aroun
d and found them from $50 to $65 in the aircraft industry, but I got mine f
rom my local Big Brand Tire store for $45 each and no shipping. They are ju
st golf cart trailer tires, nothing special. As for the quality Phil, you
=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2re quite right, it=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s POOR. N
ot only are the construction variables all over the place so is the weight.
My nose wheel and tire set-up took almost a half pound of lead to balance.
My last grip is they are really THIN. I can out to fly last Monday and a m
ain was flat. Upon close inspection I found a household thumb-tack in the t
ire. It had pierced the tire and the tube. Repair was straight forward but,
I do a lot of dirt field landings with all so!
rt of rocks, green stuff, branches and who knows what else laying around t
hat could puncher such a thin tire. Getting stuck in the bush with a simple
flat is not a fun repair. OK enough gripping. I like the look and the gene
ral function of the tire, but is there a better, more dependable back count
ry tire out there? What else have your guys tried?
Rick
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N35 26.700,=C2- W118 16.743
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