Zenith701801-List Digest Archive

Thu 04/28/11


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:24 PM - Bad weather? (Keith Ashcraft)
     2. 02:33 PM - Tail feather open spaces (ronlee)
     3. 02:35 PM - Re: Bad weather? (Tommy Walker)
     4. 03:07 PM - Re: Tail feather open spaces (Tommy Walker)
     5. 03:08 PM - Re: Bad weather? (Keith Ashcraft)
     6. 03:26 PM - Re: Tail feather open spaces (BobKat)
     7. 03:36 PM - Re: Tail feather open spaces (BobKat)
     8. 03:49 PM - Re: Tail feather open spaces (Tommy Walker)
     9. 05:46 PM - Re:Tail feather open spaces (ruruny@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:24:13 PM PST US
    From: Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Bad weather?
    Tommy, How are you fairing with all this BAD weather? Hope things are OK, Keith


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    Time: 02:33:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Tail feather open spaces
    From: "ronlee" <rlee468@comcast.net>
    Has anyone enclosed the open spaces around the tail feathers to streamline and make the area look finished? -------- Ron Lee Tucson, Arizona Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338361#338361


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    Time: 02:35:27 PM PST US
    From: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
    Subject: Bad weather?
    Hi Keith, We escaped the worst of the tornadoes, but they were all around us. 8 in our county were killed and millions in damage. The poor folks in Tuscaloosa and Hueytown were just devastated. Sad. Thanks so much for checking. Tommy _____ From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith Ashcraft Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:21 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Bad weather? Tommy, How are you fairing with all this BAD weather? Hope things are OK, Keith


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    Time: 03:07:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tail feather open spaces
    From: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
    Check with Joe Spencer in Mississippi. He put fairings on his horizontal stabilizer. Joe is on this list. -------- Tommy Walker N8701 - Anniston, AL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338363#338363


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    Time: 03:08:19 PM PST US
    From: Keith Ashcraft <ch701builder@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Bad weather?
    Sorry Group!!!! I was meaning to ask Tommy directly, but..... now I guess we know "...the rest of the story!" Good to hear you are still "standing" Take care and be safe!! Keith ************************************************************** ________________________________ From: Tommy Walker <twalker@cableone.net> Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 3:29:19 PM Subject: RE: Zenith701801-List: Bad weather? Hi Keith, We escaped the worst of the tornadoes, but they were all around us. 8 in our county were killed and millions in damage. The poor folks in Tuscaloosa and Hueytown were just devastated. Sad. Thanks so much for checking. Tommy ________________________________ From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith Ashcraft Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:21 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Bad weather? Tommy, How are you fairing with all this BAD weather? Hope things are OK, Keith href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 03:26:24 PM PST US
    From: "BobKat" <bobkat@btinet.net>
    Subject: Re: Tail feather open spaces
    I' in the process of painting my plane right now. Was looking at it several times and wondered about it but I'm not sure how one would go about doing it so it made any difference. I put some fairings on the round struts and worked a long time smoothing things out, but though it looks better I'm not sure how much speed I will get. I'm painting the slats but will put on JG's VG's land try them out instead. I'd be glad to trade a slight amount of STOL capabilities for a bit more speed. If it doesn't work out I'll bolt em back on. But the tail feathers? Has anyone ever used gap seals of some kind? -----Original Message----- From: ronlee Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:30 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Tail feather open spaces Has anyone enclosed the open spaces around the tail feathers to streamline and make the area look finished? -------- Ron Lee Tucson, Arizona Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338361#338361


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    Time: 03:36:41 PM PST US
    From: "BobKat" <bobkat@btinet.net>
    Subject: Re: Tail feather open spaces
    One other question concerning stall and streamlining. When I took off the slats it leaves the hangars on the wings. If I decide to permanently leave them off I guess I'd just cut them off flush,. Looking at a buddy's Horton STOL 185 the other day, I was wondering if anyone used one of the slat hangers to mount the front of a stall strip. Could be easily done, but I have to ask the experts on here if they think it would do any good. Stall strips are supposed to delay progression of the stall from the wing butt to the tip thus dropping the stall speed, but if you have VG's on whech do basically the same thing I think, would it make any difference? -----Original Message----- From: ronlee Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:30 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Tail feather open spaces Has anyone enclosed the open spaces around the tail feathers to streamline and make the area look finished? -------- Ron Lee Tucson, Arizona Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338361#338361


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    Time: 03:49:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tail feather open spaces
    From: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
    bobkat, We couldn't stall our 701s. just keep the ball (or string) centered and it just mushes down. I don't think you could slow the 701 anymore than it is. Our first 701 had slats, the second one had VGs. Other than the weight savings, we couldn't tell any difference. First 701 weighed 610 lbs. Second one, 590.... All of that was not in the slats, but paint, etc. Have fun! bobkat wrote: > One other question concerning stall and streamlining. When I took off the > slats it leaves the hangars on the wings. If I decide to permanently leave > them off I guess I'd just cut them off flush,. Looking at a buddy's Horton > STOL 185 the other day, I was wondering if anyone used one of the slat > hangers to mount the front of a stall strip. Could be easily done, but I > have to ask the experts on here if they think it would do any good. > Stall strips are supposed to delay progression of the stall from the wing > butt to the tip thus dropping the stall speed, but if you have VG's on whech > do basically the same thing I think, would it make any difference? > > -- -------- Tommy Walker N8701 - Anniston, AL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338381#338381


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    Time: 05:46:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re:Tail feather open spaces
    From: ruruny@aol.com
    Ron, The only streamlining that I did in that area was between the bolts that hold the horizontal stabilizer on. I used .016 sliver of aluminimum there. I will send a pic from home tommorow. As its not on my website. Just covers the space between the stabilizer and the fuselage. Couldn't find much more to do without intefering with movement of the elev ator and rudder. Brian www.701builder.com Has anyone enclosed the open spaces around the tail feathers to streamline and make the area look finished? -------- Ron Lee




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