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Fri 04/29/11


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     1. 10:00 AM - Re: Re: Tail feather open spaces (BobKat)
     2. 11:14 PM - Re: Tail feather open spaces (dashwood)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:00:25 AM PST US
    From: "BobKat" <bobkat@btinet.net>
    Subject: Re: Tail feather open spaces
    You are right, Tommy! I've found holding the stick back and keeping the ball centered with the throttle retarded, and the plane does nothing. It just sits there and after a while when the airspeed indicator is too low to read, then the vertical speed starts to gently rise, increases and ultimately reaches a VS of about 700 - 1000 fpm if you hold it that long. The rapid rate of descent sneaks up on you which I think accounts for landing problems. Flare too high and too slow and it'll drop, though the wings stay level and the pilot doesn't realize it till BAM! Been there done that, before I figured it out. I don't know if it could be made to spin or not!?! Maybe if you pulled the nose up violently and cross controlled giving it a shot of throttle at the same time it might. But you are right! Probably couldn't make it fly slower or stall more benignly. -----Original Message----- From: Tommy Walker Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:45 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Tail feather open spaces <twalker@cableone.net> bobkat, We couldn't stall our 701s. just keep the ball (or string) centered and it just mushes down. I don't think you could slow the 701 anymore than it is. Our first 701 had slats, the second one had VGs. Other than the weight savings, we couldn't tell any difference. First 701 weighed 610 lbs. Second one, 590.... All of that was not in the slats, but paint, etc. Have fun! bobkat wrote: > One other question concerning stall and streamlining. When I took off the > slats it leaves the hangars on the wings. If I decide to permanently > leave > them off I guess I'd just cut them off flush,. Looking at a buddy's > Horton > STOL 185 the other day, I was wondering if anyone used one of the slat > hangers to mount the front of a stall strip. Could be easily done, but I > have to ask the experts on here if they think it would do any good. > Stall strips are supposed to delay progression of the stall from the wing > butt to the tip thus dropping the stall speed, but if you have VG's on > whech > do basically the same thing I think, would it make any difference? > > -- -------- Tommy Walker N8701 - Anniston, AL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338381#338381


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    Time: 11:14:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tail feather open spaces
    From: "dashwood" <dashwoodlock@hotmail.com>
    be careful when pushing the stall . I was testing the stall at altitude the other day. was cycling a little throttle and trying to get as steep an angle of attack as i could. one last throttle burst and one last pull on the stick turned it a hammerhead stall and she flipped over backwards. not something i would recommend. reminded me i must clean the carpets more often. -------- Ross Aalexander: CH701 driver 912ul 490tt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338505#338505




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