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1. 06:39 AM - Windshield channel (Philip Smith)
2. 04:35 PM - nose-high flying (ejessee)
3. 05:08 PM - Re: nose-high flying (fritz)
4. 05:11 PM - Re: nose-high flying (fritz)
5. 09:01 PM - 180 turn back to airport (ronlee)
6. 09:40 PM - Re: 180 turn back to airport (John Bolding)
7. 10:01 PM - Re: nose-high flying (n801bh@netzero.com)
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| Subject: | Windshield channel |
Listers,
Been meaning to throw in what I did for my windshield. I was going through
our local auto windshield replacement business and asked what they had for
this type of application. They *gave me* two different sizes of rubber trim
they use to seat the side windows in vehicles like vans.
Took it home and discovered that it would work very well. The one channel
groove even had a pre applied sealant/glue so all I did was push the seal
over the bottom edges and then put it in place. I then ran a bead of rtv
around the bottom edge to seal that. I will note that the angle wasn't
exactly right on the extreme bottom edge back towards the door but a little
extra rtv took care of that.
Don't have any dedicated pics but could take some if you want.
Anybody interested drop me a note off line and I'll try to get the source
codes for you to take to your local shop.
Also there were some questions about trim for the wing roots. I went to my
friendly supply house J.C.. Whitney and ordered up a roll of automotive type
trim in black. This stuff has a metal "clamping liner" that holds very
well. I also put it on the top panel on my dash and around the trim
openings between the dorsal fairing and the front of the horizontal
stabilizer. All worked well. Btw I was a little dubious about using this
in an "outside" application so left a piece hanging in the Idaho sun and
winter for a year with no deterioration.
Still grinnin!!!
Phil
CH 701 flying
Buhl ID
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| Subject: | nose-high flying |
Hello all,
I was wondering how one might adjust a 701 to bring the nose down a little during
straight and level flight. When I bought the plane, the builder suggested
the rigging could be adjusted to bring it down some... I assume at the sacrifice
of speed. I believe he was going to bring both ailerons down some. Is that
the procedure?
I think my 701 is flying more nose high than it did before I changed my 3 blade
GSC prop for a 3 blade IVO. I dropped 3 lbs off the front and the Weight and
balance shows that the CG moved 6mm aft but is still well within spec.
As always, any help is greatly appreciated.
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Ernest Jessee
N4931M
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| Subject: | Re: nose-high flying |
----- Original Message -----
From: "ejessee" <eejessee@us.ibm.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 7:30 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: nose-high flying
>
> Hello all,
> I was wondering how one might adjust a 701 to bring the nose down a little
> during straight and level flight. When I bought the plane, the builder
> suggested the rigging could be adjusted to bring it down some... I assume
> at the sacrifice of speed. I believe he was going to bring both ailerons
> down some. Is that the procedure?
>
> I think my 701 is flying more nose high than it did before I changed my 3
> blade GSC prop for a 3 blade IVO. I dropped 3 lbs off the front and the
> Weight and balance shows that the CG moved 6mm aft but is still well
> within spec.
>
> As always, any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> --------
> Ernest Jessee
> N4931M
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340547#340547
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: nose-high flying |
Many years ago I had the same complaint: I adjusted my flaperons down a
little below the "0 degrees" which the plans called for--- this made a
tremendous improvement.
Fritz
----- Original Message -----
From: "ejessee" <eejessee@us.ibm.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 7:30 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: nose-high flying
>
> Hello all,
> I was wondering how one might adjust a 701 to bring the nose down a little
> during straight and level flight. When I bought the plane, the builder
> suggested the rigging could be adjusted to bring it down some... I assume
> at the sacrifice of speed. I believe he was going to bring both ailerons
> down some. Is that the procedure?
>
> I think my 701 is flying more nose high than it did before I changed my 3
> blade GSC prop for a 3 blade IVO. I dropped 3 lbs off the front and the
> Weight and balance shows that the CG moved 6mm aft but is still well
> within spec.
>
> As always, any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> --------
> Ernest Jessee
> N4931M
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340547#340547
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 180 turn back to airport |
Today after reading an article in the AOP magazine about the safe altitude needed
on take off to do a 180 land back on the runway in the event of an engine failure
I gave it a try. I could do it time and again in under 300 feet. I am wondering
if any one else has tested this and if so what their results were.
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Ron Lee
Tucson, Arizona
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| Subject: | Re: 180 turn back to airport |
Be REAL careful about expecting the rate of decent you get at idle to be the
same as what happens when the prop stops, I had an engine out in my RV3 that
I had flown for 500 hrs and done LOTS of idle power landings simulating
engine out from 2-3000 feet, got pretty good at hitting the first third of
the runway. When I had to do a dead stick 'cause the Lyc took a siesta I
had to land on the road next to the airport 'cause the rate of sink was so
much different from idle power.
LO&SLO (usta be High&Fast)
John
-----Original Message-----
From: ronlee
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 10:58 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: 180 turn back to airport
Today after reading an article in the AOP magazine about the safe altitude
needed on take off to do a 180 land back on the runway in the event of an
engine failure I gave it a try. I could do it time and again in under 300
feet. I am wondering if any one else has tested this and if so what their
results were.
--------
Ron Lee
Tucson, Arizona
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340565#340565
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| Subject: | Re: nose-high flying |
My 801 flies nose up too.... I think it the way Chris designed that 701/
750/801 series as I have heard this comment alot... It is almost like th
e angle of incidence of the wings is incorrect but there is no way to ch
ange that and maintain edge distance on the wing spar to fuselage pick u
p points. In cruise flight mine is what I consider nose up and should b
e slower as it feels like it is trying to climb. I add about 2-4 degrees
of flaps and the nose lowers and it looks better... but by doing that I
ose 3-5 mph. Seems counterproductive but that is the facts in my case. Y
MMV
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "ejessee" <eejessee@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: nose-high flying
Hello all,
I was wondering how one might adjust a 701 to bring the nose down a litt
le during straight and level flight. When I bought the plane, the build
er suggested the rigging could be adjusted to bring it down some... I as
sume at the sacrifice of speed. I believe he was going to bring both ai
lerons down some. Is that the procedure?
I think my 701 is flying more nose high than it did before I changed my
3 blade GSC prop for a 3 blade IVO. I dropped 3 lbs off the front and t
he Weight and balance shows that the CG moved 6mm aft but is still well
within spec.
As always, any help is greatly appreciated.
--------
Ernest Jessee
N4931M
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340547#340547
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