---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/21/11: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:39 AM - Windshield channel (Philip Smith) 2. 04:35 PM - nose-high flying (ejessee) 3. 05:08 PM - Re: nose-high flying (fritz) 4. 05:11 PM - Re: nose-high flying (fritz) 5. 09:01 PM - 180 turn back to airport (ronlee) 6. 09:40 PM - Re: 180 turn back to airport (John Bolding) 7. 10:01 PM - Re: nose-high flying (n801bh@netzero.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:18 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Windshield channel From: Philip Smith Listers, Been meaning to throw in what I did for my windshield. I was going through our local auto windshield replacement business and asked what they had for this type of application. They *gave me* two different sizes of rubber trim they use to seat the side windows in vehicles like vans. Took it home and discovered that it would work very well. The one channel groove even had a pre applied sealant/glue so all I did was push the seal over the bottom edges and then put it in place. I then ran a bead of rtv around the bottom edge to seal that. I will note that the angle wasn't exactly right on the extreme bottom edge back towards the door but a little extra rtv took care of that. Don't have any dedicated pics but could take some if you want. Anybody interested drop me a note off line and I'll try to get the source codes for you to take to your local shop. Also there were some questions about trim for the wing roots. I went to my friendly supply house J.C.. Whitney and ordered up a roll of automotive type trim in black. This stuff has a metal "clamping liner" that holds very well. I also put it on the top panel on my dash and around the trim openings between the dorsal fairing and the front of the horizontal stabilizer. All worked well. Btw I was a little dubious about using this in an "outside" application so left a piece hanging in the Idaho sun and winter for a year with no deterioration. Still grinnin!!! Phil CH 701 flying Buhl ID ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:15 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: nose-high flying From: "ejessee" Hello all, I was wondering how one might adjust a 701 to bring the nose down a little during straight and level flight. When I bought the plane, the builder suggested the rigging could be adjusted to bring it down some... I assume at the sacrifice of speed. I believe he was going to bring both ailerons down some. Is that the procedure? I think my 701 is flying more nose high than it did before I changed my 3 blade GSC prop for a 3 blade IVO. I dropped 3 lbs off the front and the Weight and balance shows that the CG moved 6mm aft but is still well within spec. As always, any help is greatly appreciated. -------- Ernest Jessee N4931M Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340547#340547 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:04 PM PST US From: "fritz" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: nose-high flying ----- Original Message ----- From: "ejessee" Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 7:30 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: nose-high flying > > Hello all, > I was wondering how one might adjust a 701 to bring the nose down a little > during straight and level flight. When I bought the plane, the builder > suggested the rigging could be adjusted to bring it down some... I assume > at the sacrifice of speed. I believe he was going to bring both ailerons > down some. Is that the procedure? > > I think my 701 is flying more nose high than it did before I changed my 3 > blade GSC prop for a 3 blade IVO. I dropped 3 lbs off the front and the > Weight and balance shows that the CG moved 6mm aft but is still well > within spec. > > As always, any help is greatly appreciated. > > -------- > Ernest Jessee > N4931M > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340547#340547 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:03 PM PST US From: "fritz" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: nose-high flying Many years ago I had the same complaint: I adjusted my flaperons down a little below the "0 degrees" which the plans called for--- this made a tremendous improvement. Fritz ----- Original Message ----- From: "ejessee" Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 7:30 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: nose-high flying > > Hello all, > I was wondering how one might adjust a 701 to bring the nose down a little > during straight and level flight. When I bought the plane, the builder > suggested the rigging could be adjusted to bring it down some... I assume > at the sacrifice of speed. I believe he was going to bring both ailerons > down some. Is that the procedure? > > I think my 701 is flying more nose high than it did before I changed my 3 > blade GSC prop for a 3 blade IVO. I dropped 3 lbs off the front and the > Weight and balance shows that the CG moved 6mm aft but is still well > within spec. > > As always, any help is greatly appreciated. > > -------- > Ernest Jessee > N4931M > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340547#340547 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:40 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: 180 turn back to airport From: "ronlee" Today after reading an article in the AOP magazine about the safe altitude needed on take off to do a 180 land back on the runway in the event of an engine failure I gave it a try. I could do it time and again in under 300 feet. I am wondering if any one else has tested this and if so what their results were. -------- Ron Lee Tucson, Arizona Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340565#340565 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:07 PM PST US From: "John Bolding" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: 180 turn back to airport Be REAL careful about expecting the rate of decent you get at idle to be the same as what happens when the prop stops, I had an engine out in my RV3 that I had flown for 500 hrs and done LOTS of idle power landings simulating engine out from 2-3000 feet, got pretty good at hitting the first third of the runway. When I had to do a dead stick 'cause the Lyc took a siesta I had to land on the road next to the airport 'cause the rate of sink was so much different from idle power. LO&SLO (usta be High&Fast) John -----Original Message----- From: ronlee Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 10:58 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: 180 turn back to airport Today after reading an article in the AOP magazine about the safe altitude needed on take off to do a 180 land back on the runway in the event of an engine failure I gave it a try. I could do it time and again in under 300 feet. I am wondering if any one else has tested this and if so what their results were. -------- Ron Lee Tucson, Arizona Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340565#340565 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:01:19 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: nose-high flying My 801 flies nose up too.... I think it the way Chris designed that 701/ 750/801 series as I have heard this comment alot... It is almost like th e angle of incidence of the wings is incorrect but there is no way to ch ange that and maintain edge distance on the wing spar to fuselage pick u p points. In cruise flight mine is what I consider nose up and should b e slower as it feels like it is trying to climb. I add about 2-4 degrees of flaps and the nose lowers and it looks better... but by doing that I ose 3-5 mph. Seems counterproductive but that is the facts in my case. Y MMV do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "ejessee" Subject: Zenith701801-List: nose-high flying Hello all, I was wondering how one might adjust a 701 to bring the nose down a litt le during straight and level flight. When I bought the plane, the build er suggested the rigging could be adjusted to bring it down some... I as sume at the sacrifice of speed. I believe he was going to bring both ai lerons down some. Is that the procedure? I think my 701 is flying more nose high than it did before I changed my 3 blade GSC prop for a 3 blade IVO. I dropped 3 lbs off the front and t he Weight and balance shows that the CG moved 6mm aft but is still well within spec. As always, any help is greatly appreciated. -------- Ernest Jessee N4931M Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340547#340547 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. 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