---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/23/11: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:57 AM - Re: nose-high flying (ejessee) 2. 08:09 AM - Re: 180 turn back to airport (sonar1@cox.net) 3. 11:08 AM - Re: 180 turn back to airport (ejessee) 4. 11:30 PM - Re: 180 turn back to airport (ProWash) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:35 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: nose-high flying From: "ejessee" As always, your advice is fantastic. Thanks to all of you. Chuck: What year of Kitplanes? 2011? -------- Ernest Jessee N4931M Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340682#340682 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:44 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: 180 turn back to airport From: "sonar1@cox.net" I read that article too, and emailed Barry that I could do a 180 in a Cessna 172 in less than 300 feet. Haven't tried it in the 701, but would guess it to be even quicker. The email exchange is below:............Fred Hi Fred, As I indicated in my article, there might be a variety of turnaround methods that work in different airplanes for different pilots. I could not, however, recommend many of these for the average general aviation pilot. It could easily prove to be counterproductive. Many thanks for taking the time to write. Best wishes, -- Barry At 11:16 AM 4/5/2011, you wrote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shearer, Zach Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 10:04 AM Subject: Fw: Letter to editor -----Original Message----- From: Fred Sanford [sonar1@cox.net] Subject: Letter to editor The "Unconventional Wisdom" article by Barry Schiff on returning to the field after engine failure was very good. I have long thought that "land straight ahead" was stressed too often. Not trying to preach to the experts, but I have practiced a different technique in a C-172. If you push forward to zero gravity, and use large control inputs while "falling", you can reverse direction without offset in about 200 feet! The descent keeps up the speed, and the controls are very effective at zero g. Not suggesting that this be taught, as it is a rather violent maneuver, but then so is an off field landing. Fred Sanford 1 Santa Cruz Santa Barbara, Ca. 93109 sonar1@cox.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340694#340694 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:08:13 AM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: 180 turn back to airport From: "ejessee" I too have practiced 180 turns from climb-out attitude. I can make the turn in -------- Ernest Jessee N4931M Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340714#340714 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:40 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: 180 turn back to airport From: "ProWash" It's True! I didn't shut the engine off. The opportunity to test this theory presented itself at about 1800 AGL. It glides noticeably better with the prop stopped. The quiet is very disturbing though. All ended well. Richard -------- R Craig North Central Arkansas N701LR CH701 SP ELB 30 HRS into Phase One testing Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340758#340758 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith701801-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith701801-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith701801-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith701801-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.