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1. 11:07 AM - Advanced Ultralight vs Amateur Built in Canada (Perry Delano)
2. 01:19 PM - Re: Advanced Ultralight vs Amateur Built in Canada (MacDonald Doug)
3. 03:51 PM - What happened with Can-Zac aviation? (mike53)
4. 04:26 PM - Re: What happened with Can-Zac aviation? (n801bh@netzero.com)
5. 07:37 PM - Re: What happened with Can-Zac aviation? (Jon Croke)
6. 07:44 PM - Re: What happened with Can-Zac aviation? (Jean-Paul Roy)
7. 07:51 PM - Re: What happened with Can-Zac aviation? (Robert Pelland)
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| Subject: | Advanced Ultralight vs Amateur Built in Canada |
I have a question for those canadian builders and flyers of 701's, What are
the pros and cons of registering a 701
as an advanced ultralight as opposed to Amateur Built. I have started with
the rudder and hz stabilizer partial kits
from Zenith and plan on finishing the plane buying the materials from
Zenith. If I am going to register it as an
AB I need to notify the ministry now.
I realize AU has to be built from factory supplied parts and cannot be
modified from the original design w/o the manufacturers premission. I have
started with the rudder and hz stabilizer partial kits from Zenith and plan
on finishing the plane buying the materials from Zenith.
The only modification I am considering, if it is a modification at all,
would be to put some fat Alaskan Bush Tires on it like Christopher Desmond
has on his and the roller blade wheel under the tail as he has done.
Any comments as to whether these would be a modification or not would be
appreciated.
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| Subject: | Re: Advanced Ultralight vs Amateur Built in Canada |
The major drawback to going Amateur Built is having to deal with the MDRA.
=C2- They =0Aare supposed to be non-profit but they sure charge enough fo
r the paperwork and =0Ainspections.=C2- Depending on your distance from y
our inspector, this will likely =0Aadd between $1000.00 and $2000.00 to the
cost to build.=C2- That being said, I went =0AAmateur Built with my 701
and would do so again.=C2- An AB plane is a real plane.=C2- =0AAn AULA
is, lets face it, an ultralight.=C2- The same two planes sitting for sale
=0Aside by side, the AB is going to sell first.=0A=0AAnother thing I don't
like about the AULA catagory is, for the most part, it is =0Aan orphan.=C2
- Since the US finally got going on LSA/SP, there have been very few =0Ad
evelopments in the AULA catagory.=C2- Eventually LSA/SP will arrive here
in Canada =0Aand I suspect that AULA will likely end up being folded into L
SA when that =0Ahappens.=0A=0AAs you mention, since you are the manufacture
r of and AB plane, you can do =0Apretty much whatever you like to it (withi
n reason).=C2- Since Zenair will be the =0Amanufacturer listed on the dat
aplate of an AULA, they are going to err on the =0Aside of caution with reg
ard to any modifications.=0A=0AI hope these ramblings have been of some hel
p.=C2- As I said, I went AB and don't =0Aregret it.=0A=0ADoug MacDonald
=0ACH-701, NW Ontario=0A=0ADo Not Archive=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________
__________=0AFrom: Perry Delano <pdelano@telus.net>=0ATo: zenith701801-list
@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, June 5, 2011 1:02:23 PM=0ASubject: Zenith701801
-List: Advanced Ultralight vs Amateur Built in Canada=0A=0A=0AI have a ques
tion for those canadian builders and flyers of 701=99s, What are the
=0Apros and cons of registering a 701=0Aas an advanced ultralight as oppose
d to Amateur Built. I have started with the =0Arudder and hz stabilizer par
tial kits=0Afrom Zenith and plan on finishing the plane buying the material
s from Zenith. If =0AI am going to register it as an=0AAB I need to notify
the ministry now.=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0AI realize AU has to be built from fac
tory supplied parts and cannot be modified =0Afrom the original design w/o
the manufacturers premission. I have =0A=0Astarted with the rudder and hz s
tabilizer partial kits from Zenith and plan on =0Afinishing the plane buyin
g the materials from Zenith.=0A=C2-=0AThe only modification I am consider
ing, if it is a modification at all, would be =0Ato put some fat Alaskan Bu
sh Tires on it like Christopher Desmond=0Ahas on his and the roller blade w
heel under the tail as he has done.=0AAny comments as to whether these woul
d be a modification or not would be =0Aappreciated.
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| Subject: | What happened with Can-Zac aviation? |
Can anyone tell me why Can-Zac is no longer the zenith distributor for Ontario,Canada?Wanted
to sign up for a workshop and was informed by zenith head office
in the U.S. that I will have to contact the new distributor in Midland Ontario,which
was fine until I called them and was informed that they were not planning
any workshops in the near future.
I will probably still place my order but was just curious what happened to Can-Zac
as I know they held numerous workshops throughout the year.
Thanks.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: What happened with Can-Zac aviation? |
That's a very good question.... Last year I was wanting to buy a spare f
irewall for the 801 series so I can fabricate some motor mounts for cust
omers... Roger @ Zenith is Mexico Mo. told me the complete 801 kit was b
eing produced up in Canada... I emailed Mark and got absolutely NO answe
r back.... Now I am wondering who is building the 801 kits ....
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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From: "mike53" <mtyit@start.ca>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: What happened with Can-Zac aviation?
Can anyone tell me why Can-Zac is no longer the zenith distributor for O
ntario,Canada?Wanted to sign up for a workshop and was informed by zenit
h head office in the U.S. that I will have to contact the new distributo
r in Midland Ontario,which was fine until I called them and was informed
that they were not planning any workshops in the near future.
I will probably still place my order but was just curious what happened
to Can-Zac as I know they held numerous workshops throughout the year.
Thanks.
Mike
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| Subject: | What happened with Can-Zac aviation? |
Last I heard recently was that Mark is doing fine and is very busy doing his
Zenith builder assist work at his hangar workshop. I understand he is no
longer the Canadian Zenith distributor.
He never manufactured parts for Zenith to the best of my knowledge, so
nothing has changed in that regard. The only thing I know that is different
is that you call the Midland facility for your Zenith parts orders instead
of calling Mark.
Is he hard to get ahold of? I think so...! I have heard he is REALLY busy!
Jon (a friend of Mark's)
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From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mike53
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 5:49 PM
Subject: Zenith701801-List: What happened with Can-Zac aviation?
Can anyone tell me why Can-Zac is no longer the zenith distributor for
Ontario,Canada?Wanted to sign up for a workshop and was informed by zenith
head office in the U.S. that I will have to contact the new distributor in
Midland Ontario,which was fine until I called them and was informed that
they were not planning any workshops in the near future.
I will probably still place my order but was just curious what happened to
Can-Zac as I know they held numerous workshops throughout the year.
Thanks.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: What happened with Can-Zac aviation? |
I just checked up Can-Zac web site and it's still up and running
http://www.can-zacaviation.com/
Jean-Paul
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Objet=C2-: Re: Zenith701801-List: What happened with Can-Zac aviation?
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That's a very good question.... Last year I was wanting to buy a spare fire
wall for the 801 series so I can fabricate some motor mounts for customers.
.. Roger @=C2-Zenith is Mexico Mo. told me the complete 801 kit was being
produced up in Canada... I emailed Mark and got absolutely NO answer back.
... Now I am wondering who is building the 801 kits ....
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "mike53" <mtyit@start.ca>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: What happened with Can-Zac aviation?
Can anyone tell me why Can-Zac is no longer the zenith distributor for Onta
rio,Canada?Wanted to sign up for a workshop and was informed by zenith head
office in the U.S. that I will have to contact the new distributor in Midl
and Ontario,which was fine until I called them and was informed that they w
ere not planning any workshops in the near future.
I will probably still place my order but was just curious what happened to
Can-Zac as I know they held numerous workshops throughout the year.
Thanks.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: What happened with Can-Zac aviation? |
Ben,
Mark ( Canzac ) never had anything to do with the 801. The kit and
parts have always been are manufactured, sold, and supplied from the
original Zenith plant at the Huronia Airport, in Midland Ontario. They
can be reached on their website at www.zenair.com or e-mailed at the
following zenair.com@gmail.com
You might want to speak to Mathieu Heintz who run the business, and his
phone number is 705 526-2871.
As for Mark answering his e-mails, or his phone for that matter, it
look's as though he has too much work to do so.
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: n801bh@netzero.com
To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: What happened with Can-Zac aviation?
That's a very good question.... Last year I was wanting to buy a spare
firewall for the 801 series so I can fabricate some motor mounts for
customers... Roger @ Zenith is Mexico Mo. told me the complete 801 kit
was being produced up in Canada... I emailed Mark and got absolutely NO
answer back.... Now I am wondering who is building the 801 kits ....
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "mike53" <mtyit@start.ca>
To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith701801-List: What happened with Can-Zac aviation?
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:49:19 -0700
Can anyone tell me why Can-Zac is no longer the zenith distributor for
Ontario,Canada?Wanted to sign up for a workshop and was informed by
zenith head office in the U.S. that I will have to contact the new
distributor in Midland Ontario,which was fine until I called them and
was informed that they were not planning any workshops in the near
future.
I will probably still place my order but was just curious what
happened to Can-Zac as I know they held numerous workshops throughout
the year.
Thanks.
Mike
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