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1. 01:48 PM - What is your short takeoff technique ( pavement ) (John Marzulli)
2. 02:06 PM - Re: What is your short takeoff technique ( pavement ) (MacDonald Doug)
3. 02:23 PM - "CLEAN & JERK" DURING MY FIRST TAKEOFF (=?iso-8859-1?B?RnJhbmNpc2NvIFVyc/phIENvY2tl?=)
4. 05:57 PM - Re: What is your short takeoff technique ( pavement ) (NYTerminat@aol.com)
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| Subject: | What is your short takeoff technique ( pavement ) |
So far I have been tried two separate techniques in getting short takeoffs.
I want to get input from those who have been flying 701s longer on what
their favored technique is.
The first way I tried in my own plane was the "Clean & Jerk" - Start with
neutral elevator and hold the nose until you reach at least 40MPH and then
pull back jerking the plane off the runway.
It seems to me this does not produce the shortest takeoffs, but does provide
excellent visibility down the nose and may be favorable when the runway is
narrow.
The second way I have tried in my plane is the "Back, then Relax". Start
with the still full back, then relax a bit as the nose wheel comes off to
pitch for VX airspeed.
My shortest takeoffs have been using this technique, but much more work is
required to keep the plane straight down the runway. It also seems to have a
higher risk of over rotation.
So, thoughts from the 701 veterans?
Thanks,
John Marzulli
http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
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| Subject: | Re: What is your short takeoff technique ( pavement |
)
John, I always use the back and relax method you mention.- If you are hav
ing a hard time keeping the plane straight while-using this method there
may be a- minor difference between your nose wheel neutral position and y
our rudder neutral position.- The offset-will- cause the nose to drif
t in one direction as you transition from-nose wheel-directional contro
l to rudder directional control.- I initially had this problem with my pl
ane and after a small tweak of the nose wheel steering rods, it is no longe
r an issue.=0A-=0ADoug MacDonald=0ACH-701 from scratch=0ANW Ontario, Cana
da=0A-=0ADo Not Archive=0A=0AFrom: John Marzulli <john.marzulli@gmail.com
>=0ATo: zenith701801-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, September 14, 20
11 3:45:42 PM=0ASubject: Zenith701801-List: What is your short takeoff tech
nique ( pavement )=0A=0A=0ASo far I have been tried two separate techniques
in getting short takeoffs. I want to get input from those who have been fl
ying 701s longer on what their favored technique is.=0A=0AThe first way I t
ried in my own plane was the "Clean & Jerk" - Start with neutral elevator a
nd hold the nose until you reach at least 40MPH and then pull back jerking
the plane off the runway.=0A=0AIt seems to me this does not produce the sho
rtest takeoffs, but does provide excellent visibility down the nose and may
be favorable when the runway is narrow.=0A=0A=0AThe second way I have trie
d in my plane is the "Back, then Relax". Start with the still full back, th
en relax a bit as the nose wheel comes off to pitch for VX airspeed.=0A=0AM
y shortest takeoffs have been using this technique, but much more work is r
equired to keep the plane straight down the runway. It also seems to have a
higher risk of over rotation.=0A=0A=0ASo, thoughts from the 701 veterans?
=0A=0A=0AThanks,=0A=0AJohn Marzulli=0A=0Ahttp://MarzulliPhoto.net/=0Ahttp:/
=
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| Subject: | "CLEAN & JERK" DURING MY FIRST TAKEOFF |
was not that good for me...
My check pilot hollered (not a good thing in any case) because I was slow i
n easing my 100-HP=2C 72" Warp Drive 701 off our paved runway=2C pitch set
at a too-high 14 degrees. I over-reacted and what ensued was two or three b
ad PIO's. Buy only my pride was hurt.
Francisco
"Terminator" CH701
Quito=2C Ecuador
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| Subject: | Re: What is your short takeoff technique ( pavement |
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John,
For me it is 1/2 flaps, holding stick back till the nosewheel gets light
then relax the stick and fly off.
Bob Spudis
CH701/912S
In a message dated 9/14/2011 4:49:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
john.marzulli@gmail.com writes:
So far I have been tried two separate techniques in getting short
takeoffs. I want to get input from those who have been flying 701s longer on what
their favored technique is.
The first way I tried in my own plane was the "Clean & Jerk" - Start with
neutral elevator and hold the nose until you reach at least 40MPH and then
pull back jerking the plane off the runway.
It seems to me this does not produce the shortest takeoffs, but does
provide excellent visibility down the nose and may be favorable when the runway
is narrow.
The second way I have tried in my plane is the "Back, then Relax". Start
with the still full back, then relax a bit as the nose wheel comes off to
pitch for VX airspeed.
My shortest takeoffs have been using this technique, but much more work is
required to keep the plane straight down the runway. It also seems to have
a higher risk of over rotation.
So, thoughts from the 701 veterans?
Thanks,
John Marzulli
_http://MarzulliPhoto.net/_ (http://marzulliphoto.net/)
_http://701Builder.blogspot.com/_ (http://701builder.blogspot.com/)
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