---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/31/11: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:33 PM - Grass\gavel field landing techniques (John Marzulli) 2. 09:33 PM - Re: Grass\gavel field landing techniques (Dan Wilde) 3. 11:23 PM - Re: Grass\gavel field landing techniques (John Marzulli) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:33:52 PM PST US Subject: Zenith701801-List: Grass\gavel field landing techniques From: John Marzulli Weather permitting I may do testing on TO\landing on our well groomed grass runway at AWO. Given the nature of a nosewheel + grass, I want to check to see what techiques are favored by 701 drivers for grass. For takeoff my guess is to keep the stick-back from the start like other grass\nosewheel procedures ( being careful not to over rotate ), but keep the flaps retracted to reduced pressure on the nosewheel. For landings it seems that a standard grass field approach with stick backpressure maintained would also be required, making sure my sink rate is low ( <100FPS ) and once again avoiding flaps to reduce the pressure on the nosewheel. Any pointers specific to the 701? Thanks, John Marzulli http://MarzulliPhoto.net/ http://701Builder.blogspot.com/ ( 30.6 hours down... ) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:33:48 PM PST US From: Dan Wilde Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Grass\gavel field landing techniques On 10/31/2011 2:30 PM, John Marzulli wrote: > > For takeoff my guess is to keep the stick-back from the start like > other grass\nosewheel procedures ( being careful not to over rotate ), > but keep the flaps retracted to reduced pressure on the nosewheel. > Be very careful about having the stick fully back on takeoff. The plane may jump rapidly off the ground and p-factor/torque will want to rotate you unless you put in lots of rudder. Dan Wilde ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Grass\gavel field landing techniques From: John Marzulli More so than on pavement? John Marzulli http://MarzulliPhoto.net/ http://701Builder.blogspot.com/ On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Dan Wilde wrote: > stolpilot.wilde@gmail.com> > > > On 10/31/2011 2:30 PM, John Marzulli wrote: > >> >> For takeoff my guess is to keep the stick-back from the start like other >> grass\nosewheel procedures ( being careful not to over rotate ), but keep >> the flaps retracted to reduced pressure on the nosewheel. >> >> Be very careful about having the stick fully back on takeoff. The plane > may jump rapidly off the ground and p-factor/torque will want to rotate you > unless you put in lots of rudder. > > Dan Wilde > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith701801-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith701801-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith701801-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith701801-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.