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There was an off-shore variant known as the Bingo 4T (Google will find several
references for you) that had an HKS and more than one Avid Flyer has had an installation
as well, so it would seem worthy of conversation at least My observation,
however, is that the move from the UL version to the SP version moved the
power discussion from the 60hp range to the 80-100hp range and I see that at
least one turbine powered CH701 exists hotrodding is alive and well
--------
-- Larry
Virginia, USA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362080#362080
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Morning Larry,=0AThis is the type of info I was hoping to get. Very helpful
. Thanks for your Time =0Aand effort.=0AHappy , safe flying.=0AFrank=0A=0A
=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: dcstrng <dcstrng1213@yahoo.c
om>=0ATo: zenith701801-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sat, December 31, 2011 6:
10:11 AM=0ASubject: Zenith701801-List: Re: New Member=0A=0A--> Zenith701801
-List message posted by: "dcstrng" <dcstrng1213@yahoo.com>=0A=0AThere was a
n off-shore variant known as the Bingo 4T (Google will find several =0Arefe
rences for you) that had an HKS and more than one Avid Flyer has had an =0A
installation as well, so it would seem worthy of conversation at least=C3
=A2=82=AC=C2 My =0Aobservation, however, is that the move from the UL
version to the SP version =0Amoved the power discussion from the 60hp rang
e to the 80-100hp range and I see =0Athat at least one turbine powered CH70
1 exists =C3=A2=82=AC=9C hotrodding is alive and =0Awell=C3=A2
=82=AC=C2=0A=0A--------=0A-- Larry=0AVirginia, USA=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead th
is topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36
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Hi John,
Thanks for your input. every bit helps when just starting out.
Happy & safe flying
Frank
________________________________
From: John Marzulli <john.marzulli@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, December 30, 2011 11:26:20 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
You would probably be disappointed with a 60HP engine on the current 701.
The 912ULS is by far and away the best option for the modern 701.
John Marzulli
http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:23 AM, frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
wrote:
Hi All ,
>I'm new to the list. I had some parts for a 701 ,so I ordered the rest of the
>parts that
>make up the firewall aft, and the finishing kits, from zenith they are supposed
>to be ready
>to pick up Feb. 2.
> I'm not a newcomer to aviation but the only zenith I've been around is when
I
>got a ride
>in the factory demo a couple of months ago. I fly a Kolb firestar 2 with a HKS
>700 engine.
>Wich brings me to my question. I know its a bit early , but when I think about
>what engine
>to use, I can't help but wonder if anyone has put a HKS on a 701? If any of you
>know of someone that has , please help me get in touch with them. How it turned
>out could save me a ton of money, time and effort.
> I am looking forward to getting to know all of you. The Kolb list is of great
>help to anyone who
>flys a Kolb. I'm sure the people on the Zenith list represent a large pool of
>knowledge and experience. I would welcome the chance to visit ----Email , Phone
>, or if close enough, in person with owners or builders. Happy Flying!!
>
>
> Frank Goodnight
> Fayetteville, Arkansas
>
>
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>="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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I agree with John--- you'll be disappointed with anything less than 80 hp.
Mine was "OK" with a 65hp "582" (2 stroke)--- but wouldn't do it again.
Fritz
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Marzulli" <john.marzulli@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
> You would probably be disappointed with a 60HP engine on the current 701.
>
> The 912ULS is by far and away the best option for the modern 701.
>
> John Marzulli
>
> http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
> http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:23 AM, frank goodnight
> <frank.goodnight@att.net>wrote:
>
>> Hi All ,
>> I'm new to the list. I had some parts for a 701 ,so I ordered the rest of
>> the parts that
>> make up the firewall aft, and the finishing kits, from zenith they are
>> supposed to be ready
>> to pick up Feb. 2.
>> I'm not a newcomer to aviation but the only zenith I've been around is
>> when I got a ride
>> in the factory demo a couple of months ago. I fly a Kolb firestar 2 with
>> a
>> HKS 700 engine.
>> Wich brings me to my question. I know its a bit early , but when I think
>> about what engine
>> to use, I can't help but wonder if anyone has put a HKS on a 701? If any
>> of you know of someone that has , please help me get in touch with them.
>> How it turned out could save me a ton of money, time and effort.
>> I am looking forward to getting to know all of you. The Kolb list is of
>> great help to anyone who
>> flys a Kolb. I'm sure the people on the Zenith list represent a large
>> pool
>> of knowledge and experience. I would welcome the chance to
>> visit ----Email
>> , Phone , or if close enough, in person with owners or builders. Happy
>> Flying!!
>>
>> Frank Goodnight
>> Fayetteville, Arkansas
>>
>> *
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>
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Hi Fritz,
Thanks for you thoughts. Was yours the 950 or the 1100 lb version?
Happy & safe flying.
Frank
________________________________
From: fritz <klondike@megalink.net>
Sent: Sat, December 31, 2011 7:06:48 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
I agree with John--- you'll be disappointed with anything less than 80 hp.
Mine was "OK" with a 65hp "582" (2 stroke)--- but wouldn't do it again.
Fritz
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Marzulli" <john.marzulli@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
> You would probably be disappointed with a 60HP engine on the current 701.
>
> The 912ULS is by far and away the best option for the modern 701.
>
> John Marzulli
>
> http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
> http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:23 AM, frank goodnight
><frank.goodnight@att.net>wrote:
>
>> Hi All ,
>> I'm new to the list. I had some parts for a 701 ,so I ordered the rest of
>> the parts that
>> make up the firewall aft, and the finishing kits, from zenith they are
>> supposed to be ready
>> to pick up Feb. 2.
>> I'm not a newcomer to aviation but the only zenith I've been around is
>> when I got a ride
>> in the factory demo a couple of months ago. I fly a Kolb firestar 2 with a
>> HKS 700 engine.
>> Wich brings me to my question. I know its a bit early , but when I think
>> about what engine
>> to use, I can't help but wonder if anyone has put a HKS on a 701? If any
>> of you know of someone that has , please help me get in touch with them.
>> How it turned out could save me a ton of money, time and effort.
>> I am looking forward to getting to know all of you. The Kolb list is of
>> great help to anyone who
>> flys a Kolb. I'm sure the people on the Zenith list represent a large pool
>> of knowledge and experience. I would welcome the chance to visit ----Email
>> , Phone , or if close enough, in person with owners or builders. Happy
>> Flying!!
>>
>> Frank Goodnight
>> Fayetteville, Arkansas
>>
>> *
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>
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I've gotta agree with John as well.- I have the 80hp Rotax in my 701 and
wish I had the 100.- The 80hp gets in the air nicely with moderate loads
and cool temps but when the desity altitude and load start to climb, the ex
tra oomph of the 100hp sure would be nice.- Additionally, if I were to go
on floats, I would be limited to solo flight with the 80 hp.=0A-=0ADoug
M=0ACH-701 from scratch=0ANW Ontario, Canada=0A-=0ADo Not Archive=0A =0A
=0A________________________________=0A From: fritz <klondike@megalink.net>
=0ATo: zenith701801-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, December 31, 2011
8:06:48 AM=0ASubject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member=0A =0A--> Zenith70
1801-List message posted by: "fritz" <klondike@megalink.net>=0A=0AI agree w
ith John--- you'll be disappointed with anything less than 80 hp.=0AMine wa
s "OK" with a 65hp "582" (2 stroke)--- but wouldn't do it again.=0AFritz=0A
=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- From: "John Marzulli" <john.marzulli@
gmail.com>=0ATo: <zenith701801-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Friday, December
30, 2011 12:26 PM=0ASubject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member=0A=0A=0A> Y
ou would probably be disappointed with a 60HP engine on the current 701.=0A
> =0A> The 912ULS is by far and away the best option for the modern 701.=0A
> =0A> John Marzulli=0A> =0A> http://MarzulliPhoto.net/=0A> http://701Build
er.blogspot.com/=0A> =0A> =0A> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:23 AM, frank goodn
ight <frank.goodnight@att.net>wrote:=0A> =0A>> Hi All ,=0A>> I'm new to the
list. I had some parts for a 701 ,so I ordered the rest of=0A>> the parts
that=0A>> make up the firewall aft, and the finishing kits, from zenith the
y are=0A>> supposed to be ready=0A>> to pick up Feb. 2.=0A>>- I'm not a
newcomer to aviation but the only zenith I've been around is=0A>> when I go
t a ride=0A>> in the factory demo a couple of months ago. I fly a Kolb fire
star 2 with a=0A>> HKS 700 engine.=0A>> Wich brings me to my question. I kn
ow its a bit early , but when I think=0A>> about what engine=0A>> to use, I
can't help but wonder if anyone has put- a HKS on a 701? If any=0A>> of
you know of someone that has , please help me get in touch with them.=0A>>
How it turned out could save me a ton of money, time and effort.=0A>>- I
am looking forward to getting to know all of you. The Kolb list is of=0A>>
great help to anyone who=0A>> flys a Kolb. I'm sure the people on the Zeni
th list represent a large pool=0A>> of knowledge and experience. I would we
lcome the chance to visit ----Email=0A>> , Phone , or if close enough, in p
erson with owners or builders. Happy=0A>> Flying!!=0A>> =0A>>- Frank Good
night=0A>>- Fayetteville, Arkansas=0A>> =0A>>- *=0A>> =0A>> *=0A>> =0A>
- - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
====
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Hi Doug,
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and experience.
Best wishes & safe flights.
Frank
________________________________
From: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 31, 2011 7:25:19 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
I've gotta agree with John as well. I have the 80hp Rotax in my 701 and wish I
had the 100. The 80hp gets in the air nicely with moderate loads and cool temps
but when the desity altitude and load start to climb, the extra oomph of the
100hp sure would be nice. Additionally, if I were to go on floats, I would be
limited to solo flight with the 80 hp.
Doug M
CH-701 from scratch
NW Ontario, Canada
Do Not Archive
From: fritz <klondike@megalink.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:06:48 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
I agree with John--- you'll be disappointed with anything less than 80 hp.
Mine was "OK" with a 65hp "582" (2 stroke)--- but wouldn't do it again.
Fritz
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Marzulli" <john.marzulli@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
> You would probably be disappointed with a 60HP engine on the current 701.
>
> The 912ULS is by far and away the best option for the modern 701.
>
> John Marzulli
>
> http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
> http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:23 AM, frank goodnight
><frank.goodnight@att.net>wrote:
>
>> Hi All ,
>> I'm new to the list. I had some parts for a 701 ,so I ordered the rest of
>> the parts that
>> make up the firewall aft, and the finishing kits, from zenith they are
>> supposed to be ready
>> to pick up Feb. 2.
>> I'm not a newcomer to aviation but the only zenith I've been around is
>> when I got a ride
>> in the factory demo a couple of months ago. I fly a Kolb firestar 2 with a
>> HKS 700 engine.
>> Wich brings me to my question. I know its a bit early , but when I think
>> about what engine
>> to use, I can't help but wonder if anyone has put a HKS on a 701? If any
>> of you know of someone that has , please help me get in touch with them.
>> How it turned out could save me a ton of money, time and effort.
>> I am looking forward to getting to know all of you. The Kolb list is of
>> great help to anyone who
>> flys a Kolb. I'm sure the people on the Zenith list represent a large pool
>> of knowledge and experience. I would welcome the chance to visit ----Email
>> , Phone , or if close enough, in person with owners or builders. Happy
>> Flying!!
>>
>> Frank Goodnight
>> Fayetteville, Arkansas
>>
>> * http://www.; -Matt DralNavigator?Zenith701801-List"
>>target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navsp; -->
>>
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It wasn't the 1100. About 950, don't remember exact number.
I scratch built. 1995-1996 It was one of the first with the new main
landing strut. And one of the last that the 582 was available from Zenair
( I bought the engine from them)
I believe the SP version was the generation after mine--- which is all the
more reason to go with the bigger engine.
My plane would "jump off the ground" but lacked climb performance.
I am not a Rotax fan--- but the 701 owners flying with the 4 stroke Rotax's
swear by them.
My opinion only.
Fritz
----- Original Message -----
From: "frank goodnight" <frank.goodnight@att.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
> Hi Fritz,
> Thanks for you thoughts. Was yours the 950 or the 1100 lb version?
> Happy & safe flying.
> Frank
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: fritz <klondike@megalink.net>
> To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sat, December 31, 2011 7:06:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
>
>
> I agree with John--- you'll be disappointed with anything less than 80 hp.
> Mine was "OK" with a 65hp "582" (2 stroke)--- but wouldn't do it again.
> Fritz
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Marzulli"
> <john.marzulli@gmail.com>
> To: <zenith701801-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 12:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
>
>
>> You would probably be disappointed with a 60HP engine on the current 701.
>>
>> The 912ULS is by far and away the best option for the modern 701.
>>
>> John Marzulli
>>
>> http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
>> http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:23 AM, frank goodnight
>><frank.goodnight@att.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All ,
>>> I'm new to the list. I had some parts for a 701 ,so I ordered the rest
>>> of
>>> the parts that
>>> make up the firewall aft, and the finishing kits, from zenith they are
>>> supposed to be ready
>>> to pick up Feb. 2.
>>> I'm not a newcomer to aviation but the only zenith I've been around is
>>> when I got a ride
>>> in the factory demo a couple of months ago. I fly a Kolb firestar 2 with
>>> a
>>> HKS 700 engine.
>>> Wich brings me to my question. I know its a bit early , but when I think
>>> about what engine
>>> to use, I can't help but wonder if anyone has put a HKS on a 701? If
>>> any
>>> of you know of someone that has , please help me get in touch with them.
>>> How it turned out could save me a ton of money, time and effort.
>>> I am looking forward to getting to know all of you. The Kolb list is
>>> of
>>> great help to anyone who
>>> flys a Kolb. I'm sure the people on the Zenith list represent a large
>>> pool
>>> of knowledge and experience. I would welcome the chance to
>>> visit ----Email
>>> , Phone , or if close enough, in person with owners or builders. Happy
>>> Flying!!
>>>
>>> Frank Goodnight
>>> Fayetteville, Arkansas
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Fritz ,
Thanks again.
Stay safe.
Frank
________________________________
From: fritz <klondike@megalink.net>
Sent: Sat, December 31, 2011 7:44:39 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
It wasn't the 1100. About 950, don't remember exact number.
I scratch built. 1995-1996 It was one of the first with the new main landing
strut. And one of the last that the 582 was available from Zenair ( I bought
the engine from them)
I believe the SP version was the generation after mine--- which is all the more
reason to go with the bigger engine.
My plane would "jump off the ground" but lacked climb performance.
I am not a Rotax fan--- but the 701 owners flying with the 4 stroke Rotax's
swear by them.
My opinion only.
Fritz
----- Original Message ----- From: "frank goodnight" <frank.goodnight@att.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
> Hi Fritz,
> Thanks for you thoughts. Was yours the 950 or the 1100 lb version?
> Happy & safe flying.
> Frank
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: fritz <klondike@megalink.net>
> To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sat, December 31, 2011 7:06:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
>
>
> I agree with John--- you'll be disappointed with anything less than 80 hp.
> Mine was "OK" with a 65hp "582" (2 stroke)--- but wouldn't do it again.
> Fritz
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Marzulli" <john.marzulli@gmail.com>
> To: <zenith701801-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 12:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: New Member
>
>
>> You would probably be disappointed with a 60HP engine on the current 701.
>>
>> The 912ULS is by far and away the best option for the modern 701.
>>
>> John Marzulli
>>
>> http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
>> http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:23 AM, frank goodnight
>> <frank.goodnight@att.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All ,
>>> I'm new to the list. I had some parts for a 701 ,so I ordered the rest of
>>> the parts that
>>> make up the firewall aft, and the finishing kits, from zenith they are
>>> supposed to be ready
>>> to pick up Feb. 2.
>>> I'm not a newcomer to aviation but the only zenith I've been around is
>>> when I got a ride
>>> in the factory demo a couple of months ago. I fly a Kolb firestar 2 with a
>>> HKS 700 engine.
>>> Wich brings me to my question. I know its a bit early , but when I think
>>> about what engine
>>> to use, I can't help but wonder if anyone has put a HKS on a 701? If any
>>> of you know of someone that has , please help me get in touch with them.
>>> How it turned out could save me a ton of money, time and effort.
>>> I am looking forward to getting to know all of you. The Kolb list is of
>>> great help to anyone who
>>> flys a Kolb. I'm sure the people on the Zenith list represent a large pool
>>> of knowledge and experience. I would welcome the chance to visit ----Email
>>> , Phone , or if close enough, in person with owners or builders. Happy
>>> Flying!!
>>>
>>> Frank Goodnight
>>> Fayetteville, Arkansas
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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